The white stuff is coming down tomorrow, that is my queue to get my Honda Ridgeline buttoned up for winter use.
The brake calipers keep sticking and I am guessing the brake caliper ears have rust which is causing this.
What grease do you use on the brake caliper EARS?
Whatever honda dealer used washed out and stopped working after 1 season, arrrgh.
Will this work?
https://www.permatex.com/products/lubricants/specialty-lubricants-brakes/permatex-ultra-disc-brake-caliper-lube-4/?
Yup ! I, personally, have always used "never seize" (the original 'silver colored'). It's a Permatex product, as well...and probably the same stuff
For that application a marine grease is probably your best option . Specially if you are one of those pressure wash my rims demon type . It resist salt , water and car wash demons as well .
Gobi,
The grease in your link is good stuff. I use a very similar product and have had good results. It stays put and holds up well to saltwater.
-Mike
Thanks guys,
I am going to take them out later this week, I have a height issue, my jack does not lift high enough,
Pics of the metal liners between pad and calipers.
Whoa dude! So, they're salting the roads up there, huh?
Ouch !
Quote from: Gfish on November 23, 2020, 09:18:04 PM
Whoa dude! So, they're salting the roads up there, huh?
just a little ::)
I have new brackets I believe
I might just replace the brackets, let's see how they are,
Shibley - Depending on the supplier of the shoes, usually those metal sliders, hardware, etc are part of the package. Of course, living where I do generally they don't look like that when the pads are worn and replaced :D
I was being silly about the salt.
Where I live in MI, we get about 190 inches of snow on average,
Salt is on our roads many months of the year.
This truck is a 2007, I used it in winter mostly, the brakes were worked on the dealer 1.5 years back. They are sticking again.
I found this on the while internetting,
Crow, this guy says anti seize is not recommended for brake calipers
https://youtu.be/idB7Kh27DHA
Main Rust concern is between the caliper bracket and guide plate, especially after I file it and clean it to expose virgin metal.
Quote from: Brewcrafter on November 25, 2020, 05:17:55 AM
Shibley - Depending on the supplier of the shoes, usually those metal sliders, hardware, etc are part of the package. Of course, living where I do generally they don't look like that when the pads are worn and replaced :D
I have a couple of complete calipers sitting in my shop, can't remember if they are the fronts or rear, I could steal the metal sliders from those :-)
but i think the sliders are fine, it is rust below them that is pushing and locking the pads.
The sliders are normally stainless steel and should be fine. I clean up all contact parts with a dremel with a SS wire wheel and apply anti-Sieze grease on those contact parts.
I have been doing this since I was a little tyke following in my dad's footsteps when working on cars. I also add anti-sieze on the hub but not not the lugs. I don't want the wheel to stick to the hub. I don't want the lugs st get loose dur to the lubrications.
Let me watch the YouTube on the guy not recommending anti-sieze
Oh, I see. I use brake formulated anti-seize grease. Not just ordinary anti-seize. Normal anti-seize does not have a high enough temperature rating and will bake and get sticky.
We're on the island, now, so I can't check the can, but I'm *sure ?* the Never-Seize ' i use is the "regular" (red can...thick composition....mixed with "aluminum"flakes....darn near impossible to wash off your hands, or tools) not sure of the "heat rating", but we always used in on turbo bolts, muffler clamps, etc. I know they also have formulations for stainless steel fasteners, and one for brass, or copper fasteners. Anyway, I've always had good luck with their products, so I'm sure their "brake formula" is excellent, as well. As Bryan said, clean everything up, as best you can, lube the area UNDER the slide, as well as the ears on the bad.............Just had a thought, I'll bet they are 'worried ' about the metal "flakes' getting on the brake pad surface ! as i said, it's almost impossible to get that stuff off, and on the porous brake material...it IS impossible, so........be careful where you put ANY lube, on your brakes ! Grease,or oil, on the pads, shoes (or clutch) surfaces causes them to be "grabby" when they are cold (as when first applied), and then "slippery' when they "heat up"
By the way, Gobi...Ceder Point REALLY got hammered this year ! Not much left but pilings!
