I can't find the thread disguising the Jigmaster challenge so I'll start a new one.
I have the 500/501 reels but would rather fish the Challenge with a 349H. Can we expand it by adding 113H and 349's to the list or will I be forced to fish one of my tricked out 501's? ;D
BTW, My hand is improving rapidly thanks to a wonderful therapist and pushing it hard by me. I can feel my ring and little finger again, I have some grip and I'm not dropping things as much. During the 2014 trip I was experiencing a lot of pain, no strength in my left hand and could not feel 2 fingers. I was afraid I would loose a rod over the side and could not deal with the fish without the help of my friend, Mr. Two Speed. I also pulled a "Allen" and left my 349's in a reel bag on my shop floor.
Very good to hear your hand continues to improve. Keep working at it.
That is good to hear Lee! ;)
Glad to see you're finally on the mend. ;)
Feel good pal,
Dom
Quote from: Keta on August 25, 2014, 06:18:03 PM
BTW, My hand is improving rapidly thanks to a wonderful therapist and pushing it hard by me. I can feel my ring and little finger again, I have some grip and I'm not dropping things as much.
She must be a good looking woman. Post pics. ;D ;D Dominick
Hmmmm......
A Jigmaster challenge or a Penn challenge? There must be rules in any contest: :-\
For a Jigmaster challenge:
Rule #1 Reel must be based on a 500 or 501
Rule #2 USA-made only
Rule #3 No more rules ;D
For a Penn challenge:
Rule #1 Single speed Penns only, made in USA
Rule #2 No Penn Internationals
Rule #3 ???
Who's next?
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on August 26, 2014, 12:42:25 AM
Hmmmm......
A Jigmaster challenge or a Penn challenge? There must be rules in any contest: :-\
For a Jigmaster challenge:
Rule #1 Reel must be based on a 500 or 501
Rule #2 USA-made only
Rule #3 No more rules ;D
For a Penn challenge:
Rule #1 Single speed Penns only, made in USA
Rule #2 No Penn Internationals
Rule #3 ???
Who's next?
I like the Penn challenge, it seems all-inclusive. Jigmasters, Squidders, Senators, whatever. And, since this would be a "vintage" contest, how about no fluorocarbon or braid, just straight mono? :)
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A~
Rob posted some rules, but I'm not sure that I understand. ??? Is this challenge, catch the biggest fish, win all of the liquor? ;)
I'm pretty sure it won't matter what you all bring or what the rules are as I plan on winning anyway ;D :P ;D
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Quote from: doradoben on August 26, 2014, 01:38:42 AM
Rob posted some rules, but I'm not sure that I understand. ??? Is this challenge, catch the biggest fish, win all of the liquor? ;)
I dunno. Ask Lee or Big Tim. I don't make the contests, I just make the rules. Yeah, right. ::) Don't I wish.
Quote from: Aiala on August 26, 2014, 01:03:00 AM
I like the Penn challenge, it seems all-inclusive. Jigmasters, Squidders, Senators, whatever. And, since this would be a "vintage" contest, how about no fluorocarbon or braid, just straight mono? :)
~A~
I could go with mono or Dacron but not 100% mono.
jigmasters? ppppffffftttttt !!! now, zebco versus rhino. that would be a contest!!!!!
Hmm...
a hotrodded sleeper Zebco
:D Check out my tanked 33 Classic! ;D
I like the all mono for sure...Nothing over 30# ;D ;D ;D I know I once landed a 28# Halibut on 20# mono on a Penn 209 with an ol' Fenwick E glass rod
Quote from: doradoben on August 26, 2014, 01:38:42 AM
Rob posted some rules, but I'm not sure that I understand. ??? Is this challenge, catch the biggest fish, win all of the liquor? ;)
Win all the liquor? You might be on to something there. Big Tim was talking about a rod/reel combo for the prize in the other (deposits) post.
