i've had the old style grips for 6 years. a change was long overdue. i finally found a machine shop that could give me a handle grip with a continuous curve. it is a little more expensive, but i am going to keep the prices the same for now. to give you an idea of what they look like, here is a photo of the old grips and the new ones. left to right, the old style 6/0 grip, then the new style 5/0 grip, then then new style 3/0 grip, and then the old style 2/0 grip. the old hot-dog style 4/0 grip is not shown. it's taken some doing, but i am really happy with the new design. there is absolutely no difference in the function of the new grips. they work just the same. it's just that i like the look of the new grip so much more. i will post some photos of the available arms later.
so it's $27 for the 3/0 grip and $33 for the 5/0 grip, then figure $3 shipping for each. thanks! alan
(http://alantani.com/gallery/8/1_16_05_13_2_35_08.jpeg)
I must agree, they are NICE to see, NICE to hold.
What! No hot dogs? :D I'll forgive you for not having it in the picture. I don't know if I'll need many more, but I use the 4/0-size the most. I like the rounded shape of the new grips though.
the 3/0 grip is closer in size to the old 4/0. i decided to go with only two sizes of grip from now on.
I had to go see Alan a couple of weeks ago and he showed me the new handles. They are a cut above the old models. Not only do they look better but they feel better in your hand. I don't need any right now but I will order some in the future. Dominick
I thought I saw and felt a difference. The old ones were nice, the new ones are nicer.
Quote from: alantani on May 23, 2013, 04:54:32 PM
the 3/0 grip is closer in size to the old 4/0. i decided to go with only two sizes of grip from now on.
I'll order some of each when my current stock of Kolekars are used up. Do the new grips have a name?
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on May 23, 2013, 04:45:09 PM
What! No hot dogs? :D I'll forgive you for not having it in the picture. I don't know if I'll need many more, but I use the 4/0-size the most. I like the rounded shape of the new grips though.
I have a few hotdogs that are installed on my reels, and never used yet. Let me know if you want them...so I can upgrade to the new 5/0 ;D
I like them on my 112H, they are smaller but so is the reel.
They look nice but I ordered 3 Tiburons Monday. Oh well.
Quote from: Bryan Young on May 23, 2013, 05:24:46 PM
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on May 23, 2013, 04:45:09 PM
What! No hot dogs? :D I'll forgive you for not having it in the picture. I don't know if I'll need many more, but I use the 4/0-size the most. I like the rounded shape of the new grips though.
I have a few hotdogs that are installed on my reels, and never used yet. Let me know if you want them...so I can upgrade to the new 5/0 ;D
Hmmmmm..... A good hot dog goes for $4 with all the fixin's ..... ;D ;D
Do theses have the offset also?
yes, the same 9 degree offset as the old ones.
Alan, could you please recommend a handle size for a Torium 30? I just ordered some smooth drag washers for it and some new bearings from Dawn so it is going to be a heck of a reel here real soon.
going after big fish? get the 5/0. some more reasonable? try the 3/0. personally, i put the larger grips on all of my reels, but i'm optimistic!
I have these on my Shimano 30 II's. It has been terrible weather here so I haven't had a chance to use them real world but they are damn nice and feel great.
G'day Alan,
Like the look of the new grips, will probably be up for some soon. Does this mean though that you no longer do the spinning reel grip with the smaller OD shaft?
Just a point that you may consider with your grips in the future, don't know if it has been mentioned here or not before. I had trouble gripping the shaft without marking it in order to tighten the grip onto the reel. Any chance the new version could have some small flats machined on the shaft so a small spanner could be used to stop it rotating while trying to tighten? I know this would add to the cost but I reckon would be worthwhile.
Cheers
Jason
I use an allen wrench at each end to tighten the grip on the handle arm. ;)
Quote from: Jason Groombridge on June 12, 2013, 12:44:03 PM
Like the look of the new grips, will probably be up for some soon. Does this mean though that you no longer do the spinning reel grip with the smaller OD shaft?
Spinner grips are still available, but we currently have limited quantities.
Was able to use them yesterday. These handles are fantastic on my TLD's. Highly recommend them. We caught Blackfin and Mahi on them and they worked great. Very comfortable.
Thanks Rob and Bryan,
Feel a bit stupid now, I should have thought about putting an allen key in each end of the grip to tighten it.
Cheers
Jason
Guys did you ever think the 6/0 grip would look this tiny? ;D
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/parts/003_zps1cc0283a.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/parts/003_zps1cc0283a.jpg.html)
Nice craftsmanship Alan, thank you!
