I remember various places that mentioned using Carnauba Wax to prevent or protect a reel spool from saltwater corrosion. I also remember someone saying you have to buff it on, you can't apply by hand. Well I can attest to the last sentence anyway. I tried rubbing the block of wax on the spool of my penn 80Tw. It was like rubbing the spool with a block of wood. So I heated the wax in a tin can on the top of my wood heater, painted it onto the spool with a hair bristled paintbrush (of course I tried the nylon/plastic bristle brush - and you know what happened). Well The wax dried instantly , then flaked off like pieces of eggshell from a boiled egg. I had the spool off the reel, all bearings out, so I heated the spool to about 130* fahrenheit, and the wax a bit above it's melting temperature (180*f.). Now THAT looked better. All was well until the spool cooled down to room temperature. This time It peeled like a very stubborn hard boiled egg - but peel off it did. The only place it held was a small spot where the saltwater had eaten thru the anodized finish.
My conclusion: You can't apply the wax by hand You have to buff it on..... Greg
Carnuba wax is like what you use on your car. If you're melting it to apply it you're not using the right type.
Good luck
If you are using the pure (solid) form of carnauba, it helps to have a means of turning the spool at moderate rpm as the wax is applied. This could be a line-winder, lathe, modified drill press, etc. Otherwise, it will have to be buffed on.
Sorry for your troubles, but a paste form or spray car wax is in order here.
It really does protect the spool from corrosion.
It is pure wax and I have a lathe. I also wasn't really complaining, just passing on info. Education is only education if you share it.
I will use my the lathe and/or the buffer. Maybe even cut the wax with beeswax like the auto detailers do.(more education ? )
Thanks for the replys..
greg
I use a Dremel or buffing wheel (on a grinder). Hold the carnauba wax stick against the buffing wheel to 'load' the wheel (you only need a small amount). Then hold the spool to the wheel. Job done.
I use my line spooling machine. I ran into the same problem listed above the first time I tried using the solid block of pure canuba. I tried ironing it on with a monocoat iron, and heating the spool a little bit with my heat gun. Although the later method worked best, I ended up just buying some canuba autowax and found it much easier yo apply.
John
Hi Greg,
You were close you don't need to put on too much. Like applying wax on your car. Only a thin layer is al you need then repeat to build the layers of wax. Try this. When the wax is soft from heating it up. Dip a small piece of terry cloth towel in the wax. The warmth of your hand should soften the wax it a bit as well. Then apply the wax to the spool by rubbing the spool so you can see a thin layer of wax on the spool(looks like a thin layer of oil). Then let dry and wipe off the dry wax with a clean terry cloth towel. Then repeat. Each time you repeat this processes, you will use less and less wax because you are just adding microns of wax on the surface.
I hope this helps.
Bryan
well THAT was a lot of work ! One spool done, 5 to go. I went with Tiddlerbashers's buffing technique. Next spool I'll give Bryan's method and Shark hunter's a try,- but not today. Leave for Barra de Navidad to "play in the water" for 2 weeks.
The hardened wax is still holding in the spot that was corroded, so maybe that will be a new discovery (for me), The hole is 3/4 way down the side of the spool (I'm wagering that's how far the rinse water got to last time out ) the hole's about the size of a pencil's diameter and just took the anodizing off, it's not deep. It will be interesting to see if the wax stays in that Much more porous surface.
Thanx again to everybody for the input...
greg
I have used my sons surf wax on the spools of my electric deep drop reels filled with braid.
When spooling I waxed the spool and then 100 feet or so of the line. This "surf wax" is very sticky. It was probably sex wax..!!
Quote from: handi2 on November 26, 2016, 10:00:12 PM
I have used my sons surf wax on the spools of my electric deep drop reels filled with braid.
When spooling I waxed the spool and then 100 feet or so of the line. This "surf wax" is very sticky. It was probably sex wax..!!
Mr. Zog's "sex wax". I've been using that since '76 on surfboards, but not on reels but it is good stuff.
Different flavors too.
Use the Eagle One Liquid Carnauba in a spray bottle.
I use it to wax my Truck as well. Good Stuff.
Same Maker as Nevr Dull.
Waxing the line near the bottom of the spool sounds like a good idea too. I recently bought some bars of bees wax for spools and there was a bar of Sex Wax here all along.
-steve
Sex wax comes in different hardnesses for different water temperature. I would think the warm tropical water wax would be best for a spool
I am thinking of getting some to fill the screw holes.
It doesn't melt on a surfboard laying in the direct sunlight. Its smells good too...
This is a good idea...hmmm
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 27, 2016, 03:29:24 PM
I am thinking of getting some to fill the screw holes.
I have used the sex wax on the zippers of my tackle bags also, Seems to help prevent corrosion on them also. Grease and/or oil is too messy for zippers.
Quote from: conchydong on November 27, 2016, 05:40:03 PM
I have used the sex wax on the zippers of my tackle bags also, Seems to help prevent corrosion on them also. Grease and/or oil is too messy for zippers.
We use on our Eisenglass zipperes and snaps too.
I use Collinite HD Paste apply up to 3 times then polish and then let the spool soak in WD-40 Specialist Long term Corrosion Inhibitor...
I wonder if this stuff would be any good for coating spools?
-steve
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Quote from: handi2 on November 26, 2016, 10:00:12 PM
When spooling I waxed the spool and then 100 feet or so of the line.!
this remembered my method.
maybe not the best method but have worked for me in the last years, instead of wax I apply some yamaha grease to the bottom of the spool, then spool 100-150ft of line on it, and then I spray some corrosion X oil to the line on the spool, just a bit not to get it dropping oil, if I even want to turn the braid on the next season I just cut that oily part and the rest of the line looks brand new.
People use Boeshield too for the same purpose.
well I made it back from Barra and although the fishing wasn't the greatest I did observe that the carnauba wax did indeed stay on the spool. even the stuff I melted into the corroded spot. It doesn't appear there's anything on the spool unless you have real clean hands. Then you can feel the slickness of the wax. How long it will stay on is yet to be seen.
greg
I thought I posted a follow up - but I don't see it.
The fishing was not the greatest on my last trip, but the reel with the wax got a couple of workouts. The wax is still there although I didn't notice anything until my hands were clean and dry. Then I can feel the slickness of the wax. Also, the hot wax I coated the "oxidized thru the finish" hole, is still holding strong. This may be of use to someone with a heavily pitted spool. Heat the spool, heat the wax, and dab some in the pits.
Greg
i've been using yamaha grease on the spools. i do know that it works well on the inside of the reels and it's also easy to use because i have plenty of it around. it's probably less a matter of what you use and more a matter of just using something, anything, to protect these spools.