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Title: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: ChileRelleno on July 02, 2017, 05:09:42 AM
On/Off rainy AM, sunny PM and hotter than a liquored up Prom Date with something to lose.
July seemed to want to be sure everyone knew it was here and it's typical heat with it.
It was steaming hot today, especially after all the AM showers that passed through.

Nate and I got on the pier about 0545am and stopped in the shallows hoping to kill some Specks or Pomps.
Neither cooperated, but the Whiting were showing up with decent size, as were some nice Flounder.
I saw no Specks/Pomps landed while we were there till 1130am.
A few Blues, some Ladyfish and way too damned many bait thieving Pinfish and baby Hardheads.
I later heard that some slot Reds were killed in the shallows, but we were on the Octi the rest of the day.

The Draw and Octi apparently had a great morning of Spanish and Jacks.
When we got out there the Spanish were still firing off, and did so on/off throughout the day evening.
2-3 Kings caught in the AM, and then they shutdown till about 2pm when the breeze picked up.
Then the Kings were showing again here and there, probably 8+ killed, with several Shorties caught-n-tossed.

I watched two Kings feed on my live LYs, but no hookset.
But I managed to seal the deal on my third feed, and then again a fourth time.
Yep, two Kings for me, both nice eating sized Schoolies at 29"-30".

The BoBos also were around today, I saw at least 8 killed.
A few Tarpon rolling here and there, none hooked up.
Spadefish if you wanted them, no hubcaps, but Nate put five 10" or so Spades in the cooler.
Heard that a few Bull Reds were killed on the Octi in the AM.

More sharks than you could shake a stick at.
If you wanted your King, Spaniard or Bobo you'd better teach it how to water ski.
Well... Maybe not that bad, but it was entertaining at times.

Lots of life in the water, and the water actually looked really nice for awhile early afternoon.
Saw innumerable Cow rays, big Remoras, a big 8-10' Manta, small schools of Ballyhoo and quite a few sea turtles... And sharks, plenty of sharks.

As Nate and I wrapped pour day up and strolled off the pier at 730pm, the Draw was a veritable Chew Down in progress.
Sammich sized Spanish flying over the rails by the hundreds, every cast of a Bubble or Gotcha was a Spanish.
They were hitting Sabikis too, and the Sabiki Brigade was danged near having orgasms.
Along with the Spanish were incredible numbers of small Blues, Ladyfish and Hardtails.
Everybody there, which was quite a few, was having a great time.

We left tired and happy, with a cooler full of Kings, Spanish, Whiting and Spades.
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: Newell Nut on July 02, 2017, 11:08:57 AM
Sounds like you had a very interesting day. What bait and hook size do you use for the spades. I always see big schools of them and never see anybody catch one.
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: akfish on July 02, 2017, 12:05:44 PM
What's a Bobo?
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: conchydong on July 02, 2017, 12:23:13 PM
Quote from: akfish on July 02, 2017, 12:05:44 PM
What's a Bobo?

Bobo is a "local" name for a Little Tunny/ False Albacore what we generally refer to (incorrectly) as a Bonito in Florida and other Gulf States.


BTW, Nice going Chile!
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: ChileRelleno on July 02, 2017, 02:01:14 PM
Quote from: Newell Nut on July 02, 2017, 11:08:57 AM
Sounds like you had a very interesting day. What bait and hook size do you use for the spades. I always see big schools of them and never see anybody catch one.
Spades are very fun to catch, and they're great eating too, comparable to Flounder.
Think Bream rig on steroids when targeting them, cause these fish fight VERY hard.
They use their broad, flat bodies to generate a helluva lot of pull.
The larger dinner plate sized and bigger will snap lines, straighten/break hooks on lighter tackle

For these slabs you'll want 12# or heavier line.
A heavier wire hook, 2X or 4X, a #4 Kahle or Circle hook, I also like a #8 or #10 treble.
Just enough of a split shot to get the rig down to them.
Best bait is pieces of a cut up Cannonball jelly, they love to eat Jellies.
But small pieces of peeled shrimp, cut fish, and FishBites (Shrimp or SandFlea) works well too.
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: ChileRelleno on July 02, 2017, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: conchydong on July 02, 2017, 12:23:13 PM
Quote from: akfish on July 02, 2017, 12:05:44 PM
What's a Bobo?

