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Time to add to this thread.
picked up this during the week.
Pretty sure I've identified it right,
150 yard Seahawk, waffle clicker, a fair bit of patina, but it fills a gap in my collection,
excuse photo quality.
I luv these small yard oldies.
Col
Nice find ! I try to hit lots of yard sales / junk sales when I;m down here on the island....hunting for fishing equipment.....but so far , this winter, it's been a "bust".
Thanks, I think that's the handle that I had previously associated with only the Bridge City.... so this is new for me.
Very nice find. I love the old seascapes on the side plates.
I'd love to find some of the old original Penn drawings.
-g
Hi there,
Here's an unusual reel I found a while ago - a late 1937 model 42 - yes, they do exist, even if there is no mention in the '37 catalogue.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/8447_25_07_19_12_45_23.jpeg)
At first glance it looks like the other '37 seahawks, but wait!!
(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/8447_25_07_19_12_44_39.jpeg)
As can be seen from this photo, the logo reads 'patented'
(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/8447_25_07_19_12_46_07.jpeg)
here is the reel foot - clearly marked '150 yds'
(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/8447_25_07_19_12_47_18.jpeg)
This is the 'money' shot - this engraving is very similar to what is found on all later model 42's, but from a slightly different perspective.
the reel also does not have the outer 'grove' as found on later 42's.
I believe that this is the first time a small conventional reel was produced by Penn with an engraved back plate - the '37 12/0 Senator being the first, but on a larger reel.
Enjoy
Martin
Great find !!
Drool worthy...Bill
Nice find Martin,
The big tell tail that it's a 37, is indeed the 3 post configuration, and the introduction of a scalloped handle nut, without fixing screw, which only happened for that year. Up till 37, all Sea Hawks were of a pull out handle nature, so in 37, a new bridge plate was installed. The patented head plate is in my later 4 post Sea Hawk, so that was consistent. It's an interesting Tail plate without that recess, very nice. There was also the fact that the 36 model sea Hawk, never made it to the sales floor in 37, because the new bridge assembly wouldn't fit the smaller side plates, so it was classed as a discontinued model. Mikes book has a good write up on the 37 Sea Hawk, along with his mention, that it was significant..
nice find...
Col
The easy tell tale is the 3 post configuration (as you mentioned) ...with black side plates. It's the first time the sea hawk was wearing black, and she never wore burgundy again.
Dom
Anyone have 100 yd Sea Hawk?
I just picked one up, but can't post photos.
Let me know if anyone wants an email of photos to post for me here.
If not, no worries, just never saw one before and wanted to share a tough find with all.
Thanks
Dom
Definitely need some photo's of this puppy Dom ;D
Col
Pix from Dom:
and one more:
Thanks for posting the photos up for me, Arlyn
Also, thanks to Mike (MHC) for offering as well.
Anybody have one or seen a 100 yd'er? This one purrs like a kitten.
The seller sent me a note that they paid $1 at a yard sale for it. :o
Thanks guys,
Dom
Steve, I will take a photo of reels next to it for comparison and send it to Arlyn to post if he will do it one more time for me.
It's super narrow even though it doesn't look it due to nothing to scale it to.
Stay tuned,
Dom
It's a little guy, that's for sure !
Glad to post them, Dom !
Also Dom, does it have a pull-out-the-handle free spool clutch? If so, it would be my dream reel.
There should be a legit name for that clutch.
-steve
Yes, it does have that pull out handle, free spool, clutch thing, lol.
I changed the name of who posted the photos for me... I stuffed up! ;)
Thanks
Dom
Wow! Sweet reel Dom! What a find! 8)
Cooool.
Would love to see the guts on the pull-out handle penns like these. Hint, hint.
This is a #15 that I just received, but it's the "same", as far as the free spool feature: I'm no good at putting "captions" with each individual pic, so, I'll try to explain it all, first.
The "main gear / drive shaft" is all one piece, and you can see the two "grooves" around the shaft. These are the grooves that the "detent" snaps into. The detent is nothing more than a spring loaded "plunger", that locates into the grooves....one for "free spool" position, and one for "engaged" position. The metal housing ,that both supports the main shaft, and holds the "detent", DOES have a "hex" shape...but, it DOESN'T unscrew! Although, whoever had this one tried :-[, and pretty well "buggered" the face plate, in the process !
Note that the gearing isn't "constant mesh", so, when shifting" the spool into "gear" (the "in" position for the shaft), the main gear has to "find" the teeth on the pinion gear....so, if the spool was spinning" (maybe that "big one" that hit as soon as the lure touched down :P), there would be a certain amount of "gear clashing". As was pointed out, the "angled" gear teeth, besides providing a more constant contact as the gears rotate, also help to get the to "mesh together" without "grinding".