Crow, that very unfortunate for Ceder Point, I wonder if the local fishermen will start a gofundme for them,
They were decimated few years back, I am afraid at this rate they just might go under.
I have the permatex anti seize,
Yes, I am most concerned about the metal under the stainless steel slide brackets. Gotcha, yeah we don't want grease brakes :-)
I am going to take em off today, more pics later today.
Quote from: Gobi King on November 27, 2020, 02:24:15 PM
Crow, that very unfortunate for Ceder Point, I wonder if the local fishermen will start a gofundme for them,
They were decimated few years back, I am afraid at this rate they just might go under.
You have to wonder if privately owned piers are a thing of the past. The state or county can afford to rebuild after every storm (albeit they take forever). I doubt that a private company could afford either insurance or rebuilding these days. Since the pier has been through the permitting process or is grandfathered they could try to give it to the government in exchange for being able to operate it as a concession. Fishing piers are for the public good and always have a lot of public support.
-steve
Last time it happened, I found out from Steve (owner's Son, dad passed since then), that they do not have insurance, ouch.
Hence the go fund me idea, There was a public spot on the island but the sand from Katrina made it useless, no water near it now.
Shibly - You can always go to the medicine cabinet and grab a bottle of Maalox. Trick my Dad showed me oh-so many years ago and was our standard practice on exhaust manifolds...works just fine as a thread antiseize in a pinch... - john
I'll try to get some pix of the "local" piers, Shibs.....Ceder Point "just' got fully open, last March, and now....back to square one ! The public pier by the Fort is "gone" , as well....and the pier you referenced (the "bridge to nowhere !), as far as I can find out, suffered no damage , of any kind...and hasn't, since Katrina left it "land locked' Go Figure !
brew, I might just need to take some maalox, as this brake job is giving me ulcers.
I had my tools all lined up and impacted off the lugs, and no go, the tire is STUCK to the brake rotor, the nice guys at the dealership did NOT put any anti seize on the mating surface.
I gave it a go with a 5lb rubber mallet, no dice.
arrrrgh, I buttoned up the tire and called the dealer for an appt to rotate the tires, let them figure this one out.
on a bright note, the dewalt impact made quick work of the lugs which were torqued to 94 ft lbs.
Crow, please do, it is heart wrenching to see the devastation caused by the water. Maybe some of the locals and root for them and get some sort of funding going.
When that happened to us we used a 12 ft 4x4 as a battering ram, slamming it forward from the other side and rotating the tire between each hit.
-steve
Awe man. I hate when that happens. One cheaper alternative is to take it somewhere to have your tires rotated and watch them do it. It becomes their problem to solve.
Quote from: oc1 on December 01, 2020, 04:26:54 AM
When that happened to us we used a 12 ft 4x4 as a battering ram, slamming it forward from the other side and rotating the tire between each hit.
-steve
Lol, I tried to mimic that with a 5lb mallet, I have a 15lb sledge but with my luck I will probably kill the rim on the first hit
x2 on what you said Bryan, I have an appt for tire rotation.
Here's a few pix of Cedar Point , Shibs ! I'll get a few, from the bridge, later....it was "too cold , and windy" to walk out, and take them, today :D, .....
Thanks for taking the pics, the floor boards are nearly all gone.
With lumber being 250% more now, that is going to be expensive for them.
They are building some piers (e.g. Bob Hall) with floating concrete panels as decking. I guess the panels are either hollow or foam filled. The decking panels rest on concrete pilings. The storm breaks the decking panels loose and they float away washing up on the beach. With the decking no longer pulling at the pilings, the pilings will survive. After the storm, they pick the decking panels up off the beach and put them back in place.
