Can anyone provide information on this rod? It is 66" and has a serial number. All roller guides. looks very strong. What type of fishing would it be used for? Any idea of weight class? For trolling, chunking? I know little to nothing about offshore equipment. I was thinking to keep it in case I might one day go out on a tuna party boat trip, but have my doubts about whether this is the right rod. Thanks.
Hi Joe, I have a Triton Beast Master rod with runners & roller tip, that has 15 to 18Kg on it, your rod looks much stronger, plus full rollers, I would think it is a 24 kg rod, that should handle plenty of trawling, depending on the reel your going to use, & what you strike setting will be, on the reel, good luck, cheers Don.
Beast Masters are nice rods if you get the older ones built in Japan. On the one I own right above the stripper guide has the model number and line test range. Without at least a model number it will he hard to say exactly what you have there.
My rod is a BR 1607 rated 50-100, I use it for a 80 lb troller as well as live bait for bigger tuna
Thanks, guys. I will look for another label above the stripper guide.
nice finding Joe
"triton beastmaster" was the flagship name for rods and reels for shimano few years back, as my compa Mark just said, those were made in Japan so, expect good quality on the materials used.
I think its a good idea to keep it, uninstall all the rollers, bearings, etc on the guides to clean them and oild them to ensure they will work perfect when the time comes for a nice fish.
Thanks, Alex. It looks like a really powerful rod to me. It could definitely use some TLC. I don't know much about this class of tackle, so have lots of questions...
About the rollers. My conception is that rollers are primarily for trolling, to stand up to the constant pressure. Is that true? Is there any reason why full rollers would not be good for live bait or chunking? I doubt I'd be trolling.
This rod is short at 5'6". I understand that it gives good leverage against a strong fish. If I were to go out on a NJ party boat for tuna, I'd be fishing over a rail, and standing about four feet or so above the waterline. Does a rod this size work in that situation, or would a longer one be better?
Also I was wondering what reel to put on this. A Senator 6/0 or Daiwa Sealine 600H are the reels I had in mind. It came with a Sealine 400H (maybe that gives some indication of weight class) but I've heard that a 400 is light for bigger tuna.
I may ask Bill (our local Ohana tuna fisherman) to comment.
Joe
choice of rods is a function of fishing style to some degree. If you plan on using rail fishing technique then this is probably too short. Youd only have maybe 4 feet outboard of rail . If you plan on pump and wind style then it might be ok for length. The key is to have lots of lifting power in tip for either style. Cant really tell how it compares on that score.
Me im partial to rail style since im old goat and dont have arm strength like a young buck, so i stick with longer rod with big butt grip for rail work. Guides ? well rollers have caught a heck of a lot of giant fish but they must be maintained or you have a catastrophe waiting to happen. Disassembly and clean and lube after every trip. In addition if fish runs towards other end of boat then line sometimes touches frames and pow its over. Ceramic rings are less maintenance, withstand side play and last long time. Im still using my first ceramic ring guide fitted rod for bluefish and they are at least 20 years old.
A great 6/0 will do fine a crappy one wont but if you tangle with a big eye/sword you are gonna wish you had 9/0 or something gold or silver for a reel
My personal gear is 8 ft calstar, long foregrip, best ceramics i can find, rated at least 80 lb and 130 hollow core cortland braid(easier to work with) and i have an arsenal of gold and silver reels to choose from, depending on my mood, phase of moon and other irrelevant reasons.
If i were starting out id go with 9/0 with ss sleeve, at least 7-0 rod with ceramic rings. After many years of the head boat style tuna fishing i go with way more powerful gear then i need for the average fish, but i dont lose the exceptional fish because of gear inadequacies and there are a lot of exceptional fish out there--200 lb big eyes, 150 lb swords
Just my opinion for whatever its worth
bill
Appreciate it, Bill!
Yes good facts Bill, but as Joe was saying he may only use it, for one or two trips, so Joe may not wish to spend to much money, with an upgraded 114H or any reel 6/0 size that is upgraded to S steel main sleeve & steel main gear, with greased CF drag, would handle aprox 500 M of Braid, & still have room for a short top shot, maybe 30 M, but thats your call Joe, the larger rod would be good, depending if you wish to spend the exstra money, good luck, cheers Don.
Hey Joe as stated above that rod is too short for party boats. It is ideal for fishing all big game from an private boat with a fighting belt. Clean up the rollers and hang on to it. When you get an opportunity to use it I can send the Tank to use with that rod. The Tank has brought is lots of big fish and the last was a 300 lb halibut (estimated). Dominick
Appreciate the good advice, fellas.
Dominick, thanks for offering the Tank. I need to go visit my cousin in Kodiak; he's a hunting and fishing machine. ;D
Hi Joe,
I have (what appears to be) the same rod.
I use it for trolling, livies and deep drops.
It's rated 30/50 and I have it matched to its original partner, the BeastMaster 30/50.
The rod works flawlessly with the 30-40lb+ drag range I'm using.
It has really nice suppleness in the top third, but great low-down power too.
They're hen's teeth down here in NZ.
If you decide it's 'surplus to requirements', let me know! ;) ;D
All the best, Justin
Quote from: Decker on October 16, 2018, 05:45:09 PM
About the rollers. My conception is that rollers are primarily for trolling, to stand up to the constant pressure. Is that true? Is there any reason why full rollers would not be good for live bait or chunking? I doubt I'd be trolling.
compadre, nothing wrong with live bait or cut bait fishing with roller other than the weight compared to regular ceramic guides, I actually have a factory seeker 6ft 80lb AR rod that I use for dropper loop fishing on reefs and its really nice, in my mind its less friction on the line when dropping 20oz lead 600ft with roller guides than the friction on ceramic guides x tons of times during the day.
I dont know if apply to your kind of fishing but I only use that rod with reels with 80# braid or 60# mono, any lighter line could get into the sides of the rollers and the guide frame.
My rod is only 6' and I use it on party boats. Here in So Cal until the last few years you needed to go on party boats to reach tuna big enough where 80 lb test or heavier is needed. And, no I don't use a harness I'm a rail guy. Would a longer rod be better? Yes, but this is what I have...for now.