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Title: Bench reels
Post by: quabbin boy 62 on May 19, 2022, 08:19:50 PM
What's a good option for a bench reel? I fish with leadcore, copper,and mono, thinking about a reel to spool leadcore or copper onto so can change backing. Just lookin for a little advice. Thanks, guys
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: alantani on May 19, 2022, 10:34:20 PM
is this to just transfer line back and forth?
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: Keta on May 19, 2022, 11:03:31 PM
I have a older Penn 114H I use for some,  a Avet 30W for others.
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: Bill B on May 20, 2022, 12:34:59 AM
Either the 114H or the 113H depending on the size of reel you are pulling from.  With an aluminum spool which has a bigger arbor you will have a head start on arbor thickness than if you used a 3 piece spool.  Plus a higher gear ratio.  If your primary reel is about the same size as a jigmaster a plastic spool has an even bigger spool arbor and a high gear ratio.  Whatever you use greased carbon fiber drags will make respooling your primary reel much easier.  Bill
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: oldmanjoe on May 20, 2022, 01:42:40 AM
Quote from: Bill B on May 20, 2022, 12:34:59 AMEither the 114H or the 113H depending on the size of reel you are pulling from.  With an aluminum spool which has a bigger arbor you will have a head start on arbor thickness than if you used a 3 piece spool.  Plus a higher gear ratio.  If your primary reel is about the same size as a jigmaster a plastic spool has an even bigger spool arbor and a high gear ratio.  Whatever you use greased carbon fiber drags will make respooling your primary reel much easier.  Bill
:d  :d  Spot on
Quote from: quabbin boy 62 on May 19, 2022, 08:19:50 PMWhat's a good option for a bench reel? I fish with leadcore, copper,and mono, thinking about a reel to spool leadcore or copper onto so can change backing. Just lookin for a little advice. Thanks, guys
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: Gfish on May 20, 2022, 02:58:05 AM
My transfer/bench reel is a Long Beach 68. Plenty of room on that spool
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: Porthos on May 20, 2022, 03:27:12 AM
What are the capacities of the in-service reels in question?
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: quabbin boy 62 on May 21, 2022, 09:17:38 AM
i'd use a bench reel to transfer line, i use 4 penn 49L's to troll copper wire for lake trout.  (100'- 300 '). I was looking at 112-114's on ebay, or maybe a jigmaster.
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: quabbin boy 62 on May 21, 2022, 09:59:37 AM
just bought a 113 (4/0) from ebay, looks pretty clean, plenty of room for what i'll use it for. originally, i wasn't sure about a senator, but now i think it'll be easier to work with than a smaller reel. Thanks, gentlemen, tight lines to all!
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: Donnyboat on May 21, 2022, 12:06:30 PM
I think you would have best brought a Penn senator 9/0 with carbon fibre drag, it would hold much more line than you would need for this job, but now your in the rabbit hole, you reels will only get larger, welcome to the forum from Sunny Western Australia, cheers Don.
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: Keta on May 21, 2022, 02:28:12 PM
What I feel is required for a transfer reel is at least 2x the line capacity of the reels being spooled, a large drag stack capable of over 10# for small reels and up to 20# for mid size reels and prefer wide reel to keep drag more uniform as line goes out.  I have mine spoiled 1/2 way with daccron to increase spool diameter.

Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: quabbin boy 62 on May 21, 2022, 07:58:51 PM
well, all i take off to change backer(onto a reel) is between 35 yards and 100 yards of .036 wire, it should hold it ok. the 113 holds more line by about 100 yards or so, my 49's hold about 325 yards of 30 lb mono. my lead core stuff is less bulky, the mono only comes off when it's time to toss it. thanks again     :)   
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: philaroman on May 23, 2022, 03:12:47 AM
Quote from: quabbin boy 62 on May 21, 2022, 07:58:51 PMwell, all i take off to change backer(onto a reel) is between 35 yards and 100 yards of .036 wire, it should hold it ok. the 113 holds more line by about 100 yards or so, my 49's hold about 325 yards of 30 lb mono. my lead core stuff is less bulky, the mono only comes off when it's time to toss it. thanks again    :)   

so, you don't need much capacity or drag, but do want large diameter -- correct?

