So, i have been trying to tie the uni knot for heavier mono and adding more wraps at the same time.
I have been wondering for some time now, but does a proper uni knot look like?
Anyone want to tie a proper uni knot with heavy mono and show their knot here?
Add different views of course(closed-up) so that we can examine the knot more in detail.
With heavier mono you should use fewer wraps.
Quote from: akfish on February 10, 2019, 11:42:53 AM
With heavier mono you should use fewer wraps.
i have been tying 40-6o pound line recently and using 5 wraps. I been trying 6 wraps recently as i read some fisherman tying 80 pounds with 6 wraps.
Akfish is, I believe based on my experience, correct. For me 3.5 - 6 turns for 50 lb. mono. or less, for 60 lb. and above 3 - 3.5 is enough. I'm tryin not to crease or crimp the line.
A Uni however, will not tighten up at the 60 lb., 3.5 turn level. But, the clinch knot will.
I always use the clinch, along with an "anti-slip" granny in the tag end. Also with 40 lb. and below I use 2 turns around the ring, which makes it harder to tighten, but not impossible.
Pic. 1, a uni with 60 lb., 3.5 twists. Pic. 2, a clinch, 60 lb.- 3.5 turns. Pic. 3 same knot as pic. 1, better angle.
I only use the uni for line to line connections, for the "wrap over both lines" effect.
I use this knot for nearly everything, terminal tackle and even joining two bits of mono together. Usually only 3 wraps. Occasionally 2 and 3 when joining say 80 lb to 40 lb with 2 wraps on the 80 lb.
Tightening the knot when joining two lines can be tricky.
Might I recommend a single San Diego?
Yes! For heavy mono or fluoro, my go to knot is the San Diego. I sometimes use the uni for light lines, and I think an uni-uni knot is ok for splicing non-hollow spectra.
Use the Uni-knot for just about everything I can. Braid to braid casting leaders (8 turns), 50-60lb (0.7-0.8mm) nylon to swivels for traces (4-5 turns), use it to snell hooks rather than traditional snelling knots - find it more reliable (4-5 turns).
Have used it on much thicker nylon when tying traces for fish with harder mouths - up to 100lb (1.1mm), just dip the end to be tied ina cup of warm water - tie the Uni-knot - 3-4 turns, and let it cool - rock solid.
Hope that helps.
Cheers from sunny Africa
These are pics of my 5-turn uni-knot.
Does it look like a uni?
(https://imgur.com/kSpAmeh)
(https://imgur.com/ijIJs3s)
(https://imgur.com/jwdoZJA)
https://imgur.com/kSpAmeh (https://imgur.com/kSpAmeh)
https://imgur.com/ijIJs3s (https://imgur.com/ijIJs3s)
https://imgur.com/jwdoZJA (https://imgur.com/jwdoZJA)
Anybody getting a small box where the pics are suppose to show?
Quote from: alantani on February 11, 2019, 02:44:16 AM
Might I recommend a single San Diego?
I use uni knots for light line but for 40# and up the SD is my go to knot. I'm a knot head and know a lot of knots too.
Quote from: Reel Beaker on February 11, 2019, 03:06:19 PM
These are pics of my 5-turn uni-knot.
Does it look like a uni?
That's the way mine always turn out. I was looking at the ones gfish tied and was wondering if I was tying something different than a uni. I always do a uni to uni when I tie mono leader to braid. Sort of like the way the braid part of the uni goes thru the guides on a cast, like a bit of a cushion. I know there are many knots and some are a lot better, but for me this has worked.
Dave
Quote from: droppedit on February 11, 2019, 04:14:26 PM
Quote from: Reel Beaker on February 11, 2019, 03:06:19 PM
These are pics of my 5-turn uni-knot.
Does it look like a uni?
That's the way mine always turn out. I was looking at the ones gfish tied and was wondering if I was tying something different than a uni. I always do a uni to uni when I tie mono leader to braid. Sort of like the way the braid part of the uni goes thru the guides on a cast, like a bit of a cushion. I know there are many knots and some are a lot better, but for me this has worked.
Dave
so reassuring to know that others tying uni knots are getting the same knots as me.
I was wonder if this is the right way the knot should be forming.
Another vote for the SD, which I use for all terminal tackle. I find it forms up better than a clinch or uni. Of course that may be because I get more practice with it.
In a hurry I just tie a 4 turn uni in heavy mono.
Less hurry, AG Chain knot.
Sitting at home, crimp. Unless it's on a heavy jig setup, then AG chain.
My go to knot is the San Diego too. I use a double San Diego with heavier line.
Do you guys know this version of the uni, well the outcome is very similar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aRkjl-kjZY
It works well with steel cable as well, coated and uncoated and joining thick leader to cable, the thinner the line the more wraps, thick line you really only need 3 wraps and cable 2, the one wrap must just go over the other
So, i tried to tie the San Diego Jam Knot, and it was a lot easier than expected.
I followed the instructions from 101knots.com
http://www.101knots.com/san-diego-jam-knot.html (http://www.101knots.com/san-diego-jam-knot.html)
It took a few tries but i think this is the best knot tied so far.
Below are the pics:
https://imgur.com/5MRrakE (https://imgur.com/5MRrakE)
https://imgur.com/vT4Mb8J (https://imgur.com/vT4Mb8J)
https://imgur.com/vZOBPOs (https://imgur.com/vZOBPOs)
Anybody feels that when you pull the tag end, some of the wraps automatically unwrap itself?
I seem to have this trouble with the clinch knot too.
The trick with the SD jam is to have whatever you're tying anchored to something solid so you can pull on the standing and tag end at the same time. Watch the knot as you snug it up,you'll know it's right once you get used to tying it.
Quote from: Swami805 on February 12, 2019, 02:00:36 PM
The trick with the SD jam is to have whatever you're tying anchored to something solid so you can pull on the standing and tag end at the same time.
That's why I never liked that knot.
I can tie an SD probably faster than anything else with perfect confidence in it. I really like it for irons and what not where it being a little bigger knot isn't important.