I actually fish two of this "style", in freshwater, for smallmouth (throwing old style spinner baits), and , I fish them "backwards", so the are Left hand crank. Done that way, any great amount of pressure on the spool tends to force the gears apart...or, into neutral...instead of forcing them to"stay meshed" (as if it was fished "right handed"). I will say that I haven't had any issues with it "popping out of gear", which probably says more about the dinky fish I catch, than it does about the ability of the "detent" to hold the shaft in place ::).
Hi Dom,
Very nice find - there is a footnote in MIKE C's Green book, page 35, where he describes Ray Hodges having found a 100yd Seahawk, pictures included.
I guess, reely, it should be labelled a Seahawk 41!!
Well done!!!
Martin
I will crack her open soon to clean her up, and will take photos.
Thanks Mo, Gfish, Martin... and thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
I know I'm in good company if Ray had one. I looked in the blue book and there wasn't any photos, but didn't check the green book. Thanks!
Anyone else have one?
Best,
Dom
Thanks Crow. Great explaination!
I love the simplicity. Negatives would be the possible gear grinding and thumbin the spool/line for drag purposes. Given the simple construction/ maintenance, and the cool picture plates, I'd get one just to experience it. Not to worry though, I won't be actively collecting one.
Yeah, that's definitely my dream reel. I'd make you an offer Dom, but we play in different leagues. :)
The Penn 15 has that same clutch but it's a much larger reel.
-steve
Steve, I'm sorry but I can't part with this one. I've never seen one and evidently not too many have been unearthed.
I may have an extra 150 yd. somewhere though if you want me to look?
Were all in the same league around here, pal.
What kind fishing do you do using a 100 yd sea hawk, just curious?
Thanks
Dom
Hi Dom, Wow !!!
I never knew it existed, that is some find right there.
Here's me thinking I had covered all the Sea Hawk models !!!
luv it, Luv it Luv it Dom, thanks for sharing your find.
That will look superb on your shelf next to the others......
Col
Thanks a bunch, Col. I'm pretty happy with this one.
Steve, I just checked and the 150yd. and unfortunately, she has a freespool lever.
Dom
Dom, what is the diameter of the plates on it ? And the width of the spool ? I'm trying to get a handle on it's size.............Thanks
Firstly some nice looking Sea hawks, I don't know much about these reels can someone please give me some info on this reel. I think it the old penn reel in my collection so what age do you think it maybe. It's a 250yds and has a waffle clicker and is that the correct handle for the reel different from other reels in this post any info would be great thanks.
KIM
It's got a long beach tail plate with waffle clicker, and spool with post instead of drilled. I'd say it's a mix of different reels, but all the parts do appear to be pre war except possibly the spool
Ted
Thanks Ted for the quick reply and the info
Kim
Quote from: broadway on October 23, 2019, 12:14:26 PM
Thanks for posting the photos up for me, Arlyn
Also, thanks to Mike (MHC) for offering as well.
Anybody have one or seen a 100 yd'er? This one purrs like a kitten.
The seller sent me a note that they paid $1 at a yard sale for it. :o
Thanks guys,
Dom
That's very cool find,,,,,, ;D
Here's Dom's Seahawk:
Thanks for posting for me, Arlyn.
Won't bother you again with it, but may bother someone else if I find a 50 yd'er, lol.
Dom
No problem, Dom....glad to do it, so "bother" me anytime :D. The old "gal" looks pretty darn good !
Hee hee...if anybody finds a 50 yd'er it would be Dom! I've had this 42 Sea Hawk tail plate for ages, looking for a matching "mottled" head plate. I might as well be searchin' for the lost city of El Dorado. :P
Hi Mo,
That tail plate looks more like the tail plate from a 1953/4 Sea Scout #78 - Penn produced them for a short while before the 1954 catalogue was printed. Penn soon changed the name to Sea Scamp and dropped the tail plate with that lighthouse scene from the 42 Sea hawk.
Penn seems to have made quite a few models with that mottling around that era - quite cute reely!!
cheers
Martin
Quote from: Deepennz on October 24, 2019, 02:09:21 PM
That tail plate looks more like the tail plate from a 1953/4 Sea Scout #78 - Penn produced them for a short while before the 1954 catalogue was printed. Penn soon changed the name to Sea Scamp and dropped the tail plate with that lighthouse scene from the 42 Sea hawk.
Ahh...I see...thanks for the info Martin! I knew it wasn't a Sea Scamp because of the lighthouse scene, but didn't know about the short lived Sea Scout.
Does anybody have a tail plate for a 37