Bobo is a "local" name for a Little Tunny/ False Albacore what we generally refer to (incorrectly) as a Bonito in Florida and other Gulf States.


BTW, Nice going Chile!
Correct.
But we do get actual Atlantic Bonito in the mix too, and they tagged as BoBo too.
Most people don't even know the differences between the two, especially confusing as they oft school together.
Bonito have straight lines lines running laterally and Tunny have squiggly worm marking and sometimes belly spots.

Bonito are good eating, Tunny not so much...  But some people swear Tunny can make acceptable sashimi or be seared.

Both species hit topwater lures with incredible gusto and fight like maniacs.
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: conchydong on July 02, 2017, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: ChileRelleno on July 02, 2017, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: conchydong on July 02, 2017, 12:23:13 PM
Quote from: akfish on July 02, 2017, 12:05:44 PM
What's a Bobo?

Bobo is a "local" name for a Little Tunny/ False Albacore what we generally refer to (incorrectly) as a Bonito in Florida and other Gulf States.


BTW, Nice going Chile!
Correct.
But we do get actual Atlantic Bonito in the mix too, and they tagged as BoBo too.
Most people don't even know the differences between the two especially confusing as they oft school together.
Bonito have straight lines lines running laterally and Tunny have squiggly worm marking and sometimes belly spots.

Bonito are good eating, Tunny not so much...  But some people swear Tunny can make acceptable sashimi or be seared.

Both species hit topwater lures with incredible gusto and fight like maniacs.

We occasionally catch Atlantic Bonito off of S. Florida and I think they are great. You forgot to mention that they have some nice teeth unlike the Tunnys.
As far as Tunnys go, my wife who is Filipina, cooks them with coconut milk, calabasa squash, long beans and hot peppers and believe it or not as much as I hate to admit it, it isn't bad. If I want to save them for bait, I have to hide them from her. ;D
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: handi2 on July 02, 2017, 03:27:19 PM
That sure reminds me of my childhood fishing off the Pensacola beach pier. We would sell the Bonita to some local Vietnamese who loved to eat them. I would clean out the restaurant at the foot of the pier for a hamburger and coke.

They sold Bonita hamburgers at the pier shack. They were good.

Mitchell 302 and a 300 for a bait reel.
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: ChileRelleno on July 02, 2017, 06:29:49 PM
Word is coming in that today is another awesome day of fishing on the GSP.

Yesterday's haul minus last night's eats.

