The anti-reverse on my reel is acting up lately. I checked the transfer lever plate and seems ok.
I was thinking about using this reel without the anti-reverse (disable) but I don't even know if I could.
Regards
I'm not sure if this is the answer your looking for but i am running my 750ss with the transfer lever, basically makes the upper switch control one dog and the lower switch control the other. If you can give details on what the antireverse is doing there is probably someone here that could tell you how to repair it properly so you don't need to disable anything.
Thanks. Sorry I should've be more specific about the problem. The reel is moving both ways. Sometimes it engages fine, and other times keeps moving back and forth without locking.
If it engages at times its your silent dog, the one with fins.
Before you purchase a replacement, you might want to give these parts a try:
http://motivefab.com/products-page/pennreels
Sal
I'll try them Sal. They look more heavy duty
Funny because it only started happening when I opened up the reel to lube. The top part (under the rotor) did not have any lube and I applied a thin coat of grease on all the screws and springs.
You know, on that particular reel it could be a few other things, as the dog with the spring and the upper and lower eccentric. Your best bet is to open it up and take a look inside.
Will do. Thanks Sal
Could be as simple as when you put it back together the arms on the dogs got spread open slightly more than they should have, i get a lot of silent arms that just need those arms squeezed back tight to the ratchet.
Marcos,
Just a guess, but I bet its the grease you put on the dogs under the rotor. Grease will cause trouble there.
Yes it could be the grease. I did not take anything apart, just some strokes with a small brush with grease. All looked great at the time. I should have left alone. I'll look all the parts again with a magnifying glass and see if something moved. I will also remove the grease carefully with a q-tip and simple green and just leave the plate greased.
Yes, too much grease would cause problems with the dog, but usually not on that reel, only on the smaller reels that have one dog with fins, your upper dog should still be working. Silly question, holding the reel in its position, do you have the upper eccentric lever to the right and the lower lever to the left?
Yes Sal, that's how its positioned.
Here you go if needed. If it were mine to use I would rig it so the anti-reverse is always on and can't be turned to free.
I took all the transfer bars off on my reels. I never have needed to disengage both of them yet. ;) I have accidentally bumped the reel and had the transfer bar disengage the dogs by mistake. Sometimes I will just use one dog if the noise bothers someone but I still can engage the other one if needed. JMO Bob
Ok, I checked everything and all seems ok with no banding parts. I did removed the coat of grease from the springs, silent dog, the top of the upper centric using the Q-tip with alcohol and it's working fine. Now, those parts are not protect from corrosion anymore.
If it happens again I'll get the conversion parts as Sal mentioned or I will rig the anti-reverse to be always on.
One thing I noticed is that the silent dog (004A750) seems a little too flimsy (weak) for such big reel.
Thanks for all the help
I'm glad you got it to work, but it still seems odd to me. Having the upper dog on the spring, that reel should have always made contact with the ratchet. :-\. If it was a 550ss or smaller, that would have made sense, those have one dog with fins and the grease does make them slip.
When you checked the dogs, did you pull them off? If you take a look at my post on servicing a 9500ss, you will notice that the dog without the fins shows wear on the underside, not easy to see from the top. Just a thought.
Just put a drop or two of Reel X up there. The parts under the rotor are pretty protected unless it gets submerged. I recently brought a 4400 back to life after being submerged in saltwater for at least a week. The dogs and under rotor parts were Ok.
Bob
That`s exactly how I run my 6500 and 7500,....... works for me.
Quote from: Cone on October 11, 2014, 11:39:16 PM
I took all the transfer bars off on my reels. I never have needed to disengage both of them yet. ;) I have accidentally bumped the reel and had the transfer bar disengage the dogs by mistake. Sometimes I will just use one dog if the noise bothers someone but I still can engage the other one if needed. JMO Bob
Any of them I used got the same treatment. I also installed the dogs, parts so the anti-reverse can not be off.
"do you have the upper eccentric lever to the right and the lower lever to the left?
Yes Sal, I opened up my 6500SS and compared to the pictures that BigT also have on his tutorial for the 6500SS and its is on the same position.
Two or maybe three things that maybe weren't right: I think I had too much grease everywhere under the rotor (on top of the screws and springs). I removed all the grease carefully and made a small mix using the blue grease a reelX, with a small brush I went over again leaving a thin layer this time.
The second one was that the click dog seems that it can rest in two locations: Eighter on the side of the dog (Key 4A) on inside of the little hole of the same part with gives less tension. My was positioned resting on the side which was making the silent dog lever under the rotor crooked and and stiff. I moved the sprint so it rests inside of the hole of the dog. the lever is not crooked anymore, however every pictures I've seen, the dog rests on the side.
Now, this is what maybe what the problem really was: since I tend to over tighten screws and nuts, I think I was afraid to strip the rotor nut so I under tight the nut when I first opened it to clean. There were too much play on the rotor. I tight the nut a little more this time, There is still a little play up and down about 1/64, is it normal?(the bottom of the rotor is flushed with the the top of the housing plate). I'm afraid to tight too much (over-torque) and was wondering how tighted this nut should be.
I've saved the picture that Handi2 posted to rig the anti reverse if this happens again (Thanks Handi).
Regards to all
I have installed the spring on the clicking dog both ways. I would keep it in the hole. If the lever is crooked or wiggles back and forth the bushing may be missing. There is a plastic bushing installed into the body before the eccentric goes in. There is one for both levers. The top one and bottom one. Make sure the top one is there.
The rotor nut goes on as tight as I can get it with a 1/2" nut driver. With a socket and wrench be a little more careful but it needs to be tight. No up and down movement.