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General Maintenance Tips => Fishing Antiques and Collectables => Topic started by: cdaline on October 19, 2020, 02:54:38 AM

Title: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: cdaline on October 19, 2020, 02:54:38 AM
Found this little Mitchell open faced spinner this weekend at the
swap meet. Pressure washed, scrubbed, de-greased, oiled, greased.
Mid-fifties, pre-Garcia, pre-300 imprints. Works as if new. Quality
vintage reel. I gave $5. Came hanging on a nice Daiwa rod. A cool,
lucky find. 8)

Charles
https://imgur.com/a/SbR1jKo
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: whalebreath on October 19, 2020, 02:58:13 AM
Love this shot!

(https://i.imgur.com/HlGlseU.jpeg)
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: cdaline on October 19, 2020, 03:09:04 AM
yep ! that pic still causes me to twitch... ;D

Charles
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: Gfish on October 19, 2020, 03:46:14 AM
Very nice find, all the way around. Do you think the grease helped preserve it?
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: philaroman on October 19, 2020, 04:07:50 AM
sweet reel...  what's the "nice Daiwa rod" -- modern or old?
did you you luck into that old orange-brown Daiwa glass?
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: cdaline on October 19, 2020, 04:12:16 AM
Gfish..
I'm guessing the total overload on grease packing
led to the above average preservation of this reel. When
I initially tried to turn the crank....it would barely budge. But,
not like metal on metal stoppage... just like heavy sludge.
I quickly stopped until I could get a direct view of the gears.
A survivor.

Philaroman...
Wpw ! You describe it exactly. Good guess.  I'll try to
add photos to the spread tomorrow.

Charles
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on October 19, 2020, 04:17:25 AM
Quote from: philaroman on October 19, 2020, 04:07:50 AM
sweet reel...  what's the "nice Daiwa rod" -- modern or old?
did you you luck into that old orange-brown Daiwa glass?

There may or may not be a store near me that has a lot of used gear, with a solid handful.of old orange-brown daiwa glass rods. Is there something to them? Should I go pick up a few?
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: philaroman on October 19, 2020, 04:39:40 AM
it's good Japanese(?) thin-wall glass -- "Fenwicky"  (albeit, the guides are "budgetty" & too few)

don't like the handles/seats that much, but they seem more durable than the guides

screams, "REBUILD ME!!!" louder than a stock old Fenwick does ;D

I believe, lighter F/W rods & Surf Rods get some love

heavier/shorter stuff, not so much (not bad -- just less interesting)
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on October 19, 2020, 02:42:37 PM
Quote from: philaroman on October 19, 2020, 04:39:40 AM
...guides are "budgetty" & too few...

Man i keep getting these mixed signals about the importance of # of guides on a rod...

Might go pick up one to play with. I need a new rebuild project now that the penn is mostly done
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: oldmanjoe on October 19, 2020, 03:10:21 PM
Quote from: Gfish on October 19, 2020, 03:46:14 AM
Very nice find, all the way around. Do you think the grease helped preserve it?
I think it helps preserves the price of the reel for sure. :)
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: philaroman on October 19, 2020, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: JasonGotaPenn on October 19, 2020, 02:42:37 PM
Quote from: philaroman on October 19, 2020, 04:39:40 AM
...guides are "budgetty" & too few...

Man i keep getting these mixed signals about the importance of # of guides on a rod...

Might go pick up one to play with. I need a new rebuild project now that the penn is mostly done

on many old rods, esp. the more affordable (in their time) spinners, you can just look & tell
that the scant number of guides was a pure budget decision...  nothing to do w/ functionality
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: wfjord on October 19, 2020, 05:08:56 PM
Quote from: oldmanjoe on October 19, 2020, 03:10:21 PM
Quote from: Gfish on October 19, 2020, 03:46:14 AM
Very nice find, all the way around. Do you think the grease helped preserve it?
I think it helps preserves the price of the reel for sure. :)

I'd agree.  Reels I've acquired that were packed with old sludgy and hard grease usually turned out to be nice, smooth working reels after getting them cleaned them up.
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: steelfish on October 19, 2020, 05:46:05 PM
Quote from: whalebreath on October 19, 2020, 02:58:13 AM
Love this shot!

(https://i.imgur.com/HlGlseU.jpeg)

Yay !!  that pic reminded me when I used to clean the ears to my kids when they were toddlers.
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: philaroman on October 19, 2020, 08:09:19 PM
seriously?  where did they play -- a condemned refinery?
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: steelfish on October 19, 2020, 08:21:19 PM
Quote from: cdaline on October 19, 2020, 02:54:38 AM
Found this little Mitchell open faced spinner this weekend at the
swap meet. Pressure washed, scrubbed, de-greased, oiled, greased.
Mid-fifties, pre-Garcia, pre-300 imprints. Works as if new. Quality
vintage reel. I gave $5. Came hanging on a nice Daiwa rod. A cool,
lucky find. 8)

Charles
https://imgur.com/a/SbR1jKo

I know that feeling.

I found a Penn Baja Special reel in a milk crater along with some old 113, few 113h and other old blacky penn reels, surely the seller didnt knew about that specific reel thought that it was on the same category of those reels, the reel was really badly scratched out but other than that it was in good shape, I got it for $20 dlls, now it has a new frame, new handle and upgraded with Tom's antireverse assembly... when I heard the price of the reel I just took it, paid and ran but forgot to ask for the rest of the reels in the milk crate.
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: Gobi King on October 19, 2020, 09:11:17 PM
Did ya follow hazmat guidelines in disposing of those yucky looking curd  :o
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: cdaline on October 22, 2020, 07:41:48 PM
Philaroman....

I added the Diawa rod the Mitchell was hung on.... pretty "whippy",
and the glass is almost translucent. Seems to be in pretty good shape.
I believe this is one of the keepers you described earlier in the post.

Charles
https://imgur.com/a/SbR1jKo
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: philaroman on October 22, 2020, 08:35:50 PM
SWEET!!!
I vaguely remember that blank on UL's w/ crappier components, gaudy threadwork,
actual UL specs & something other than "SUPERLITE UL"
(maybe, 8-15# 0.5-1.5oz. is supposed to be S/W UL ???)
anyway, yours looks nicer & heavier & less common, than I remember

also, don't want to mislead Jason & others -- would you second my description as "Fenwicky"?
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: Reeltyme on October 22, 2020, 10:53:43 PM
I have 2, 7' 2pc Diawa glass spinning rods I purchased when I was 19 years old. I'm now 62! I still fish them and they still work and bring in the fish! They are a grey translucent color. I did have "new" guides put on them about 30 years ago,,, or so, but didn't change the number of guides on them. I'd say they hold up pretty well.
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: philaroman on October 22, 2020, 11:13:10 PM
I think, maybe oldest Daiwa Spinmatic rods were grey Japanese glass...  also desirable, esp. UL
Title: Re: Put down the grease gun and step away from the reel...
Post by: cdaline on October 23, 2020, 12:09:38 AM
Philaroman....

As to "Fenwicky".... I do not believe I could pass a blind taste
test.  ;D...but, I only have one 80's Fenwick. Others mileage
may vary. I do know, I paid a lot more for the Fenwick .  ::)

Charles