Hey guys, I bought a Jigmaster 500 on eBay for my own use. After replacing the drag stack and serving & reel-lube, works nice, except there is to much end play in the spool. I have the non handle side bering screw in all the way. I'm new to this stuff, so I looked at the schematic and I noticed a bering spring at that end of the reel. It was not there when I bought it and I noticed the play when it arrived. Is that my problem? See attachment. Steve
Well if you bought it used someone probably swiped the Spring which is used to put Tension on the Cap so it won't
back off easily and also may have swapped the cap itself as well with a shorter one .
Measure the cap length and post it for our reference if you can .
Also make sure the other cap on the Handle side is Tight.
The handle side bushing cap is bottom out, tight. Steve
That Cap should be @13mm or .5 in .
You have the wrong Cap I think .
A look at the non handle side plate and bering cap unscrew. ID purposes.
Un capped bering cap. ID purposes.
Here is the metric measurement on that bering cap.
If its the wrong bering cap, any ideas on how to get the right one? I look at mystic parts and there picture next to the part the number looks different than my side plate design. :-\ Steve
Ok,your Jiggy has a ball bearing in the end cap and the housing has spring tension on the plate so there would not be a spring necessarily. All of mine are just Bushings . You may have to remove the Bearing and shim it to get rid of the slack if it is minimal but if it is lot then something is amiss I am not seeing .
That looks like a 505. You need to shim the bearing. Put the shim behind the bearing (between the bearing and the cap.) Aluminum from a can works if you can cut it neat enough.
The Man
Your reel is a ball bearing jigmaster. It's not a 500(bushings), it's a 505. It may be issue with the spool shaft. I have a new aluminum 505 spool I'll send you (no charge). Just send me a pm with your full address and I'll get it in the mail.
Also (as Henry mentioned above), you're not missing a spring on your bearing cup. The 505 bearing cup doesn't have any spring in the cup. 505's don't normally need shims to remove sideplay. I sense something else is amiss
Ted
How about a pic of the Handle side ? You may have a Franken Reel with 500 parts and 505 side plate.
You have a 505 which is the high speed jigmaster so the schematic is the wrong one. A little play is ok so not sure how much you have. A shim under the bearings will help just try to get the spool centered. Don't put too much shim on the handle side or you can find a spool to pinion engagement issue. The bearings on the clicker side are normally peened into the cup and require a little dremel work to get them out without damage. If nobody close has the shims you can buy Newell bearing shims on the big auction site. A final thought is maybe they put a 500 spool into a 505 which would be loose in the reel and no amount of shimming will help. Give us a picture of the spool shafts for a look see.
Ok, More pics to come tomorrow morning. Thanks for all the imput, I really appreciate it. If nothing else, I'm going to learn something about Jigmasters. Steve
I agree with Ron. Shim your bearings. You may need to shim a little on both sides. Before you start slide the spool side-to-side to see where you need the shims.
-Mike
It could be that the side pate is stretched out. This can happen if the user keeps tightening the left side bearing to use it as an anti-backlash device.
Requested pictures for ID purposes. Thanks Steve
Look at that, a 500 on 1 side and a 505 on the other?
You need a different left side plate, at least you have a regular 500 spool. I'm sure someone on here can set you up quicker that I can.
The Man
This is what I thought it might be and refered to in my post above when you said the Handle side bearing was tight
Ya got one of Dr. Frankensteins Reels built from old Dead Penns.
You just need the Right(correct for Left ) side Reg. Jiggy plate and End cap /spring.
I MIGHT have one and will check . If not I am sure some one here has em .
Thanks for posting the extra pix so we could clear this up .
Here is a close up of the non handle, side plate where the bering cap screws into.
I would try to make a shim washer that goes between the click gear and bearing , or a tube to make to make a false shoulder on the shaft .
just to keep the Frankenstein theme ..
Something like this : a piece of fuel line and cut to size.
Quote from: smazzola on August 29, 2021, 02:15:41 PM
Here is a close up of the non handle, side plate where the bearing cap screws into.
You understand that you have the Wrong Sideplate for that Reel . Right ?
The Side plate you have pictured fits a Penn Jigmaster 505 Not 500.
So you will need either a Jig Master 505 Handle side Plate and switch all the guts out of yours to make the Left side you have work OR just get a Left Jigmaster 500 side plate which does not have the ball bearing and a new Bearing cap and spring or make some pieces like olmanjoe said to keep the Franken style going .
Your headplate is a jigmaster 500, and tailplate is jigmaster 505, your spool is a 500....none are compatible. You'll need a 505 headplate with 505 internals and you'll also need a 505 spool.....or just get a 500 tailplate and you'll be good to go
Ok, I will look for a 500 tail side plate with spring, it just makes sense to me, to keep the reel a 500. I first thought the spool shaft that engaged with with the 505 side bering was not a lap fit. Thank you all for your input I had no clue, since this was the first Jigmaster I have bought. I hope to put it to good use on the Oregon coast. Steve
If you don't mind the color difference these are all the pieces you need and I'll be happy to send them for free to you.
Thanks for the offering the red side plate for free, very nice of you. Last night I order a use side plate on eBay the seller said he would also send the 500 end cap bushing and spring. If he forgets the spring and cap, I might hit you up for the spring and cap. I will follow up with a end report once I get the part and reel back together. Thanks again! Steve
Maybe send the first "Frankenreel" seller a note about disclosure(if he didn't) and a possible bad rating as an eBay seller...
I'm 10 weeks in my recovery from rotator cuff surgery, any of you that have had this procedure knows it's a slow recovery. Any how, I'm was able to finally finish the Frankinstine eBay buy. Parts: New gear sleeve, new drags and steels with the extra smaller drag to make it to a 4 stack. Use 500 tail plate and 500 ring and put on an easy handle that I had. Thanks again, for steering me to the right parts to make this a bi color side plate reel. It works smooth!! Steve
Cool!
If you see a 500 series from a distance with 2-rings on the tail-plate and it's not a Franken-reel, it should be a 505/506. I like the 2-rings for strength purposes, but dislike ball bearings for maintenance purposes(too easy to get corroded). The HS-505/506 has spool shafts are slightly longer because they need to extend into the ball bearings. Also, the side-plates will be deeper. Also x 2, the gears 4:1 on the 500 reels are stronger looking than the smaller toothed 5:1 HS Jiggys.
Thanks for the information, I have learn a lot about Jigmasters, from everyone's input.