I posted this earlier in the general repair area but found this might get more attention.
I have a swedish made 7000 c3 that birdnests bad in mid cast.I have re-lubed spool bearings with stp,have the large brake blocks on,am using 4 shims on left side and 3 on right side but it still back lashes bad even with spool caps tightened down! I have 6 other 7000's and havent had problems like this before.
I am throwing 3-4oz on a 12' rod with a soft tip, please help for I have lost 600 yds. of good mono this week and thats in my back yard with no wind!!
Could it possibly be a bad pawl or worm gear? I ask this because at times when reeling I hear an unfamiliar noise at times
Congratulations,
You have a fantastic spinning reel. Now it is time to work on thumb control. If a spool is spinning faster than the cast is taking line out then you can slow the spool down with your thumb or throw more weight to get line to go out faster. If you want to slow down the spool you might try switching the bearing oil out for grease.
Ron
well thanks,but I assure you It's not thumb control, for I am 57 years young and have been casting since???? Well way before I can recall, even with thumb pressure it will back-lash,like i prevously stated I have many more 7000's and none do this.I'm not supposed to have to wear a glove to cast this reel, something is causing the spool to turn faster than the line can travel ( 20lb test with 4 oz. weight) It starts out fine, but half way through cast it happens!!! I'm lubing spool bearings with stp and that stuff is thicker than molasses!
Have you looked at the level wind? Maybe it is binding up when the cast starts to slow down.
Ron
worm gear and pawl seem to be fine (no binding when reeling), and is exceptionally clean but before I spool it back up I will take it down and look at pawl and worm gear with magnifying glass.Thank-you...any other ideas?
Take the level wnd off. You don't need it. Trust me
Would love too!!! was raised on a squider and 525 but because of thumb problen thats not an option, but it sure would be pretty,its a maroon 7000 c3
Have both the brake blocks and brake ring been contaminated with oil/grease? Any contamination can reduce the friction created by the brake blocks engaging with the brake ring via centrifugal force. I would give the brake blocks a solvent bath, then dip a q-tip into the same bath and give the inside of the brake ring a good clean. Also check to see if the brake blocks are sliding freely on the allocated pins. Install the brake blocks dry for best friction.
Regarding the spool tension caps; when buttoning down tight, it should eliminate any freespool capabilities the reel has (spool wont spin at all). If the tension caps are buttoned down tight on your reel, fishhawk, and it's still got good freespool, then your reel needs more shims, though, from what you've posted, if you've placed 4 shims in the left end cap and 3 in the right end cap, the added shims, combined with the buttoning down of the end caps, should surely be contacting the tip of the spools fixed axial eliminating freespool?
Personally I would be careful buttoning the end caps that tight as it can cause premature wear to the spool bearings when used to that extremity. The caps, when used correctly, should help center the spool first, then set the spool with very minimal lateral spool float (0.5mm) for best freespool. The times when you find yourself casting into a head-wind, taking out the minimal spool float should see casts being more easily controllable. ;)
Thanx! I'll check brakes n plate.I also hate tighting down spool caps! When spool caps are tightened spool does not spin freely just like its supposed to be.
stripped it down,cleaned bearings, relubed with reel x,Did notice brakes were lookin a little shabby (rounded on one end) and one didnt want to slide freely at end.I have several odds & ends brakes (blue,red & brown) Which ones are best for heavy weight? Went back to 3 shims on left side, 2 on right.Will let you know shortly. thanx fish a holic
You mentioned an unfamiliar noise,,when reeling in,??,, might be a good idea to check the spool bearings.. If they're not perfect,, they can be easily replaced..
Thanx snag, not a bearing noise, I only hear it like 1 out 5 casts ( I am slingin again!) I think its them wore out #### brakes!
Hey fishaholic I be slingin again! , 70-80 yds....no prob, barely even touch the spool! spool control knob on about 4.. Them brakes been slung around a few times! Are the plastic brakes better than the old fibre? Thanx again!
oops! still casts well,but the noise I hear is when spool cap is tightened to 5+.Pinion? It does sound like a chatter, gets harder to real too????
hi fishhawk
sounds like your worm gear is bent,or at least "stuttering"
to many shims and to tight, maybe?
take level wind off and try it as was suggested earlier.
its just a matter of elimination bit by bit
slow and easy as you go
gd luck
Just might be too many shims pushing spool shaft too far???
You need to "tune up" your level wind screws. You gotta kind of find the perfect balance for best distance and smoothness
tune up my level wind screws?????
thanx wallacewt, the problem now is when I tighten left side spool cap all the way down, reel practically locks up! When I loosen spool cap it works fine??? I have 1 shim on left side and 1 shim on right side.Any idea's???
The RS spool axle cap should be bottomed,, tight,, the LS has an O-Ring to provide tension on the cap so that it can be adjusted anywhere it needs to be for the weight of the terminal rig. All that with the Spool centered (shoulders exposed equally) in the frame..
Quote from: fishhawk on August 27, 2013, 03:46:44 AM
tune up my level wind screws?????
Balance them out in a sense, you want to have them equal on both sides, or as close as you can get it
right,I was just tightening down too far, all my 7000's get harder to turn, just never had to tighten one down that far and the only reason I did that was to compensate for the failure in the brake system I wasn't aware of.Go ahead youll get you'lls real tight and tell me if yours is the same
It's about the same as your saying, my penn 9s and 209s do the same thing
Quote from: Bunnlevel Sharker on August 28, 2013, 02:38:58 AM
Quote from: fishhawk on August 27, 2013, 03:46:44 AM
tune up my level wind screws?????
Balance them out in a sense, you want to have them equal on both sides, or as close as you can get it
Ah, no...the star side end cap boss has no 0-ring to hold any setting other than right down tight on the boss.
It's to be shimmed so the spool is on center in the frame, with cast adjustments taken up on the other side where the o-ring is, and the little wheel to be moved to 0 against the triangle on the end cap. The adjustment side normally has 1 or 2 shims, and the fixed side can have up to 4 shims. See Snagged2's post above.
Sidebar: Ensure that the end caps are on the correct side of the reel. The star side is shorter (not as deep) and no little triangle on it, while the other side is taller, with the little triangle on it. Many times a sport gets them switched with results less than desireable.