Quote from: Big Tim on August 26, 2014, 11:59:43 PM
I like the all mono for sure...Nothing over 30# ;D ;D ;D I know I once landed a 28# Halibut on 20# mono on a Penn 209 with an ol' Fenwick E glass rod
But Tim, it's only a 5-day trip. You can't fight a YT on 30# for 3 or 4 of those 5 days. ;D ::) ;D
I do have an old Seeker S870-7' and a 500 Jigmaster and a 505hs I can put on it for the prize, Rob I got 40# & my HX 5/2 to play with as well, but a big Yellow on a Jigmaster on Steroids with 30# would be AWESOME ;D ;D ;D
Dacron pre dates mono and should be allowed.
Quote from: Keta on August 27, 2014, 12:46:54 AM
Dacron pre dates mono and should be allowed.
Lee, I think you pre date mono as well and since your allowed, maybe we can consider it? I don't make rules, just the prize for this one.
Tim
DuPont made public in 1938 that their company had invented nylon.[1] This new invention was the first synthetic fiber, fabrics that are commonly used in textiles today.[2] In 1939, DuPont began marketing nylon monofilament fishing lines;
Quote from: doradoben on August 26, 2014, 01:38:42 AM
Rob posted some rules, but I'm not sure that I understand. ??? Is this challenge, catch the biggest fish, win all of the liquor? ;)
If I can actually remember all the booze that was on that trip? It would be one heck of a haul ;D ;D ;D
Just to clarify...I will be providing the prize for at least one challenge ... I will be fishing this set up Friday in the Moro Bay Virg's Landing Ling Cod tournament...Seeker S870-7' (new tip)...Penn 505HS new stock gear sleeve, new reel base, new HT100 drags, new Berkley 30# Big Game Mono...I will retire this set up until next JUNE, 2015, then it will be a prize...I have about $48.00 total in this rig!!! Maybe it can be a perpetual prize and the winner has to modify each year? Just a thought. And just to let you know ...It's not for sale ;D
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hey, i have friday off. tell me about the tournament!
Quote from: alantani on August 27, 2014, 01:57:24 AM
hey, i have friday off. tell me about the tournament!
Princess: 6am to 4pm $89...Let's do this thing Alan...I have a single queen room for thursday!!! I think you have my # ??? The biggest fish of the week goes into a drawing for Dec. 6th. and the 1st. place is 50% of $1.00 per person that has fished out of Virg's for the whole season!!! Over $3000.00?? 2nd & 3rd pays as well...Crap shoot at best, but if you get the fish of the week then you are 1 of 30 in the drawing!
Quote from: alantani on August 27, 2014, 01:57:24 AM
hey, i have friday off. tell me about the tournament!
Call your brother...Let's fish ?
crud, can't. too much junk going on as usual........ >:(
Alan you should have went today ;D ;D ;D my 500 & 505hs performed flawlessly ... If you look closely the small Ling in front has tooth marks! That's a 10# Ling trying to be swallowed by??? Took me into the rocks, broke off my lower jig and 60# line then let go 1/2 up >:( >:( >:(
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And this wasn't close to the big fish of the day...Slugs hittin' the decks today :o :o :o
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And the 20.5 Jack Pot!
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Today was a good day! I think I will fair out ok in the Vintage Penn Challenge ;D ;D ;D
Not if you wear that Avet Hat! :D
Maybe throw a Penn hat in with the combo or as a runner up prize?
Lee, you didn't need an old 349 with that nice hxj.
Good deal with your hand, is the truck doing better too?
Quote from: MarkT on September 08, 2014, 03:04:14 AM
Good deal with your hand, is the truck doing better too?
I sold the F-150 to a friend's grandson and took that $ and the money the insurance gave me and bought a 2000 double cab short box F-250 diesel.
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on August 26, 2014, 12:42:25 AM
Hmmmm......