-steve
Quote from: oc1 on November 27, 2020, 07:57:49 PM
Quote from: Gobi King on November 27, 2020, 02:24:15 PM
Crow, that very unfortunate for Ceder Point, I wonder if the local fishermen will start a gofundme for them,
They were decimated few years back, I am afraid at this rate they just might go under.
You have to wonder if privately owned piers are a thing of the past. The state or county can afford to rebuild after every storm (albeit they take forever). I doubt that a private company could afford either insurance or rebuilding these days. Since the pier has been through the permitting process or is grandfathered they could try to give it to the government in exchange for being able to operate it as a concession. Fishing piers are for the public good and always have a lot of public support.
-steve
Avalon pier in kill devil hills nc has been knocked down so many times it's now 3times smaller and 12years ago a ghost ship came off the bottom and crashed in to it,,,,hehe now that's bad luck,,,,,, ;D
Quote from: oc1 on December 07, 2020, 08:12:29 PM
They are building some piers (e.g. Bob Hall) with floating concrete panels as decking. I guess the panels are either hollow or foam filled. The decking panels rest on concrete pilings. The storm breaks the decking panels loose and they float away washing up on the beach. With the decking no longer pulling at the pilings, the pilings will survive. After the storm, they pick the decking panels up off the beach and put them back in place.
-steve
Ceder point is a small operations, I doubt they have the $$$ for sinking that kinda investment.
I was trying to map where the floating planks would end for for Cedar point, if they had those, I think the planks would flush out of Mobile bay and go west with the current and be somewhere in LA? :o
Quote from: Benni3 on December 08, 2020, 12:25:46 AM
Quote from: oc1 on November 27, 2020, 07:57:49 PM
Quote from: Gobi King on November 27, 2020, 02:24:15 PM
Crow, that very unfortunate for Ceder Point, I wonder if the local fishermen will start a gofundme for them,
They were decimated few years back, I am afraid at this rate they just might go under.
You have to wonder if privately owned piers are a thing of the past. The state or county can afford to rebuild after every storm (albeit they take forever). I doubt that a private company could afford either insurance or rebuilding these days. Since the pier has been through the permitting process or is grandfathered they could try to give it to the government in exchange for being able to operate it as a concession. Fishing piers are for the public good and always have a lot of public support.
-steve
lol, they needed to pay a shaman to ward of ghost ships, ;D
Avalon pier in kill devil hills nc has been knocked down so many times it's now 3times smaller and 12years ago a ghost ship came off the bottom and crashed in to it,,,,hehe now that's bad luck,,,,,, ;D
Last night I had some free time and worked on the front brakes.
Pass Side - one Caliper slide was frozen, the pads ears were somewhat sticky.
I had new factory calipers in my stash so I just replaced the bracket from that.
I ground the ears down a bit on my concrete, I have to setup my grinder wheel and so this again later. I lubed the pad ears with silicon
Driver Side -
Both caliper slides moved but were bit sticky, I cleaned them and relubed them.
Inside caliper ears were quite stuck on the bottom,
I could not take off the bracket as the bottom bracket bolt was STUCK, I stop impacting it as I was scared the top of the bolt would shear off.
I sprayed some PB blaster and put the top bolt back in again.
grease the ears of the pads and called it a day.
Wanted to let you know, Shibs, that I saw a big stack of poles, and several lifts of planking stacked in Ceder points parking area, last Friday....looks like they will be starting the rebuilding, soon.
Quote from: Crow on January 25, 2021, 10:48:28 PM
Wanted to let you know, Shibs, that I saw a big stack of poles, and several lifts of planking stacked in Ceder points parking area, last Friday....looks like they will be starting the rebuilding, soon.
We lost a few posts on this thread, good to see they are rebuilding.
Hey, Crow, bit chilly on Dauphin ehh? 24F, wow, don't forget to run that water faucet pls.
Yeah ! We didn't have any issues...when the Campground guy said "let 'em trickle", we did...but they worked almost all day fixin' those that DIDN'T !
I see a few new boards being nailed up on Ceder Point !