Hello all, been lurking as a guest for awhile, time to join in. Have been collecting and repairing reels for forty years for my own use. Italian spinning reels, Orvis, Ted Williams, True Temper, now Eagle Claw(Ofmer). Also have a few Dam Quicks with the UL collection nearly fulfilled with yesterdays find a 1001 with a broken bail catch. It appears that a 265 catch could be used as a substitute but also hard to find. Perhaps I will fabricate a new one from brass sheet stock as the original aluminum appears to be the weak link with these later reels. Have the 110N, 265 Microlite, and now 1001. Someday 110 and 1000 if they made one.
An UL Quick user collection.
Hi, I'm fairly new here too.
Lots of good info here and the guys have the patience of a fisherman.
Welcome guys!
Steve
Welcome, the DAM Quick reels are problematic, terrible reels. Get maybe a season of use out of them maybe two. With extremely high maitanance.
Most here hate them.
That's the truth of it at least until I find the two I'm looking for
Welcome, anglers, from Minnesota.
Frank
hey, I know that red thingamajig on the fore grip
1st one I've seen in use, aside from my own
works better, if its closer to the spool
Hi.
Welcome aboard, W8Lon —
Yes, there is a 110, as well as a 1000.
I, also, enjoy most Microlite or small spinners. And the DQ's are some of my favorites.
Am not sure what part you refer to as the bail catch — but if you could clarify, I might have a couple of DQ parts lying around somewhere that I could help you with.
Nice selection of Micro's.
Welcome aboard!
Best,
Fred
Fred, the weak link with these reels appears to be in the center of this photo. I could and should fabricate a brass replacement as the grain structure in bent aluminum makes it weak. Brass may however require a rebalance if the rotor due to weight difference. That would be great if you have one in stock as I really like the size!
Welcome from salem va ;D
Quote from: W8LON on August 06, 2018, 08:46:24 PM
Fred, the weak link with these reels appears to be in the center of this photo. I could and should fabricate a brass replacement as the grain structure in bent aluminum makes it weak. Brass may however require a rebalance if the rotor due to weight difference. That would be great if you have one in stock as I really like the size!
Must be referring to the bail arm.
Frank
Quote from: philaroman on August 06, 2018, 07:48:39 AM
hey, I know that red thingamajig on the fore grip
1st one I've seen in use, aside from my own
works better, if its closer to the spool
I see the red thingamajig; what is it?
Frank
Zodiac Mk 1 Futura inflateable with aluminum floor or on the thrift store rod? Well on the rod they had what appears to be a downrigger release of sorts for either trolling Walleye's or Pier fishing. I always preferred a thick rubber band myself, just a loop of line under the band.
Have the bail and line roller, just the catch was broken. There may just be a more technical name for it enlighten at will.
Quote from: happyhooker on August 07, 2018, 12:05:46 AM
Quote from: philaroman on August 06, 2018, 07:48:39 AM
hey, I know that red thingamajig on the fore grip
1st one I've seen in use, aside from my own
works better, if its closer to the spool
I see the red thingamajig; what is it?
Frank
poor-man's baitrunner -- just a tiny plastic vise w/ tension screw & zip-tie
Quote from: W8LON on August 07, 2018, 12:19:52 AM
Have the bail and line roller, just the catch was broken. There may just be a more technical name for it enlighten at will.
It is commonly known, in the US anyway, as the bail arm.
Had the day off with Dr appointments in morning, what to day with the afternoon? Make a bail arm! Hardware store had .070 brass stock same as original broken aluminum arm. Laid out on piece of type paper and glued to brass stock then rough cut with , cmount jig saw. Hand filed to fit then bent in machinist vice. Reel is the smoothest UL in the collection of Quicks and haven't even tore it down to give it a proper lube job yet. It never had much use as timing of bail was off allowing bail arm to hit handle every sixth crank which likely caused failure.
Ready for Brook Trout fishing for the weekend!
WOW! Nice job making that piece, it looks great!
If the bail arm hit the crank handle it had nothing to do with timing. Either the bail arm or bail was bent a little, or the crank arm has a slight bend. It doesn't take much of a bend for them to hit each other, they were designed to have very little clearance.
Thank you, as suspected the difference in weight of brass vs aluminum creates a slight imbalance. May just play with a few small lead pellets on opposite side of bail, noticeable with the 5:1 gear ratio. Actually cleaned the stock grease from gears and replaced with Lubriplate AA grease, smooth as butter! Who needs all those fancy bearings...
Hi. I almost used DAM Quick as UN too. Great reels. Had a 110, not so good, then got a 110n, a much better real. Also have a big reel for surf, a 550n. Robust and reliable.
Excellent craftsmanship, Lon!
Best,
Fred
Timing issue as mentioned earlier requires just the right amount of compound bend to clear bail and bail arm(line roller). This only occurs due to what I believe by count is close tolerances and 5:1 gear ratio. If chosen gear ratio of design had been 5.3:1 or 4.7:1 by adding or subtracting a tooth on main or pinion alignment would be less of an issue. Every fifth bail flip can create this issue depicted in enclosed pics. Everything has been attended to with a little more filing near/at line roller and reforming of bail wire at least till that fifth flip. Thoughts or just me, simple fix is antireverse flip and back wind to flip.
It only required around 4hrs of hand filing and 2hrs of fitting to make the brass part, good thing I work cheap!
Quote from: W8LON on August 11, 2018, 12:36:03 AM
Timing issue as mentioned earlier requires just the right amount of compound bend to clear bail and bail arm(line roller). This only occurs due to what I believe by count is close tolerances and 5:1 gear ratio. If chosen gear ratio of design had been 5.3:1 or 4.7:1 by adding or subtracting a tooth on main or pinion alignment would be less of an issue. Every fifth bail flip can create this issue depicted in enclosed pics. Everything has been attended to with a little more filing near/at line roller and reforming of bail wire at least till that fifth flip. Thoughts or just me, simple fix is antireverse flip and back wind to flip.
It only required around 4hrs of hand filing and 2hrs of fitting to make the brass part, good thing I work cheap!
Your bail arm is oversize and also enlarges/widens the bend/loop in the bail. Below is my unused 1001 showing the shape of an original bail arm and clearances of the bail to the handle in closed and open bail positions. The last photo is of the open bail just before it snaps shut. There should be approximately 3/16 inch clearance between the corner of the bail arm and the crank arm at that, the closest, point.
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The brass bail arm looks like it is bent. Shouldn't the line roller be square to the spool when the bail is closed??
-steve
Thank you, Tom, I think that a piece of the bail arm may be missing from my original. I fit the pieces together best I could while laying out my pattern. There was a rub mark at same point for I'm previous owner likely a stepped on bent bail wire then as well. Your pictures are very helpfull will fish it till you be long cold winter arrives.
Thanks for the help guys! The beauty of brass, straighten out and reform. Tricky to get right but got it..
Now on to an Italian, well used in a saltwater environment. Instant antireverse without one way bearings.
Nice little Ofmer!
Best,
Fred
I see Ofmer is still in business, likely made in the Oreint now. Much prefer the ECO...
That is a nice job on the custom bail arm, WBLON. Yeah, it took some time, but you got it. I need to make one for a Shakespeare I have, and your work encourages me. Thanks for the post.
Also, welcome to MitchelGarcia, from Minnesota, as I see his first post has been made & a topic found of interest!
Frank