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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => General Spinning Reel Questions => Topic started by: Big Tim on September 07, 2014, 12:55:08 AM

Title: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Big Tim on September 07, 2014, 12:55:08 AM
Ok...After catching a #16 Ling Cod with a #7 Boccaccio on the teaser with an Okuma Cedros 65, I said to myself...Self, why is that you do not have a saltwater Spinning Reel??? Heck I even watched Alan fish with one  ;D ;D ;D
I am leaning towards the Penn Conflict 6000...I want to use it for bottom fish jigging,yellowtail, sea bass ect... Am I way off base?

Tim
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Three se7ens on September 07, 2014, 01:05:19 AM
They are great reels.  Metal body and rotor, which is more than the cedros can say.  All in all, it's a hard reel to beat at that price.  I also really like the fin nor Sportfisher and lethal series too.  Pretty comparable, but I'd give th fin nor a slight edge in drag capability. 
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Aiala on September 07, 2014, 01:09:23 AM
Quote from: Big Tim on September 07, 2014, 12:55:08 AM
Am I way off base?

Heck, no! Nothing wrong with a spinner; in fact, it can be a total blast... besides casting a country mile. One of my best battles ever was catching a 50-lb YFT on a Penn 750. Took me around the boat five times. Go for it!  :D

~A~
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Big Tim on September 07, 2014, 01:11:34 AM
Quote from: Three se7ens on September 07, 2014, 01:05:19 AM
They are great reels.  Metal body and rotor, which is more than the cedros can say.  All in all, it's a hard reel to beat at that price.  I also really like the fin nor Sportfisher and lethal series too.  Pretty comparable, but I'd give th fin nor a slight edge in drag capability. 

Been reading here and looking at those as well, but I have a chance to get the conflict new out of box (floor model) for under $100 & no tax or shipping...And the color matches my other black reels  ;D I'm sure thats important! I like the drag and line caps on the Penn and the Fin Nor too
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: johndtuttle on September 07, 2014, 02:33:54 PM
The idea is to use each type for what they do best and then switch to the other when you are getting tired to stay in the water or just for kicks and grins.

What I mean is that say, Conventional uses your right arm to crank and your left to hold the rod but Spinning uses your right to hold the rod and your left to crank. So for example, fishing jigs if you go back and forth between them you can keep fishing longer by resting the opposite muscle groups.

Conventional is great for casting heavy iron, live bait soaking and cranking power.

Spinning is great for casting light stuff in any direction of the wind, getting distance when needed with a live bait and for using poppers etc that require aggressive retrieves that can be tedious with conventionals due to having to lay the line.

I already have both types mixed in for breaking up the muscle groups being used to stay in the water more.

Gonna add to my quiver a Abu Revo Toro and Shimano Tranx (level wind conventionals for casting) so I can easily cast heavy straight braid and swimbaits for Calicos and surface Tuna.  ;)  Of course, spinners already excel at casting heavy braid but light lures.

Use what feels good! Conditions may determine that one or the other are ideal at a given moment but until you get to the very biggest game fishing spinners can do it too with no real trouble. :)
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Big Tim on September 07, 2014, 03:54:00 PM
Good words John...I am waiting on the delivery of my new Penn Conflict CFT6000 ...Under $100!!! I picked this reel because I feel it will give variety line choices and the ability to fish all of the types of fishing I do...Now a rod...More thinking ???
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: bluefish69 on September 07, 2014, 04:04:39 PM
What do you guys call big iron??  I just posted some NE big iron FS on another site.

Mike
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: johndtuttle on September 07, 2014, 05:44:07 PM
Quote from: bluefish69 on September 07, 2014, 04:04:39 PM
What do you guys call big iron??  I just posted some NE big iron FS on another site.

Mike

6-8oz+.

Spinning does it fine too. You just need finger protection when using braid or the lures get heavy.
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: bluefish69 on September 07, 2014, 11:38:46 PM
John

Big to me in the N.E. is 17 1/2oz - 21oz & 26oz in S.S.

