I just bought a 114h on ebay. The owner said it was brand new. When I received it the side plate screws came from three different reels. The gears had after market grease and the frame cross bars were all scared up. The gears were used . I buy new so I have good spare parts after my conversion to a Tiburon frame kit. Well this is the third time this year where the seller lied. I chose to give all of them except one bad reviews. I don't want these guys to get away with it again so a bad review is my way to help fix thfe problem. It might not work but it's the best I can do. In my book new is new and that's that. They think I won't check until it's to late but he knows that it didn't go his way.
Mike
new is new. the only concession i will make to "new" is it has line on it but never used, in the box.
My way is to file a claim with ebay & paypal for a refund including s&h in addition to a 1 star rating. You don't have to keep what you don't want. It's just a bit of a hassle. Most apples in the basket are good but you will always find a couple that are rotten. Rudy
I guess I've been lucky with The Bay so far... One seller sent me a 506 insteada the 505 that was pictured. I sent her a message and she worked with me on it. I had her send me some clamps I needed, N/C. Now Imina fish that 506 this AM. But that's been the only thing, so far.
I've noticed recently terms like "new" and "unused" have been applied to anything with at least one shiny side. :-\
Yes I agree with what you said. They never think I would ever look inside to find out. All I needed was the side plates and bridge. I take the left over and save it for someone in need of nos parts. Not used parts they are worthless to me.
Mike
Everything now is "mint" "NOS". I laugh at most of them.
Beware when there is only one photo. That is the good side. I recently bought a red hlw spool on ebay from a seller (who is also an AT member) that one side of the spool had corrosion. One photo, guess which side. Rudy
I've bought old reels in the boxes mainly because they came with an nice old box. When I paid I added a message to make sure the reel is packaged so it can't move in the box. 3 times the reel came and I could hear it rattling in the box. The boxes were trashed. A 6/0 will Bunch big holes thru the box. All 3 times I was able to work it out with the seller but what a hassle especially after telling them about packaging. There's always some element of risk on eBay
If you want to deal with great seller fishgrain is top of the line. He always has what I want sooner or later it will show up. I have never had a problem with him. He is also a AT member.
Mike
Let me turn things around a bit: A couple months ago I sold a NIB Avet reel on eBay. It was new in every way. The buyer returned it saying he didn't like it because it was used. It wasn't. Never used, no scratches, nothing. New box, paper, clamp in plastic bag, etc. I was stuck for shipping both ways. My complaint to eBay went for naught...
Quote from: mikeysm on July 19, 2018, 06:07:56 PM
If you want to deal with great seller fishgrain is top of the line. He always has what I want sooner or later it will show up. I have never had a problem with him. He is also a AT member.
Mike
Agree.
One irritating thing I already posted about in another thread is a reel sold without the rod clamp, then further down in that E-Bay section, you see the same seller with the clamp for the reel sold separately and oftentimes at an exorbitant price.
Why are sellers so scared of a bad review.
Mike
Had a reel catch my attention the other day... it was described as "New" yet the photos clearly showed a well-worn corroded old reel. I figured the seller made a mistake in selecting the category, but no. In the description it said "bought this at an estate sale and I have never used it". So I guess it was "new" to him. ::)
Quote from: mikeysm on July 20, 2018, 01:25:42 AM
Why are sellers so scared of a bad review.
Mike
Good question Mike
Personally I never demand 5 star feedback like a lot of eBay sellers
I never mention feedback at all in any of my eBay listings because I prefer honest feedback from each transaction
Most sellers are afraid to give a description, mainly because it opens the door for buyer to get full refund for "item not as described", which coincidentally is the #1 complaint from unhappy eBay buyers. Lots of good honest sellers on eBay.....and a fair amount of shady ones too.
It's the lie they keep telling even after the pictures I take of the worn parts. They keep standing by the lie.
Mike
I bought what was advertised as a black 114H Senator. Pics had poor lighting and it looked black. I even messaged the seller who confirmed it was black.
When I opened it, it was clearly a dark maroon. When I initiated a return the seller accused me of switching the reels. It turned in to a fiasco with ebay but I got my money back.
Yes, most times that is the case. I just want to mention that there are some that actually try to switch the reel.
I take lots of pics when I do sell, but always rate mine much lower than they really are, so they get a nice surprise.
Ebay system does not work, if they don't wake up they will lose it all. I see stuff being sold all over the internet, but not much on ebay.
A sign that most feel the same.
I also want to mention that a couple of months back I had a nice reel for sale and a dozen or so buyers were fighting over it.
The buyer that won decided not to pay.
I contacted Ebay and asked if they would pay me the money and for them to try to get it back from the buyer.
They told me I had to wait 2 weeks before opening a dispute and for me to try to contact the buyer.
Of course he never answer.
Ebay made it very hard for you to contact them...very smart!
After 2 weeks they contacted me and mentioned that I could go ahead and relist my reel ;D.
They do not take auctions seriously, try to do that at a live auction.
Sal
Maybe we should start a seller black list and get the bad apples off of ebay The last seller offered 10 bucks off. He insulted me by doing that. Then after he said no returns he offered to take it back. After I took it apart to do a conversion. Well he can live with the bad review.
Mike
I've never sold on ebay, I only buy --so far. I guess about the only thing you can do to a bad buyer is give them a negative rating and ban them from buying from you again.
I always pay immediately when I buy something on the 'bay.
Ive bought three things from the bay two were ok deals one not so great so i try to stick to Randy P or Sal if i need something. Seems to work out better that way if they have what I need. And a lot less hassle.
I've bought 47 reels from ebay this year and only had one problem. One spinner was missing the drag washers. The reel was in great shape and I still think it was a good deal. No problem, I ordered the washers from Fishgrain.
When something arrives I never #### about it and never leave feedback; either good or bad. What I like about ebay is that it saves time shopping. What I hate about ebay is the sellers think that the more tape and bubble wrap they use the better. Good packaging provides sufficient protection without going overboard.
-steve
FYI, eBay allows only positive feedback to be placed towards the buyer.
Never had problem on ebay with sellers or buyers, I used to sell but don't anymore because you can't choose your buyer, any dumbass can bid on your item
Last year my friend sells his $3000 camera on ebay, the same day it was listed it got sold "yeah!!" 10 day later he gets a message from the angry buyer stating that he received a toy camera and he was going to file a complaint. WTF!!! What made matter even worse is that he had to have a loan to buy the camera in the first place months before to start a new business that didn't work out. I found the guy facebook page quit easily thanks to the internet and what do I see? The guy in vacation somewhere in Romania with my friend camera at its shoulder >:( also find out that he was living at his parent place and working for Ford. My friend tried to contact him but could only reach his parents that were not speaking english. Man it wasn't my camera but just felt like flying down Michigan and giving him a wack.
Anyway, for a month it was a battle between him, paypal and ebay, the verdict was, he had lost $3000 and a camera :( The buyer was ask to send the box with the toy camera back to my friend. When he received the box about ten days later, he found in it a toy camera and two empty bottle of perfume. BUT!!! The dumbass made a big mistake ;D the box didn't weigh the same, 18 oz lighter :D :D :D :D
Case closed
Marc..
locked.