A Jigmaster challenge or a Penn challenge? There must be rules in any contest: :-\
For a Jigmaster challenge:
Rule #1 Reel must be based on a 500 or 501
Rule #2 USA-made only
Rule #3 No more rules ;D
For a Penn challenge:
Rule #1 Single speed Penns only, made in USA
Rule #2 No Penn Internationals
Rule #3 ???
Who's next?
If you are allowing Jigmasters with aftermarket parts, try one of these Accurate Magnums, which incorporate the drive train from the 113H Senator including Accurate 4:1 stainless gears. Load it up with 80 lb. braid and you are good to go for anything that you are likely to encounter on your 5 or 6-day trips. I have several to sell in red or gold and 99 or 500 width. I also have a 4/0 Magnum with the 114H drive train.
That would be a reel for the "unlimited class", I'm putting together a stock 501 for the Challenge.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on October 17, 2014, 04:35:45 PM
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on August 26, 2014, 12:42:25 AM
Hmmmm......
A Jigmaster challenge or a Penn challenge? There must be rules in any contest: :-\
For a Jigmaster challenge:
Rule #1 Reel must be based on a 500 or 501
Rule #2 USA-made only
Rule #3 No more rules ;D
For a Penn challenge:
Rule #1 Single speed Penns only, made in USA
Rule #2 No Penn Internationals
Rule #3 ???
Who's next?
If you are allowing Jigmasters with aftermarket parts, try one of these Accurate Magnums, which incorporate the drive train from the 113H Senator including Accurate 4:1 stainless gears. Load it up with 80 lb. braid and you are good to go for anything that you are likely to encounter on your 5 or 6-day trips. I have several to sell in red or gold and 99 or 500 width. I also have a 4/0 Magnum with the 114H drive train.
Will the 113H bridge screws work? I am helping a friend put one together for another friend. Basically, only I was provided with frame, spool, sideplates with bearing caps and that is it. I'm using a 113h yoke with a 500 eccentric. My last remaining issue is my bridge plate screws are too short the thickness of the bridgeplate. I only have jigmaster bridgeplate screw so I'm hoping that 113h bridge plate screws will work because I can cockroach them from Alan T. :D
Bryan, I do not do any of my own reel work, so please take what I have to say with a grain of salt, but I'm pretty sure that the stock Jigmaster bridge screws will work because I just pulled the bridge screws out of a Magnum and they appear to be Jigmaster screws. Also, I do not think that your 113H yoke is going to work, as I believe that the hole spacing is to long to fit the Accurate Magnum sideplate. The yoke that Accurate supplied with the kit was the Jigmaster yoke with the arc for the pinion gear enlarged to accommodate the larger 113H gear. If you do not have one of these special yokes, you can grind out a stock Jigmaster yoke to the larger diameter. Finally, it doesn't sound like you have the shield that goes over the open portion of the main gear case that protrudes below the edge of the side plate. You will need to fabricate something to cover this gap to prevent saltwater intrusion. Good luck with the project.
Randy
Thanks Randy.
Once I can get it all put together, I'll post something. The build has been interesting and challenging at the same time.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on October 17, 2014, 10:04:02 PM
Bryan, I do not do any of my own reel work, so please take what I have to say with a grain of salt, but I'm pretty sure that the stock Jigmaster bridge screws will work because I just pulled the bridge screws out of a Magnum and they appear to be Jigmaster screws. Also, I do not think that your 113H yoke is going to work, as I believe that the hole spacing is to long to fit the Accurate Magnum sideplate. The yoke that Accurate supplied with the kit was the Jigmaster yoke with the arc for the pinion gear enlarged to accommodate the larger 113H gear. If you do not have one of these special yokes, you can grind out a stock Jigmaster yoke to the larger diameter. Finally, it doesn't sound like you have the shield that goes over the open portion of the main gear case that protrudes below the edge of the side plate. You will need to fabricate something to cover this gap to prevent saltwater intrusion. Good luck with the project.
