Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: steelfish on February 24, 2024, 01:23:09 AM

Title: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: steelfish on February 24, 2024, 01:23:09 AM
well, Its my time to built the bigger bro of my T4N1 reel, the big old 114h XN, I couldnt have the kit when Randy offered years ago but lucky me was on the time and place to grab the one my compadre Gregg put on sale some weeks ago.

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I have a donor 114h reel which is missing the spool and half frame that I never cared to build it back until getting that tiburon XN kit recently, then got some SS parts and the drag upgrade pack from Jason as this one https://alantani.com/index.php/topic,37574.0.html

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the rings that came on the donor reel were to ugly with some corrosion, so I sanded them and painted them bright red with 3 final coats of spray urethane, pretty sure it wont hold but even when they got scratched and missing spots of paint will look 3x better than how they were before  ^-^ and I can always take them out and install the shiny ones that Jason sent me along the SS parts.


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I have two brass dogs and used them to help me to cut the sideplate to adapt a second dog, but I will order some SS 114 dogs from mystic in few days, I liked the sound of non-syncro dogs but still dont know if I will installed syncro or non-syncro dogs when finally got the SS dogs.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/38/3592-240224005815-38651227.jpeg)

the think I need to order before build the reel and I havent found where to get it is the Eccentric Jack, the one that come with the donor reel has the "legs" just bent but Im looking for the reinforced Jack, on Mystic parts the part 11-114 shows a picture of the old style jack not the reinforced one, I dont know if thats the one they send or the reinforced one and just never updated that picture

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this an old post from Sal where he recommend to use the reinforced Jack with beefer tabs
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so, still missing to finish the reel although I have the stock parts to build it but Im not in a hurry.

- 2 SS dogs
- Reinforced Eccentric Jack
- take the 80# braid out and install 100# braid on it, its better here for abrasion purposes to use heavy braid line
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: Swami805 on February 24, 2024, 01:38:16 AM
Looking good Alex!!
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on February 24, 2024, 02:13:23 AM
Those red rings are unusual looking. But it's kinda cool I like it. Happy to have contributed.
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: steelfish on February 24, 2024, 02:29:08 AM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on February 24, 2024, 02:13:23 AMThose red rings are unusual looking. But it's kinda cool I like it. Happy to have contributed.

thanks to you amigo

agree on the rings, I might do something similar to my 113hXN reel  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: Gfish on February 24, 2024, 07:40:15 AM
The T60XN lives on! As the "Red Grouper"... Nice work Alex, I like that red ring look.
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: Hardy Boy on February 24, 2024, 03:29:04 PM
Looks great. I like mine. I just need to fish it more.

Todd
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: Crab Pot on March 14, 2024, 03:35:03 AM
Nice build Alejandro.

I like the rings as well.

Do you have any places where you could get those anodized near you?

If so please let me know, anodizing/chrome plating shops here in the Peoples Republic are closing left and right. I use to use a guy in Sacramento but he pulled the plug a few years ago and moved to the Free State of Nevada.

Thanks,

Steve
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: ReelFishingProblems on March 14, 2024, 11:13:58 AM
Looks good! Can't wait to get the post operation report
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: jurelometer on March 14, 2024, 01:15:47 PM
Quote from: Crab Pot on March 14, 2024, 03:35:03 AMNice build Alejandro.

I like the rings as well.

Do you have any places where you could get those anodized near you?

If so please let me know, anodizing/chrome plating shops here in the Peoples Republic are closing left and right. I use to use a guy in Sacramento but he pulled the plug a few years ago and moved to the Free State of Nevada.

Thanks,

Steve

The Penn rings are brass.  They cannot be anodized. Powder coating is the preferred method if you want colors.  You usually need to blast off all the old chrome first.

I have  done a bit for myself and for a few other members that spoke kindly of my home state of  California  8) .  Not too tricky, but does require some equipment.  Powder coating services are usually not too hard to find here, as the process doesn't involve toxic chemicals.

-J
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: alantani on March 14, 2024, 05:00:40 PM
beautiful work, gentlemen!
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: sabaman1 on March 14, 2024, 05:37:15 PM
Awesome build amigo! That will be a hit amongst all your fellow pangueros down in Baja.
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: Crab Pot on March 14, 2024, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: jurelometer on March 14, 2024, 01:15:47 PMThe Penn rings are brass.  They cannot be anodized. Powder coating is the preferred method if you want colors.  You usually need to blast off all the old chrome first.

I have  done a bit for myself and for a few other members that spoke kindly of my home state of  California  8) .

Jurelometer,

Nice build as well, I prefer black sided Penn's over red but I'm not that picky.

Lesson for the day: brass cannot be anodized. There is a powder coater I use in Rancho Cordova, I'll hit him up in the future.

For the record: I Love California's recreational activities and weather, been here for 45+ years!

I'll leave it at that.  :d

What city do you live in?

