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General Maintenance Tips => General Questions and Trouble Shooting => Topic started by: pjstevko on August 15, 2019, 04:53:34 AM

Title: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: pjstevko on August 15, 2019, 04:53:34 AM
I took a gamble on paying $125 shipped for a reel (sight unseen) posted on FB marketplace which only showed a gold Tiburon frame and when I asked the seller for more pics and she sends back a pic of gold Accuplates....I said sold even though I wasn't sure what I was looking at but I figured the used plates and frame are worth the price alone...... Am I right?

So..... Did I hit the jackpot?    What exactly is this reel?

Pj
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Tunacious on August 15, 2019, 05:15:01 AM
Just a guess...but it looks like a Penn 4/0.
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: sabaman1 on August 15, 2019, 05:16:44 AM
 Pj, you scored and did hit the jackpot!!! It looks like either a 113h or 114h Accurate, tiburon conversion, give it a good cleaning and go catch
some big fish with it.

Tight lines!
   Jim
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: RowdyW on August 15, 2019, 05:18:16 AM
I'd say it's a 114H with a Tiburon frame & Accurate Accuplates. It's to big to be a 113H. Don't worry I'll take it off your hands & even pay the shipping.  JACKPOT!!!!      Rudy
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on August 15, 2019, 05:51:00 AM
What a score PJ!  Congratulations!
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: redsetta on August 15, 2019, 07:43:22 AM
Great work PJ - she's a beauty!
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Alto Mare on August 15, 2019, 09:11:06 AM
Wow! a 6/0 for $125...you did really good.

Sal
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Crow on August 15, 2019, 11:45:57 AM
Sweet deal !! Ya' did good !
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: pjstevko on August 15, 2019, 01:46:28 PM
Now to find someone to tear it apart, upgrade parts and clean it up for me  ???  ??? ???

Anyone wanna make some extra $??? ??? ???
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: MarkT on August 15, 2019, 02:03:02 PM
What are your plans for it?
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: pjstevko on August 15, 2019, 02:25:24 PM
Quote from: MarkT on August 15, 2019, 02:03:02 PM
What are your plans for it?

I'm gonna keep it but not sure what how it should be used...... Trolling, flat fall jigging, or heavy bait?
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Gfish on August 15, 2019, 02:25:55 PM
Nice. Accuplates and Tib. frame, even line. Who knows what kinda guts are in it? $125---jackpot! Love the Accurate upgrade products and their value will increase with time. A little heavy for aluminum but that's a + for me.
Maybe an opportunity, if you have the time, to delve into servicing it yourself. Plenty of help here. And if you're gonna saltwater fish it, you need to service it at least once/year anyways.
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: MarkT on August 15, 2019, 02:33:23 PM
114h were the standard trolling reels on the shorter trips back when there were Albacore down here.  It's what I have one for with a Tib frame.
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: RowdyW on August 15, 2019, 03:09:55 PM
Quote from: pjstevko on August 15, 2019, 01:46:28 PM
Now to find someone to tear it apart, upgrade parts and clean it up for me  ???  ??? ???

Anyone wanna make some extra $??? ??? ???
Pj, I can handle it for you. Just pay for parts & shipping. I would enjoy doing it, the 114H is my favorite.       Rudy
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Donnyboat on August 15, 2019, 03:27:59 PM
Hi Pj, I would take Rudy up on that generous offer, could not be in better hands, nice find for sure, cheers Don.
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Bryan Young on August 15, 2019, 03:58:52 PM
Quote from: RowdyW on August 15, 2019, 03:09:55 PM
Quote from: pjstevko on August 15, 2019, 01:46:28 PM
Now to find someone to tear it apart, upgrade parts and clean it up for me  ???  ??? ???

Anyone wanna make some extra $??? ??? ???
Pj, I can handle it for you. Just pay for parts & shipping. I would enjoy doing it, the 114H is my favorite.       Rudy
Rudy beat me to it.  You are in good hands with Rudy.
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: pjstevko on August 15, 2019, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: RowdyW on August 15, 2019, 03:09:55 PM
Quote from: pjstevko on August 15, 2019, 01:46:28 PM
Now to find someone to tear it apart, upgrade parts and clean it up for me  ???  ??? ???

Anyone wanna make some extra $??? ??? ???
Pj, I can handle it for you. Just pay for parts & shipping. I would enjoy doing it, the 114H is my favorite.       Rudy

Rudy Thank you for your generous offer and I graciously accept! PM on the way!!!!!
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: pjstevko on August 15, 2019, 11:10:12 PM
Now to figure out what to use it for once Rudy is going to do the tear down, inspection, upgrades and assembly.....

What should/would you use this reel for?????????
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Rivverrat on August 15, 2019, 11:20:54 PM
Trolling, bottom fishing & live bait.
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: RowdyW on August 15, 2019, 11:40:27 PM
Pj, this is going to put you in the market for a rod to handle it.
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: pjstevko on August 16, 2019, 02:49:14 AM
Quote from: RowdyW on August 15, 2019, 11:40:27 PM
Pj, this is going to put you in the market for a rod to handle it.

Oh I know..... I'm already thinking about that  ;D
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: bhale1 on August 16, 2019, 03:34:30 AM
PJ,
Great find.... really should not pass up Rudy's offer!.....JMO!
All the best ;D
Brett
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Alto Mare on August 16, 2019, 09:51:29 AM
I was just thinking, if accurate gears are in that reel, you paid just for those and got the reel free.

Sal
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: pjstevko on August 16, 2019, 02:20:52 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 16, 2019, 09:51:29 AM
I was just thinking, if accurate gears are in that reel, you paid just for those and got the reel free.

Sal
I don't know much about accurate gears but my thought was that the frame and plates alone were worth the $. Plus if someone went through the process of buying and putting together the frame and plates I'm thinking they upgraded the internals as well!