(http://i.imgur.com/ewFmEd6.jpg)
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: Benni3 on July 02, 2017, 09:58:05 PM
Way to go,,,, ;D  ya!!!!!
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: mhc on July 04, 2017, 11:06:27 AM
Nice mixed bag - it's good to have a choice of what to cook first.
Mike
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 04, 2017, 05:33:48 PM
Good Work John. ;)
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: coastal_dan on July 05, 2017, 02:13:47 PM
That is a heckuva haul from a pier!  Nice going!  I'd like to try pier fishing at some point, we have a small pier in DE that I've flounder fished from before and did ok...too many people around who don't care to make it serious though.
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: Newell Nut on July 05, 2017, 09:11:08 PM
We are seeing huge schools of big spades every day and I have to try and rig up something for them. Is a strong 1/0 hook too big with 20# fluorocarbon?
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: ChileRelleno on July 05, 2017, 09:26:24 PM
Quote from: Newell Nut on July 05, 2017, 09:11:08 PM
We are seeing huge schools of big spades every day and I have to try and rig up something for them. Is a strong 1/0 hook too big with 20# fluorocarbon?
It should be a small hook enough for larger dinner plate to hubcap sized Spades.
Hook'em up, great fight and better eating.   ;)
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: Newell Nut on July 06, 2017, 01:14:33 AM
What I am seeing are wash tub size. Look like a good 8 lbs worth. So what size hook do you use that will not straighten out?
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: ChileRelleno on July 06, 2017, 01:38:53 AM
Quote from: Newell Nut on July 06, 2017, 01:14:33 AM
What I am seeing are wash tub size. Look like a good 8 lbs worth. So what size hook do you use that will not straighten out?
Those are big Spades... 
Gamakatsu 4X Octopus in 3/0, will NOT straighten out, and should be small enough...  Maybe.
#4 Eagle Claw Lazer Sharp 4X treble #4
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: Newell Nut on July 06, 2017, 01:49:24 AM
Thanks I may get out Friday morning and give it a try.
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: Benni3 on July 06, 2017, 03:23:30 AM
Quote from: ChileRelleno on July 06, 2017, 01:38:53 AM
Quote from: Newell Nut on July 06, 2017, 01:14:33 AM
What I am seeing are wash tub size. Look like a good 8 lbs worth. So what size hook do you use that will not straighten out?
Those are big Spades... 
Gamakatsu 4X Octopus in 3/0, will NOT straighten out, and should be small enough...  Maybe.
#4 Eagle Claw Lazer Sharp 4X treble #4
x2 gamakatsu $$$ but worth it  ;)
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: Newell Nut on July 06, 2017, 02:02:56 PM
Got the hooks and got clams for bait based on some internet research for baits so going after them tomorrow.
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: ChileRelleno on July 06, 2017, 02:50:57 PM
Quote from: Newell Nut on July 06, 2017, 02:02:56 PM
Got the hooks and got clams for bait based on some internet research for baits so going after them tomorrow.
Wish I could go with y'all, have fun and get bent!
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: Newell Nut on July 07, 2017, 08:27:53 PM
After seeing hundreds of big spades the past 3 trips, I did not see a single spade today. Bummer, so will try again Tuesday. Nature is mean sometimes.
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: biggiesmalls on July 08, 2017, 12:13:49 AM
Dwight, mother nature is a cruel mistress when she wants to be. I've taken dates fishing on a private pond twice now, guaranteed them that we would have a good time catching big bluegill on fly rods. I've caught 16+ ounce fish every time I've been out here. Well, both of those times we caught nothing and both times I haven't had a second date ;D
Get back out there and post it if you get anything.
Based on experience, a spadefish about 12" long will weigh just under a pound. Not sure how big of a wash tub you're talking about - but a spadefish of 8 pounds would be around 2 feet long, give or take.
This is based on the idea that so long as a fish keeps the same shape, a doubling in length would result in, roughly, an 8x increase in weight. So a 24" spadefish would weigh 7-8 lbs.
None of that matters much though - just go catch some of them!

Chile, awesome report. Makes me want to get out there and catch something! With any luck we'll be hitting up the reefs this weekend for some multi-species action.
I've caught one spadefish myself - incidentally while fishing for bait on a pier. I used to think sunfish fought the hardest pound-for-pound, but spadefish might take the cake. Anything with that broad shape is sure to give a hell of a fight though.
Do you still shark fish? Seen you on some older posts on Sharks on the Sand.

Tight lines,
Drew
Title: Re: Gulf State Pier, Gulf Shores, AL 07/01/17
Post by: ChileRelleno on July 08, 2017, 12:23:25 AM
Quote from: biggiesmalls on July 08, 2017, 12:13:49 AM
Dwight, mother nature is a cruel mistress when she wants to be. I've taken dates fishing on a private pond twice now, guaranteed them that we would have a good time catching big bluegill on fly rods. I've caught 16+ ounce fish every time I've been out here. Well, both of those times we caught nothing and both times I haven't had a second date ;D
Get back out there and post it if you get anything.
Based on experience, a spadefish about 12" long will weigh just under a pound. Not sure how big of a wash tub you're talking about - but a spadefish of 8 pounds would be around 2 feet long, give or take.
This is based on the idea that so long as a fish keeps the same shape, a doubling in length would result in, roughly, an 8x increase in weight. So a 24" spadefish would weigh 7-8 lbs.
None of that matters much though - just go catch some of them!

Chile, awesome report. Makes me want to get out there and catch something! With any luck we'll be hitting up the reefs this weekend for some multi-species action.
I've caught one spadefish myself - incidentally while fishing for bait on a pier. I used to think sunfish fought the hardest pound-for-pound, but spadefish might take the cake. Anything with that broad shape is sure to give a hell of a fight though.
Do you still shark fish? Seen you on some older posts on Sharks on the Sand.

Tight lines,
Drew
Hi Drew,
yeah still sharking just not talking about it any more.
Too much talk and pics is VERY BAD for the sport, both in negative publicity and the hordes of noobs who have no consideration for the beach/water, other people and most of all the sharks.
I'd probably post a big one, if another comes my way, but otherwise all I need is my personal satisfaction.