Mike
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: johndtuttle on September 08, 2014, 12:33:28 AM
Quote from: bluefish69 on September 07, 2014, 11:38:46 PM
John

Big to me in the N.E. is 17 1/2oz - 21oz & 26oz in S.S.

Mike

yep, yep, this is casting stuff with long rods, not deep drop stuff :).
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: jonnou on September 08, 2014, 08:52:09 AM
Makes sense will have to practice my Lefty
Jon
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Ron Jones on September 08, 2014, 07:01:52 PM
I grew up with spinners, and really don't know why you would fish a bass lake with anything else. For me it breaks down to spinniers small fresh, conventional everything else. I have a big spinner, but a Jigmaster is just so much more fun.
Ron
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: MFB on September 08, 2014, 07:28:09 PM
Do not under estimate the power of the dark side.  ;D

Rgds

Mark
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Alto Mare on September 08, 2014, 11:02:53 PM
Quote from: MFB on September 08, 2014, 07:28:09 PM
Do not under estimate the power of the dark side.  ;D

Rgds

Mark
You got that right! ;)
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Big Tim on September 08, 2014, 11:07:28 PM
I can't wait for my new Penn Conflict 6000...Tracking says Wednesday...Went looking at rods today  ;D ;D ;D Does anyone have any input on the Quantum Boca PT rods?
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Big Tim on September 11, 2014, 08:51:11 PM
Now the journey to the Dark Side is complete  ;D ;D ;D I got to go Rod shoppin' now!!!

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Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: johndtuttle on September 11, 2014, 09:04:06 PM
Nice reels for the coin. Pretty much GTG out of the box to fish, just get some corrosion-x or other on the line roller and handle and go get it wet!

Oh, some line may be good :)
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Big Tim on September 20, 2014, 08:02:39 PM
OK the power of the dark side is GREAT! I walked outside to the street in front of my house to test my new rod and reel...I'm OK I said that Truck is 4 houses away (about 200 ft +) and I only have a 1oz. weight. Yup first cast straight at the Truck!!! No freakin' thumb brake on a Spinning Reel ... And she clears the truck  ;D ;D ;D Quickly Tim...Reel and go inside before you hurt something  ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: johndtuttle on September 20, 2014, 08:33:22 PM
Ok, Tim LOL...not gonna lie...

I went outside to give a flip with my Conflict with a 1oz weight too a few months back and should have known better  :o.

Seriously, a backhanded flip went about 50 yards and bounced off the neighbors fence, phew, no damage. :)

The combination of density of the weight, braid and total lack of wind resistance of the combo leads to a shocking result in distance.

Just imagine how far you can huck a 1oz Castmaster or Deadly Dick :D.

Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Aiala on September 20, 2014, 08:34:50 PM
Quote from: Big Tim on September 20, 2014, 08:02:39 PM
Quickly Tim...Reel and go inside before you hurt something  ;D

Yup... Sinker + 80 mph + windshield = Oh, <BLEEP!!!>  :D

~A~
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Big Tim on September 20, 2014, 08:45:20 PM
I need practice or I will be dangerous...My son watched it all and rolled in the street laughing  ;D ;D ;D and pointing  ;D ;D ;D And saying "You shouda seen the look on your face!"
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: MFB on September 20, 2014, 08:53:37 PM
I'm now at the stage of my life that before I do anything I think "how could this possibly end badly?" But this was not always so ;D

Rgds

Mark 
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Ron Jones on September 20, 2014, 09:02:34 PM
The Navy taught me to do that to, unfortunatly for them I quite often decide that the worst outcome is the best course of action! ;D
Ron
Title: Re: Leaning towards the dark side
Post by: Big Tim on September 20, 2014, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: MFB on September 20, 2014, 08:53:37 PM
I'm now at the stage of my life that before I do anything I think "how could this possibly end badly?" But this was not always so ;D

Rgds

Mark 

Mark, the only thing I was thinking as that 1oz. projectile was flying towards the rear window of my neighbors Chevy Avalanche... "Oh SH :o" And like You & John & everyone else...I should know better  ;D
Tim