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on June 15, 2013, 01:10:37 PM
Guys did you ever think the 6/0 grip would look this tiny? ;D
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/parts/003_zps1cc0283a.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/parts/003_zps1cc0283a.jpg.html)
Nice craftsmanship Alan, thank you!
Sal
It does look tiny. Until you realize that the reel is big enough to have a chair of its own. :)
I want one ;D
Quote from: sigfla on June 07, 2013, 01:35:51 AM
I have these on my Shimano 30 II's. It has been terrible weather here so I haven't had a chance to use them real world but they are damn nice and feel great.
What size did you install? Any pictures?
Alan, I'm still interested in picking up a handle for my Shimano TLD 30 II plus those other parts we spoke of. Really busy at work so give me a few days and I'll contact you again.
Thanks!!
Robert
My Daiwa 900H with new handle & carbontex drag washers fitted.
Quote from: MFB on October 06, 2013, 08:42:43 AM
My Daiwa 900H with new handle & carbontex drag washers fitted.
Welcome aboard! I also have a 900H with the Alan Tani CF drag. My handle arrived this week. Nice to see how it's going to look; I like it.
I'd like to put your 5-0 handle grips on my old star drag Torque 300 as well as my Penn 12VSX and 16VSX. Would I be able to install these with an allen wrench? If not, what tools would I need?
Thank you for your help,
JD
you just need standard size allen wrenchres and you'll be fine...i have the 2nd gen and love them...
Excellent. I'll send in an order for 3 of these. Any specific recommendations for, say, Loctite?
i don't use loctite, i just tighten it as tight as possible. but if you prefer to use some type of glue, i highly recommend tamiya (for RC use). used it when i was into radio controlled. tested and proven on off-road buggies (rc of course). tight lines!
I use the blue Loctite, as I have had some problems with some aftermarket knobs coming un buttoned in the heat of battle , not a good feeling :'( The blue Loctite is easy to brake free for service.
i've also used the blue loctite but probably it's just a matter of preference i prefer the tamiya.
Ah Yes,
The Tamiya Slime! Know it well! ;D
I have 2 years of use on 4 of these handles and they just keep working lke new..!!
Quote from: handi2 on November 17, 2013, 12:32:26 AM
I have 2 years of use on 4 of these handles and they just keep working lke new..!!
Great! What reels?
Alan...
What options (if any) do you have or could you recommend to replace handles, or preferably just the knobs(using existing stock arms) on larger penn senators (9,12,&14/0)? I'm looking for a cost effective (<$40 typical total replacement cost) means of replacing excessively worn handles on larger senators. Also, do you have any recommendations as to how to acquire replacement clicker rings (no part#) new, new-old stock, or used) clicker rings for 12+14/0 senators? Similar to part 62-114H2 on the 115L2 (Senator 2 9/0).
If you have SS-offset-T-bars, or offset rubber, or even non-offset lightweight plastic polymer, or anything that I can bolt on to existing 12/0 +14/0 handle arms for a resonable price (say under $25 ea.). I'd like to order at least 4 of each. I might be interested in a couple complete handle sets (if they're under ($40 ea.?) as well.
if you just want to replace the handle grip, go with the 5/0 grip and drill out the old grip, i have a handle arm for the 6/0 senator. not sure if that arm will fit on the larger gear sleeves. i don't work with these larger reels that often.
anyone else know if the 6/0 arm will fit on these larger reels? :-\
As I recally, the handle arm openings on the larger reels are the same size as the 6/0. I think Penn standardized this.
Thanks for the info guys!
Alan, Your handles look like high quality stuff but I think I'm gonna start by experimenting w/a few cheaper ($15-$25) replacement handle knobs designed for the 115 for now. I should have enough stock handle arms to get me started (I'll start w/2-14/0s, &4-12/0s). Will definately keep your products in mind though!
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 18, 2013, 07:57:17 AM
As I recally, the handle arm openings on the larger reels are the same size as the 6/0. I think Penn standardized this.
The 6/0 will fit the 9/0, but not anything bigger. The sleeves are larger on the 116 and up.
The sleeves are larger...are the handle opening larger as well? I though they were down sized and have the same opening as the 6/0 and 9/0.
As you can see in the picture Bryan, here are my most recent handles from Lee. The 12/0 handles are on the left. 114H on the right. The 116's are bigger hole.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2129_zps82a27785.jpg)
Ok...I cannot tell... :o I need a reel in hand to measure. If Alan wants to produce a stock handle configuration for those reels, I'll gladly draw it up.
I think the handle knob openings are the same size. I just ordered 4 aftermarket ones at $15 ea., so I'll let you know for sure in a few days.
