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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Shimano Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Haifisch on March 06, 2023, 09:22:23 PM

Title: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: Haifisch on March 06, 2023, 09:22:23 PM
Does anyone know what happens if you send a Shimano in, and the parts that it needs are obsolete? Seems like I heard they will send an equivalent reel, at nominal cost, to replace it? I am starting to see reels that I can't find parts for, that were not cheap reels to begin with. Looking for options when this question comes up. This is a Torium 20 with a broken clutch lever, and I haven't found a lever, new, used, or substitute for it. There is more to fix, but w/o the lever, haven't looked into the drag issue...
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: MarkT on March 06, 2023, 09:24:53 PM
They did the replacement thing with the original Corsairs.  I've never heard it with a Torium/Trinidad.
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: steelfish on March 06, 2023, 09:34:51 PM
never heard something like that on Shimano, I read somewhere that accurate reels offer ( I dont know if it has an expiration date) that kind of trade/deals but they dont give you the current model of the reel or sustitute but offer your 30% discount on the newer model  ???   :-X

with shimano its what it is and you see many gold trinidad reels in decent shape but no longer able to repair because of the obsolete model and lacking of replacement parts for them, nice economic move for the brand and the shimano fanboys dont seem to care about it and just buy the new model at Tag price
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: Haifisch on March 06, 2023, 09:42:33 PM
I'm reading now that the trinidad and torium are the same and maybe the lever will fit? Anyone know? I'm reluctant to spend $40 for the lever to find out...
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: Hamachi on March 06, 2023, 10:10:37 PM
Tekota cross references also on some websites, they are about $6-7. They look identical, but not sure, not ever needing one. The newer style reels may also work depending how much they actually changed the parts, might just be a different look.
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: handi2 on March 06, 2023, 10:10:47 PM
I just gave away all of my stuff including the Torium clutch levers
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: alantani on March 06, 2023, 10:11:36 PM
Quote from: Haifisch on March 06, 2023, 09:22:23 PMDoes anyone know what happens if you send a Shimano in, and the parts that it needs are obsolete? Seems like I heard they will send an equivalent reel, at nominal cost, to replace it? I am starting to see reels that I can't find parts for, that were not cheap reels to begin with. Looking for options when this question comes up. This is a Torium 20 with a broken clutch lever, and I haven't found a lever, new, used, or substitute for it. There is more to fix, but w/o the lever, haven't looked into the drag issue...

send me a pm with your address.  ;D
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: handi2 on March 06, 2023, 10:18:51 PM
Quote from: Haifisch on March 06, 2023, 09:22:23 PMDoes anyone know what happens if you send a Shimano in, and the parts that it needs are obsolete? Seems like I heard they will send an equivalent reel, at nominal cost, to replace it? I am starting to see reels that I can't find parts for, that were not cheap reels to begin with. Looking for options when this question comes up. This is a Torium 20 with a broken clutch lever, and I haven't found a lever, new, used, or substitute for it. There is more to fix, but w/o the lever, haven't looked into the drag issue...
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Quote from: Haifisch on March 06, 2023, 09:22:23 PMDoes anyone know what happens if you send a Shimano in, and the parts that it needs are obsolete? Seems like I heard they will send an equivalent reel, at nominal cost, to replace it? I am starting to see reels that I can't find parts for, that were not cheap reels to begin with. Looking for options when this question comes up. This is a Torium 20 with a broken clutch lever, and I haven't found a lever, new, used, or substitute for it. There is more to fix, but w/o the lever, haven't looked into the drag issue...

Did you open the reel?

The clutch lever is broken because of saltwater corrosion. The spool bearing sticking in the body. The pinion gear stuck on the spool shaft. Overall corrosion inside the body
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: Bryan Young on March 06, 2023, 10:53:53 PM
OMG Keith, I thought the reels I got were bad.  that is bad on a whole new level.
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: alantani on March 06, 2023, 11:00:06 PM
it probably looked gorgeous on the outside. :-\
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: ReelClean on March 06, 2023, 11:26:49 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 06, 2023, 11:00:06 PMit probably looked gorgeous on the outside. :-\
I call them mudguard reels:  shiny on top, s#*t underneath.  Sometimes they actually scrub up OK, even rusted up AR bearings can work after a cleanup.  A lifetime in the U/S cleaner and three bearings replaced, that was it!
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: Haifisch on March 06, 2023, 11:54:27 PM
I haven't opened the reel, but it shifts easily with a pliers. I suspect it was dropped.

I opened it, good looking reel...
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: alantani on March 07, 2023, 12:20:30 AM
bill, i found it.  it's going out in today's mail. 
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: steelfish on March 07, 2023, 12:24:42 AM
Quote from: alantani on March 06, 2023, 11:00:06 PMit probably looked gorgeous on the outside. :-\

I know persons like that  ::)
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: Cor on March 07, 2023, 02:05:47 AM
What a mess, hard to believe it will still work, though side plates don't look too corroded.   Perhaps fell in to the surf and rolled around in waves and was not rinsed.
 :(
Title: Re: Torium 20 gold repair
Post by: alantani on March 07, 2023, 04:23:01 AM
you may need an anchor bolt to remove the AR bearing.  be careful to support the assembly that holds the AR bearing.  it's really easy to bend the soft aluminum of the side plate. 

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