take a look at some century-old Indiana/"spoke"/side-mount reels:
http://www.sidemountreels.com/indianastylereels.html
 (http://www.sidemountreels.com/indianastylereels.html)
Fred was selling a Goite recently:
https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=34917.45 (https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=34917.45)
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: Gfish on May 23, 2022, 03:32:03 PM
Cool!
Those Indiana side-casting/line-drying reels. MidWestern/yankee ingenuity at it's best. So many were not marked like they were a side project from someone's shop or garage. Gonna have to check that out. I have a nice Alvey that Donnyboat sent me from Oz that would work, but I might need more air flow for the bottom line coils... 
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: philaroman on May 23, 2022, 05:16:21 PM
got the biggest/oldest/simplest (I think?  300m?) pivoting Ueno Seiko Olympic (somewhere?)
reel was cheap, but S/H stupid  ::)  ...came loaded w/ heavy copper braid that sat years & not perma-coiled  :D
that's what made me think: Indiana for shorter wire, or anything w/ coil memory
this may be it, or mine might be bigger and/or more airy...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224293264256?hash=item3438eb9b80:g:TLMAAOSwzcdf5jpt (https://www.ebay.com/itm/224293264256?hash=item3438eb9b80:g:TLMAAOSwzcdf5jpt)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/z~0AAOSwzEpf5jqA/s-l1600.jpg)

basically, 1:1 made of steel&holes  :D  that pivots & casts like Alvey
not using mine...  will find & trade for something cool (pref), or sell cheap
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: Catching Nemo on May 26, 2022, 04:02:10 AM
Quote from: philaroman on May 23, 2022, 05:16:21 PMgot the biggest/oldest/simplest (I think?  300m?) pivoting Ueno Seiko Olympic (somewhere?)
reel was cheap, but S/H stupid  ::)  ...came loaded w/ heavy copper braid that sat years & not perma-coiled  :D
that's what made me think: Indiana for shorter wire, or anything w/ coil memory
this may be it, or mine might be bigger and/or more airy...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224293264256?hash=item3438eb9b80:g:TLMAAOSwzcdf5jpt (https://www.ebay.com/itm/224293264256?hash=item3438eb9b80:g:TLMAAOSwzcdf5jpt)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/z~0AAOSwzEpf5jqA/s-l1600.jpg)

basically, 1:1 made of steel&holes  :D  that pivots & casts like Alvey
not using mine...  will find & trade for something cool (pref), or sell cheap
hi philaroman

Not meaning to hijack the thread, but how the heck do you pivot the spool on this reel?  I bought two of this exact reel from EBay during the last year, and I can't pivot either of them. Is there a way to grip it or press something to get the spool to pivot? Right now, I don't think even the Incredible Hulk can pivot the spool without breaking the reel...
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: philaroman on May 26, 2022, 05:09:55 AM
Quote from: Catching Nemo on May 26, 2022, 04:02:10 AMNot meaning to hijack the thread, but how the heck do you pivot the spool on this reel?  I bought two of this exact reel from EBay during the last year, and I can't pivot either of them. Is there a way to grip it or press something to get the spool to pivot? Right now, I don't think even the Incredible Hulk can pivot the spool without breaking the reel...

the big one is in pretty good shape & my 100m is unused
both pivot...  as I recall, reluctantly at first, after sitting long time, but then quite readily
even without oil or added leverage of being mounted on a rod
just grab the whole thing at point farthest from seat/rod & turn perpendicular to seat/rod

they're mostly stainless, EXCEPT for the pivoting mechanism (I think)
wouldn't take much to corrode shut in one position, then easily shined up to look presentable for sale
keep at it w/ thin penetrating oils & mild heat -- I would think that if corrosion was really bad ("crumbly"),
it would be easier to pivot by force, once & only once...  then it wouldn't hold position

when you do get it going, keep skin flap between thumb & index, AWAY FROM PIVOTING MECHANISM!!!
Title: Re: Bench reels
Post by: Gfish on May 26, 2022, 12:35:19 PM
Phil., I have 2 Penn Monofil's, a 25 & 27, and a very nice Surfmaster 100; all for trade. If interested, and/or need pictures, lemme know.