Unless penn standardized these in recent production reels. You are going to be disappointed. I mainly have older chrome bronze spools senators. The 6/0 handle wont fit a 12/0. Only the 9/0. Unless a custom sleeve has been installed. Maybe this picture is a little better to put it into perspective. My micrometer has a dead battery, so I can't use that to show you. The 6/0 (114H handle) is roughly 3/8" wide on the flat opening, the 12,14,and 16 handle is almost 1/2" wide.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2132_zpsbea32c82.jpg)
Thanks...looks like I'll be drawing up another handle arm...
Got my $15 handle knobs. They were all designed for the 114. They fit the stock 115 handle arm w/o mods, the 116 needed a small collar, and the 117 needed the larger color to match the inside handle arm diameter. Do your reel knobs come with these shims Alan?
Like I said in my previous post. The 114H handle is good for the 114 and 115. Not the 116 and up. I don't know what collars you are speaking of, but Alan's handles fit the handle end, not the sleeve end.
Lee makes some bad #### handle arms for these that you can use Alan's handles on. :)
Greetings Alan,
I have a customer who wants a handle and arm for a Penn 10/0...
Can you ship me the best fit for that.
Thanks!
Rick's Reel Service
16032 Stur St.
Masaryktown, Fl 34604
Rick,
I don't think Alan makes a handle arm for a 10/0. He just makes the handle. There is a gentlemen on here named Lee that does. You can find him in Keta's Kustom Parts. If you just want a stock handle, I can fix you up. This is one of Lee's custom arms with Alan's handle on the left.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_21941_zps6fabd96b.jpg)
It looks like the setup on the left is what my customer might be looking for...
Can you PM me a price, or should I go ahead and contact Lee to see if he has the complete setup.
I would hate to have to pay two shipping charges!
Thanks!
I had to pay two shipping charges for mine Rick. Its not cheap being cool.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on January 02, 2014, 11:02:58 PM
I had to pay two shipping charges for mine Rick. Its not cheap being cool.
I don't know about "cool" but function is what this is all about. Longer arm outta #### kickin SS. And an awsome handle which is all about ergonomic's. This combo can't be beat!
Function + Ergonomics + Looks = Cool 8)
Quote from: Shark Hunter on January 03, 2014, 01:05:43 AM
Function + Ergonomics + Looks = Cool 8)
My man Daron: Mr. cool. Maybe you ought to change your avatar to a photo of you in sunglasses. ;D Dominick
Rick,
I am sure you know this but Lee and Alan do a service for all of us and they have the lowest shipping rates around. If you were able to buy both of these parts from a "reel" business in one transaction, I'll bet your total shipping rates from Lee & Alan would be a lower shipping rate.
TomT
I have one (so far) Keta Krank, and the price was low enough that I was almost embarrassed. And that included shipping.
As for Alan's handles, they're reasonably priced as well, and his shipping charges are also negligible. It's pretty apparent to me that these guys are doing this because they love it. They're sure not getting rich!
I offered Rick a 10/0, 3 hole Keta Krank and a 5/0 handle of Alan's with the counterbored spindle for $50.
I think that's more than he wants to spend.
Not necessarily....
All of these posts have happened in the evening here on the east coast. I have yet to reach my customer.
I will contact him today and see what he is willing to pay. I am not interested in marking anything up for him...he sends me lots of work. I just want to put a good handle blank and handle together for his 10/0.
Thanks so far for all you interest...it seems like a stock handle may even be in the works....
Understood Rick.
Here is that handle with the Barrel Grip.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22101_zps5f9ea368.jpg)
I would be keen on a longer arm for my 900H, does anybody make them?
Rgds
Mark
Mark/MFB, are your referring to the Daiwa 900H? If the handle for the 900h is the same as the Daiwa 600h, then the Penn 114 aka 6/0 handle is a perfect fit. Keta (on this forum in the for sale section) makes some nice handles. Also ebay has Daiwa 600h and Penn 114 (same thing) handles/griip combo's for sale. Just do an ebay search for Daiwa 600 handle. Hope this helps.
Leo
Hi Leo,
Yes, but the 900H is bigger than the 600H, it maybe the same size as a 9/0, but I'm not sure. Already have Alan's drag upgrade & oversize handle grip on this. A longer handle would be the icing on the cake.
Rgds
Mark
Quote from: LTM on January 03, 2014, 07:56:41 PM
Mark/MFB, are your referring to the Daiwa 900H? If the handle for the 900h is the same as the Daiwa 600h, then the Penn 114 aka 6/0 handle is a perfect fit. Keta (on this forum in the for sale section) makes some nice handles. Also ebay has Daiwa 600h and Penn 114 (same thing) handles/griip combo's for sale. Just do an ebay search for Daiwa 600 handle. Hope this helps.