Thanks,

Steve
 
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: Gfish on March 18, 2024, 04:42:47 AM
"Kin-folks said Californiee is the place you outta be, so they loaded-up the car and moved to Berkley..." Actually Hayward, where I was borne, but it didn't rhyme. My Parents moved there in '54 from Minnesota.

It's hard to beat the geographical/ecosystem variety of Calie. I haven't been everywhere, but I've never seen it anywhere else. I also like people variety, and Calie has it. But there's too doggon many of them! Also, the various types don't blend together as well as they could, like here.

It's tax season and I'm enjoying the thought that Hawaii dosen't take 5% of many types of income as the"PRC" does. I'll definitely benefit from that. And that's another negative, it costs so much for the middle and lower class to live there comfortably. Housing and many other durable and non-durables are expensive here, electricity is crazy expensive. I'd love to see a cost/benifit  comparison done, Hawaii vs Calie, maybe it's even more expensive here?
 And I thought we were relatively fire disaster safe, until the fire in Lahaina. Then there's them hurricanes and possible tsunami's. These kinda events have a real negative impact on local economies.
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: steelfish on March 19, 2024, 03:53:14 PM
Quote from: Crab Pot on March 14, 2024, 03:35:03 AMNice build Alejandro.
I like the rings as well.

Do you have any places where you could get those anodized near you?

If so please let me know, anodizing/chrome plating shops here in the Peoples Republic are closing left and right. I use to use a guy in Sacramento but he pulled the plug a few years ago and moved to the Free State of Nevada.
Thanks,
Steve

Steve, well I dont know any places that can do the anodizing or chrome plating, I did painted the rings as experiment and I liked but I will use the rings and I will think on powder coating them when I saw them with lots of scratches and with tons of spots missing paint

@Sabaman1, thanks bud

@Alan tani, thanks Jefe
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: MACflyer on May 06, 2024, 04:20:16 PM
WOW! That is one gorgeous red reel. Hope to see the finished product soon. Any luck finding a reinforced eccentric jack?
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: CooldadE on May 06, 2024, 10:46:10 PM
I have yet to fish my T60XN. Mine is silver frame, black spool and red side plates... I also have the 3/0 and 4/0 XN reels in same colors... I've fished both of those and they preformed as you would expect. Caught my first Yellow tail on the 4/0 XN... a 25# fish.


Cool
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: steelfish on May 07, 2024, 12:41:57 AM
Quote from: MACflyer on May 06, 2024, 04:20:16 PMWOW! That is one gorgeous red reel. Hope to see the finished product soon. Any luck finding a reinforced eccentric jack?

thanks amigo, I found one used but in great shape a reinforced eccentric jack on my miscellaneous parts box while looking for some screws of different sizes for another reel, the 114h eccentric jack was dirty but it cleaned up really good and I used the buffer wheel a bit with the dremel to give it some shine

Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: Cor on May 07, 2024, 06:26:21 AM
Great looking reel, enjoy the project!
I also prefer the black/red side plates/rings.

Hope you don't ever intend to take it on a Panga :(
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: steelfish on May 07, 2024, 05:07:07 PM
Quote from: Cor on May 07, 2024, 06:26:21 AMHope you don't ever intend to take it on a Panga :(

why? 

nothing wrong with the Pangas to get to the fish
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: Cor on May 15, 2024, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: steelfish on May 07, 2024, 05:07:07 PM
Quote from: Cor on May 07, 2024, 06:26:21 AMHope you don't ever intend to take it on a Panga :(

why? 

nothing wrong with the Pangas to get to the fish
Well if you look at my tackle that I take to sea on similar size boats, the reels are scratched and dinged.   The rods are repaired from someone sitting or falling on top of them or high sticking.   Small boat fishing here is fairly rough stuff.    Maybe you fish in a bit more protected waters?
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: steelfish on May 15, 2024, 04:10:50 PM
Quote from: Cor on May 15, 2024, 11:57:06 AMWell if you look at my tackle that I take to sea on similar size boats, the reels are scratched and dinged.   The rods are repaired from someone sitting or falling on top of them or high sticking.   Small boat fishing here is fairly rough stuff.    Maybe you fish in a bit more protected waters?

same deal here, panga boats are rough with fishing gear, sometimes they dont have enough rod holders so your expensive fishing rod and reel are there jumping and bumping against each other or the panga rails, but it what it is, after all fishing reels are nothing but weapons to get the fish, right?

I must admit that some old and unique reels deserve to spend their time on the shelf but this one 114h dont belong to the shelf  ^-^
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on May 15, 2024, 04:38:51 PM
Quote from: steelfish on May 15, 2024, 04:10:50 PMafter all fishing reels are nothing but weapons to get the fish, right?
No sir. The reel is merely an instrument.

I am the weapon.
 8)
Title: Re: 114h T60XN the Red Grouper
Post by: Crab Pot on May 15, 2024, 11:26:21 PM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on May 15, 2024, 04:38:51 PMNo sir. The reel is merely an instrument.

I am the weapon.
 8)

I like that Jason!

May, ok I will, steal it.