So I need a 109 Peen Peer to complete my collection of this series of reels.
I have the 209 & 309.
I have found a ton of 109's.
Every 109 I have found has the traditional Penn ID Circle that says Penn Peer 109.
However my 209 & 309 don't have the traditional circle ID and say Peen Peer under the bearing cover.
Did the 109 ever come with the text under the bearing cover?
Thanks,
Steve
I would say no to your question. Here is the earliest 109 tail plate(1940's)
Maxed Out,
I'm collecting red sided reels.
You think that makes a difference?
Steve
If you don't have one already, the No. 9 peerless is one more model of that line of reels.
Quote from: Shellbelly on July 20, 2023, 01:12:39 AMIf you don't have one already, the No. 9 peerless is one more model of that line of reels.
Shellbelly,
Really, I thought there were only three....
The No. 9 Peerless says "Peerless" whereas the "Penn Peer" doesn't have "less" anywhere.
Not saying I'm right, I'm in way an expert.
Can anyone else confirm or deny?
Thanks,
Steve
lemme check. I have 50 of those things all the way including the teal ones.
That line of Penn level-winders is kinda confusing. Peer, Peerless and Super Peer(this is the only one, the 309, that doesn't have Monofil in the name). I'm sure I've missed something though.
The 109 came out 1st as the Penn peer. Then 1949 the 209 was introduced as the Penn peer Sr. and the 109 then adopted the "Jr" status. The 209 Sr. title only lasted a year or 2 and the 209 became just a 209 according to the box labels, but the 109 kept it's Jr status. The "peerless" #9 is a standard Penn, while the 109 is a knuckle buster. Handle turns when casted. That's the difference
Quote from: Maxed Out on July 21, 2023, 10:08:52 PMHandle turns when casted.
That's dumb... sure that caused a birds nest or two not to mention a lot of short casts.
Quote from: Crab Pot on July 19, 2023, 09:50:15 PMDid the 109 ever come with the text under the bearing cover?
My #9 has the text, "
Penn Peerless No. 9". Same reel as the 109, but yeah, it's a
#9.
Quote from: nelz on July 25, 2023, 07:03:07 AMQuote from: Crab Pot on July 19, 2023, 09:50:15 PMDid the 109 ever come with the text under the bearing cover?
My #9 has the text, "Penn Peerless No. 9". Same reel as the 109, but yeah, it's a #9.
Yep, those are plentiful.
I've never seen a "Penn Peer No. 1" under the tensioner knob and I'm pretty sure they don't exist.
I keep meaning to get back to this. Its harder than it sounds.
Got my Penn 109 in the mail today.
It's the "knuckle busting" version, handle spins in free spool.
One of the green knobs has a tweak in it but that's ok. Gives it personality.
Quote from: Maxed Out on July 19, 2023, 11:01:31 PMI would say no to your question. Here is the earliest 109 tail plate(1940's)
I have one of these old knuckle busters lol!
Or finger crusher, whatever you wanna call it! Do you know how many years they made the black side plates?
Can't believe, this reel is from the 1940s!!
That's pretty darn old, for a reel to be around and working still lol!
Quote from: Crab Pot on July 29, 2023, 05:40:02 PMGot my Penn 109 in the mail today.
It's the "knuckle busting" version, handle spins in free spool.
One of the green knobs has a tweak in it but that's ok. Gives it personality.
Oh, you did find yourself one!
I am the same way, I like red side plates, as opposed to the black ones!
Just watch your fingers lol!
My other Peer's where red plated EA so I wanted to keep them the suited.
I prefer black plated reels but I'm not picky. ;)
Has some kid tried to modify the tailplate with a yellow marker? That was my first thought, but then noticed the same pattern along the edge. The headplate is the normal burgundy. I recall someone here recounting how the molding department folks would occasionally sweep up shavings and re-use them. However, this piece has a different pattern from the usual mottling in the lower end reels. Is this a common coloration/pattern?
RadarRick,
That is some cool marbling/mottling.
Never seen one with such a bright contrast color.
Steve
Wow, never seen that before. Is it mottled like that all the thru? Have you seen the other side of that side plate?
It's not in hand, so I can't examine it very thoroughly - just looking at photos. We can't see the back of the plate as it's covered with chrome side ring.
Note that the yellow streaks are not seen within the lettering or immediately around the worm bearing, spare pawl cover, or under the main bearing. It would seem that it's surface discoloration and not mixed in the bakelite.
I'm thinking that some kind of corrosive chemical was brushed on and bleached out the burgundy color.
Looks like something was applied after it was made. Hard to say without seeing inside. It doesn't look like it was "extruded" with that pattern. Interesting mystery.