Randy
Wow! -- Sounds like you ought to be doing some of your own work, Randy...Good analysis,
Best,
Fred
Thanks for the kind words Fred. I'm OK with the theory, but unfortunately when it comes to putting it to work, I'm all thumbs. Every time that I take the right side plate of a reel apart, little springs go flying in every direction and I wind up putting all of the parts in a shoebox and taking it to one of my more talented friends.
Randy, I knew there were magnum versions of the Jigmaster and Squidder but had no idea that there was a 4/0 Magnum. I can't believe I didn't realize it before now. It makes perfect sense. If you would, could you post a photo of it? I'm sure that there are others here that would be as interested in seeing it as I am. Thanks..
After Cedros, I have very little use for mono. Braid with floro is the way for me.
Ron
Quote from: noyb72 on October 18, 2014, 01:14:41 AM
After Cedros, I have very little use for mono. Braid with floro is the way for me.
Ron
Ron: It wont matter...I'm going to win the challenge anyways, you can fish anything you want ;D ;D ;D Brother ;D ;D ;D And how bout them Giant's!!!
Quote from: doradoben on October 18, 2014, 12:35:13 AM
Randy, I knew there were magnum versions of the Jigmaster and Squidder but had no idea that there was a 4/0 Magnum. I can't believe I didn't realize it before now. It makes perfect sense. If you would, could you post a photo of it? I'm sure that there are others here that would be as interested in seeing it as I am. Thanks..
No problem Ben. Here goes:
Randy, are the one and only vintage tackle guy at the fred hall show? I talked with you over the phone regarding any PG255s.
In either case, good to have you aboard.
Quote from: Big Tim on August 27, 2014, 01:10:51 AM
Quote from: doradoben on August 26, 2014, 01:38:42 AM
Rob posted some rules, but I'm not sure that I understand. ??? Is this challenge, catch the biggest fish, win all of the liquor? ;)
If I can actually remember all the booze that was on that trip? It would be one heck of a haul ;D ;D ;D
Dude, if you can remember all the booze on the trip you didn't have enough! I'm sure Ed probably doesn't remember all he had!
Quote from: Bryan Young on October 18, 2014, 02:14:28 AM
Randy, are the one and only vintage tackle guy at the fred hall show? I talked with you over the phone regarding any PG255s.
In either case, good to have you aboard.
That's me Bryan. My booth name is Vintage Offshore Tackle. I remember talking with you, and I really appreciate your kind words. I'm sorry to say that I still don't have any PG255s. I do have a couple of beautiful Pro Gears, the newer style Wahoo Special and a 540 Albacore Special. I also have a new in the box Pacifica 2000, but that's about it for Pro Gears for me at the moment. It's fantastic to see what you and Alan have put together with this website, and it's great to know that there are so many people who enjoy the old school reels.
Thanks again,
Randy
Wow, very nice would be an an understatement . Thanks again for posting the photos, Randy..
It's a bummer Lee won't be joining us this next June >:( But how about Randy and all his Vintage Offshore Tackle ;D ;D ;D Or ??? I am looking forward to the trip and if all works out I will be doing something special to the winning prize ;D
Now that I am officially allowed by the wife to go on this trip I want to resurrect this thread. Biggest fish on penn reel with a basic design that dates back before 1980?
Senator, jigmaster, etc. No baja specials but yellow tail specials and other aftermarkets are fine. All after market and custom work allowed.
I am willing to donate to the cause. Penn 155 with NOS teflon drags for the winner to install.
A Baja is out but a Magnum Jigmaster is in?
The judge is gonna lose his mind on this venture.
Hey congrats Mr. McKinney, have fun.
I don't make the rules, it's jiust a suggestion. But the magnum is vintage a Baja special ain't vintage, IMHO.
Ah, now I get your point.
I was just making an observation on how confusing it could become.
Don't mind me, I'm staying home....