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Title: Common failures
Post by: AlasKen on March 19, 2021, 11:05:32 PM
I am putting together a few parts for my reels.  In a different post Fred mentioned that with the Penn 209 generally only the worm, pawl, and nylon idler gear fail or wear out.  I was wondering if there were similar observations with other Penns?  I have the 112H, 113H, 114H, 114, Longbeach 67, Jigmaster 500, peer#9, and 209M.  Also a couple of Shimano Charter Specials with open spool, and a Triton 100GT.  I have been known to impulse buy at garage sales.

If there were common points of failure I would try and be proactive on stocking parts.  Shipping to AK is expensive and slow.  Placing a larger order helps with shipping.  As a side note the Senators have many of the SS upgrades as well as cf drag washers.

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

Ken
Title: Re: Common failures
Post by: nelz on March 19, 2021, 11:56:23 PM
I've got the "impulse buy" too, for old Penns, lol.  ::)  Most common point of failure without doubt is those old leather drag washers. Also, rounded gear sleeves is pretty common.
Title: Re: Common failures
Post by: thorhammer on March 20, 2021, 12:11:01 AM
That may be about the only things might wear out. There's a reason pre-WWII Penn conventional are still out there catching fish, with very little actual functional design change except for spool and drag material. Maybe an eccentric spring, but I've never heard of it croaking. Possibly bearings but if they are maintained to begin with you'll have to fish a dang well lot more than most charters, even.
Title: Re: Common failures
Post by: AlasKen on March 20, 2021, 12:16:37 AM
I do find dog springs a point of failure, but only when servicing.
Title: Re: Common failures
Post by: Gfish on March 20, 2021, 12:26:32 AM
What Nelz said. Alan developed a fix for rounded gear sleeves. Where though?
Haven't used leather drag washers yet.
Bakelite side-plate swelling sometimes causes problems. Did something to a Sailfisher 130 and couldn't find the spool rub cause. Played with the posts/rings, the spool edge, even the stand! Solved by shimming the spool. Now the spool ain't centered between the frame rings which is a bit bothersome, but it's much less noisy and spins great.
Title: Re: Common failures
Post by: Brewcrafter on March 20, 2021, 12:28:08 AM
Yessir!  Don't ever buy "one" dog spring  :D.  Nice to have an selection, they are inexpensive and good to have around.  Same with the handle lock screw, Easily "escapes" and nice to have a couple of those and fit a lot of models. - john
Title: Re: Common failures
Post by: RowdyW on March 20, 2021, 02:23:55 AM
Gfish, I've run into this with a number of older graphite reels that have soaked up a lot of saltwater, oil, fish slime, & blood that the plates swell and also bow either in or out. The only cure is undamaged or new plates. Usually when stock spools are shifted to far right or left from their original position it's warped plates.
Title: Re: Common failures
Post by: Brewcrafter on March 20, 2021, 02:52:14 AM
Quote from: Gfish on March 20, 2021, 12:26:32 AM
What Nelz said. Alan developed a fix for rounded gear sleeves. Where though?
https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=32455.0