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Title: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: mrbrklyn on October 01, 2013, 06:25:37 AM
Evidently, I'm going to need to get weights in quanitiy for Black Fish Season here in NY.  I have one connection of $45 for 25 pounds.  Anyone have another connection?
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: bluefish69 on October 01, 2013, 03:36:19 PM
Did you talk to Pelican about Lead?

Mike
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Mandelstam on October 01, 2013, 05:23:15 PM
I've seen nice environmentally friendly and cheap DIY weights made from rebar. A bit bulkier than lead but pretty cheap. And most importantly not toxic for us or our environment.
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: xaf on October 02, 2013, 12:59:12 PM
Have you tried The Grateful Lead Sinker Company (www.gratefullead.com/‎).  They offer free shipping on anything over 40 Lb.
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: conchydong on October 02, 2013, 01:30:04 PM
Quote from: Mandelstam on October 01, 2013, 05:23:15 PM
I've seen nice environmentally friendly and cheap DIY weights made from rebar. A bit bulkier than lead but pretty cheap. And most importantly not toxic for us or our environment.

That is what I use for most deep dropping. Cost me $.65 a lb and the local steel supplier where I buy them cuts them to my specified size.
# 11 rebar (11/12") is about 5 lbs per foot, so it is easy to calculate the size you need. Only thing you need to do is either tack weld a hex nut, braze a heavy wire loop or drill a hole through the rebar for line attachment purposes
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Bucktail on October 02, 2013, 03:11:25 PM
That's a great price!
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Bucktail on October 03, 2013, 08:15:34 PM
Make sure you get the flat ones for togging.
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Bucktail on October 19, 2013, 02:16:42 AM
Quote from: mrbrklyn on October 18, 2013, 10:49:18 PM
How about $80 for 50 pounds of weights?

That works out to 10ยข/oz. That is a fantastic price!  Are they the flat sinkers?  And how can I get in on this deal?
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: bluefish69 on October 21, 2013, 12:44:18 AM
Ruben

If your scared to ask Capt. Tony [Pelican] about sinkers. Then go into Stella Maris & ask them. Joey or Richie.

Mike
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: bluefish69 on October 21, 2013, 03:03:40 AM
I mostly make my own sinkers. As of now I have 250 # of lead

Mike
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on October 21, 2013, 04:08:56 AM
Bluefish a guy I fish with is the exact same. He gets a ton of lead from work and goes at it!
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: bluefish69 on October 21, 2013, 02:37:14 PM
My Brother in Law gave me the sinkers that he stored for me for 25yrs. He put them in a place his kids could not touch lead [ both were cops]. You don't touch lead when your a cop. All my lead in in strips of 25#
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Dwbuzzard on October 21, 2013, 04:19:48 PM
we used to use old spark plugs from the garage, if you can still get them. The mecanic would save them for us. Cant beat free
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Bucktail on October 21, 2013, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: bluefish69 on October 21, 2013, 02:37:14 PM
You don't touch lead when your a cop.

Why not? ???
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on October 21, 2013, 07:44:47 PM
I wonderin the same thing. And about the weights having to be flat, why? I think tog fishing is like fishing for sheeps head we just use bell shaped weights with a hook on a dropper loop above when fishing sraight down
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Bucktail on October 21, 2013, 08:14:41 PM
Quote from: Bunnlevel Sharker on October 21, 2013, 07:44:47 PM
I wonderin the same thing. And about the weights having to be flat, why? I think tog fishing is like fishing for sheeps head we just use bell shaped weights with a hook on a dropper loop above when fishing sraight down

For togging you want your bait to remain as still as possible.  Once your bait hits the bottom you need to feel around with the sinker to find a good piece of structure.  Once you've found it, you want it to stay there without moving off the spot.  It is sometimes hard to do in a rolling sea.  I've used both, but that is where the flat bank sinkers hold an advantage over the regular bank sinkers.

Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: bluefish69 on October 21, 2013, 09:06:41 PM
Quote from: Dwbuzzard on October 21, 2013, 04:19:48 PM
we used to use old spark plugs from the garage, if you can still get them. The mecanic would save them for us. Cant beat free

When you have to fish with 6 - 12oz sinkers Spark Plugs kind of don't work. If you fish Fisher's Island on a running tide try 28oz sinkers.

Mike
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on October 22, 2013, 12:16:22 PM
Ok now i just wanna know why cops cant touch lead ??? ;D
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: bluefish69 on October 22, 2013, 05:30:49 PM
I don't know. I married into this family 44yrs ago. My in laws are strange people. They might have used LaTex gloves to load their guns. They met in a Squard Car.

Mike
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Dwbuzzard on October 26, 2013, 08:06:14 PM
the newest craze is to use a jig head and attach the crab directly wothout the need of additional weight nor a "fishfinder" rig
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Bucktail on October 26, 2013, 10:55:26 PM
Quote from: Dwbuzzard on October 26, 2013, 08:06:14 PM
the newest craze is to use a jig head and attach the crab directly wothout the need of additional weight nor a "fishfinder" rig

I have always wanted to try a jig head for tog.  I would guess they work well inshore, in shallow water.  I don't think you could use them in deep water, with a hard current, when you need 8-16 oz. to hold. 

Do you use a fishfinder rig for tog?  I don't know anyone that does.  I would think you would give the fish too much time to bury itself down in the wreck or rocks.
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Bunnlevel Sharker on October 27, 2013, 03:37:21 AM
As long as you have braid and the right jig head, I don't think it would be a problem
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Dwbuzzard on October 27, 2013, 07:10:06 PM
I fish the Newport ri area mostly for tog. 15-50 ft of water depending on the time of the season. I always use a fish finder rig and usually 2 oz rarely over 4
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: bluefish69 on October 27, 2013, 08:35:47 PM
Down here we are very very lucky to get away with 5 oz. Most of the time it's 8 - 10 oz & sometimes 12 oz.

Mike
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Frank on October 27, 2013, 08:56:41 PM
Quote from: bluefish69 on October 27, 2013, 08:35:47 PM
Down here we are very very lucky to get away with 5 oz. Most of the time it's 8 - 10 oz & sometimes 12 oz.

Mike

Same here Mike.

Frank
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: bluefish69 on October 27, 2013, 09:08:30 PM
All I need now is a 25# bag of 12 oz & 16 oz

Mike
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: bluefish69 on October 27, 2013, 11:23:33 PM
I could But I have my own Source

Mike
Title: Re: need weigts for Blackfish Season
Post by: Bucktail on October 28, 2013, 04:40:13 AM
Quote from: Frank on October 27, 2013, 08:56:41 PM
Quote from: bluefish69 on October 27, 2013, 08:35:47 PM
Down here we are very very lucky to get away with 5 oz. Most of the time it's 8 - 10 oz & sometimes 12 oz.

Mike

Same here Mike.

Frank

Yeah, on the deeper wrecks and rockpiles that I fish we generally start with 6 or 8 and go up from there.