Leo
I'm glad I've been following this discussion. When I finish my current project, I'm going to install the 5+1 carbon fiber drags and double dog my 600H. I already have one of the Kolekar grips.
Alan,
Some of my recent Kolekar grips are binding and get slightly stuck when rotating around. How do I take the grips apart to oil/grease and fix these problems?
Thanx,
Leo
You need the correct size allen wrench to loosen the handle screw. Then you can separate the handle sleeve. Its probably dirty in there or dry and needs a little oil.
Here is one of my toys..."ol skool" 2/0 handle from Alan...awesome!
Quote from: planks5 on March 04, 2014, 04:53:50 AM
Here is one of my toys..."ol skool" 2/0 handle from Alan...awesome!
Looks great! Thanks for sharing
I love the arm for the handle on that reel. Hmmmm I wonder if Keta could make some like that ??? ;D
Bob, thats the factory Saltiga handle.
Leo
And I think it's aluminium.
Quote from: BMITCH on March 04, 2014, 04:25:43 PM
I love the arm for the handle on that reel. Hmmmm I wonder if Keta could make some like that ??? ;D
Quote from: LTM on March 04, 2014, 05:09:42 PM
Bob, thats the factory Saltiga handle.
Quote from: Irish Jigger on March 04, 2014, 05:13:17 PM
And I think it's aluminium.
Yes, I wonder it Lee can make that arm is stainless steel. Lee?? :D
Al, my point exactly. I know they offset or bend the arm in to reduce torque under load, right? Wouldn't it be great for say the penn jigmasters and 112h.
Funny, Alan and I were just discussing that yesterday...we would need a press and a jig to do that, and then factory in the bend...is it done heated or cold? it would then depend on the type of metal...and then we tabled that idea for now.
It would be cool 8) that would mean I would have to change some arms again!
Alan,
I'd like to move some stuff around. I currently have an older style 2/0 handle grip with the SS Newell arm on my Newell 332. I think I'd like to move this 2/0 handle over to my PG 255 and put a 3/0 handle on the Newell 332 instead. As you can see from the attached picture the 2/0 handle has this little nipple (green circle) at the end which I need to transfer to the 3/0 (red circle). Are the screws (red arrows) standard turn or reverse thread? I assume I secure the circle part while turning the screw? Sorry, don't have the parts in front of me.
I don't mean to cut in here, but they are standard turn bobsled. I have quite a few of them. Just make sure your allen wrench fits good. Alan puts them down tight! >:(
No worries. Thanks for the help shark hunter.
Hi Alan,
I need a few more handles. Any more of the old style 2/0? Just wondering before I place my order.
TIA
I don't believe Alan has an 2/0 handles. I may have a couple. Please send me a PM to remind me to look.
Bryan,
Sent.
Bryan,
Did you get a chance to see if you have the 2/0 handle grips?
I have three Shiamno 8000D Baitrunners with knobs that are very tight, one just about frozen. I've tried TSI, WD40, mineral spirits and Reel X but nothing is helping. Any suggestions to get them free or should I replace the knobs? If replacing knobs, what will work?
Thx, Jim
for spinners, the handles from smoothdrag.com might work best.
Thank you Alan!
Quote from: Shark Hunter on November 18, 2013, 09:55:16 PM
As you can see in the picture Bryan, here are my most recent handles from Lee. The 12/0 handles are on the left. 114H on the right. The 116's are bigger hole.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2129_zps82a27785.jpg)
What is the handle in the MIDDLE ?
I like the "beefier" area where the Grip attaches !
Thanks !
I would like a handle and grip for a Penn 113H are there any available?
got a bunch. typically i would use a 5/0 grip with a stainless steel arm. send me pm and we'll figure out what works best for you.
Quote from: ez2cdave on December 06, 2014, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on November 18, 2013, 09:55:16 PM
As you can see in the picture Bryan, here are my most recent handles from Lee. The 12/0 handles are on the left. 114H on the right. The 116's are bigger hole.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2129_zps82a27785.jpg)
What is the handle in the MIDDLE ?
I like the "beefier" area where the Grip attaches !
Thanks !
Its just a different design 9/0 Handle from Lee. I'm pretty sure these are going to be extinct.
Really impressed with Alan's grip! I first bought it for my Pro Gear 545, but moved that new handle to the Yellowtail Special and is a much better fit.
I agree, the 3/0 is better for the 545. (Though we're on a 2 year old thread, lol).
oops! :D
Quote from: Rancanfish on November 18, 2017, 01:04:27 AM
I agree, the 3/0 is better for the 545. (Though we're on a 2 year old thread, lol).
Good to see new life breathed into the old thread.