I'm looking forward to hearing what Rudy finds when he opens it up ;D
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: akfish on August 16, 2019, 04:04:43 PM
Great Find!! But be certain to keep it clean, inside and out. Accurate frames were notorious for corroding if they were kept clean and with a thin coat of grease on all internal parts.
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: pjstevko on August 16, 2019, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: akfish on August 16, 2019, 04:04:43 PM
Great Find!! But be certain to keep it clean, inside and out. Accurate frames were notorious for corroding if they were kept clean and with a thin coat of grease on all internal parts.

Thanks for that heads up! I'll be sure to have Rudy grease everything inside before he puts it back together!
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: RowdyW on August 16, 2019, 09:11:16 PM
Pj, that's my standard procedure.  ;)
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: pjstevko on August 16, 2019, 09:54:14 PM
Quote from: RowdyW on August 16, 2019, 09:11:16 PM
Pj, that's my standard procedure.  ;)

Oh i know it is Rudy!!!! I know the reel is in great hands ;D ;D ;D I'm super excited to hear what you find inside....
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: pjstevko on August 17, 2019, 07:52:08 PM
I peeled off all the mono and the spool looks in like new condition with no corrosion! I also turned on the clicker for the first time and it sounds to me like this reel has a double dog AR system in it already....

Do old school 6/0 come with a double dog AR stock?
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: RowdyW on August 17, 2019, 08:30:39 PM
No Accurate plates came double dogged. I doubt that it has double dogs as you would have to cut the plates to install the doubles which would remove some of the anodizing leaving it succeptable to corrosion. But it's always possible that someone created a double dog bridge plate, but doubtful. We'll find out next week.
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: pjstevko on August 17, 2019, 08:42:14 PM
Quote from: RowdyW on August 17, 2019, 08:30:39 PM
No Accurate plates came double dogged. I doubt that it has double dogs as you would have to cut the plates to install the doubles which would remove some of the anodizing leaving it succeptable to corrosion. But it's always possible that someone created a double dog bridge plate, but doubtful. We'll find out next week.

Ok good to know! I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about so just ignore me  :D
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: RowdyW on August 17, 2019, 09:26:27 PM
It sure would be nice to find diamonds in your gold mine.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: bhale1 on August 17, 2019, 11:33:27 PM
Quote from: RowdyW on August 17, 2019, 09:26:27 PM
It sure would be nice to find diamonds in your gold mine.  ;D ;D
I so hope your right Rudy, this will be fun to follow😁
I'm sure you will keep us up to date!!
Brett
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Gfish on August 18, 2019, 12:37:48 AM
Double dogs would be how many clicks/1 handle turn if alternating? 16?
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: RowdyW on August 18, 2019, 01:20:48 AM
Only with a 8 tooth sleeve. 20 with a 10 tooth sleeve.
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Bill B on August 18, 2019, 01:21:43 AM
Good job on the reel and having Rudy service it.  Looking at the handle nut shows it's a 116 part number....a 6/0 for sure.....Bill
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: pjstevko on August 18, 2019, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: RowdyW on August 18, 2019, 01:20:48 AM
Only with a 8 tooth sleeve. 20 with a 10 tooth sleeve.

I got curious so I went out into the garage and turned the handle.......

40 clicks per 1 rotation

So I'm assuming it's a 10 tooth gear making it a 4:1 gear ratio?
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on August 18, 2019, 03:54:46 PM
Quote from: pjstevko on August 17, 2019, 07:52:08 PM
I peeled off all the mono and the spool looks in like new condition with no corrosion! I also turned on the clicker for the first time and it sounds to me like this reel has a double dog AR system in it already....

Do old school 6/0 come with a double dog AR stock?

Turn the clicker off - then count the clicks per rev ;)
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: pjstevko on August 18, 2019, 05:36:48 PM
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on August 18, 2019, 03:54:46 PM
Quote from: pjstevko on August 17, 2019, 07:52:08 PM
I peeled off all the mono and the spool looks in like new condition with no corrosion! I also turned on the clicker for the first time and it sounds to me like this reel has a double dog AR system in it already....

Do old school 6/0 come with a double dog AR stock?

Turn the clicker off - then count the clicks per rev ;)

Gotcha! Like i said a few comments above....I'm an idiot and don't know anything about these reels so just ignore me  ;D
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: RowdyW on August 18, 2019, 05:45:49 PM
The main & pinion gears don't click. The clicking is from the gear sleeve teeth & dog. To check gear ratio you make one turn of the handle & count the revolutions of the spool with the drag at least partialy engaged. The clicker button on the left side is just an alarm to let you know that a fish is pulling line and is turned off while fighting the fish.
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Alto Mare on August 18, 2019, 06:16:31 PM
Not sure why all the speculations, opening the reel will tell you what you have.
I could bet you don't have a 10 tooth ratchet, or double dogs, the reel will show you that.

Sal
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: RowdyW on August 18, 2019, 07:50:55 PM
There sure are a lot of crystal balls being looked into. All will be revealed as soon as I receive it. (I don't use a crystal ball)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: Maxed Out on August 18, 2019, 09:41:30 PM
 Great find Pj

Btw, there is a way to tell which model by looking the tail plate screw pattern. Don't need a crystal ball to say it's a 114h

Once Rudy is done with it you will be the master of your domain, along with plenty of style points !! Hard to top "form &function" all in one reel like this for buck and a quarter

Ted
Title: Re: $125 gamble.... I think I hit the jackpot!
Post by: ez2cdave on August 19, 2019, 12:10:41 AM
And now, the "hard part" . . . Waiting for the "surgeon" to come out and tell you what he found . . . Fingers crossed for you !

Tight Lines !