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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => General Spinning Reel Questions => Topic started by: Jayce on July 24, 2014, 05:31:22 AM

Title: Stucked Bearing
Post by: Jayce on July 24, 2014, 05:31:22 AM
Hi Guys,

Was servicing my spinning reel (first time to open it up) after 1 year of use.
I cannot remove the drive shaft bearings on both sides.  I don't like to force it with the risk
of damaging the parts. 
Any tips on how to remove these critters.
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: johndtuttle on July 24, 2014, 06:12:11 PM
Are you referring the bearings that support the main gear and handle or the pinion/main shaft?

For the pinion/main shaft find a large washer that fits the pinion. Put it on there and replace the rotor nut to keep the washer on. Some gentle wiggles and straight pulls should do it. If it's truly stuck (ie corrosion) then a penetrating oil around it then heating the housing should loosen it up.
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: alantani on July 24, 2014, 06:16:31 PM
Pounding on a bearing can easily cause damage. If the bearing is already bad then pound away!
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: Jayce on July 25, 2014, 01:21:24 AM
Quote from: johndtuttle on July 24, 2014, 06:12:11 PM
Are you referring the bearings that support the main gear and handle or the pinion/main shaft?

For the pinion/main shaft find a large washer that fits the pinion. Put it on there and replace the rotor nut to keep the washer on. Some gentle wiggles and straight pulls should do it. If it's truly stuck (ie corrosion) then a penetrating oil around it then heating the housing should loosen it up.

The two bearings that supports the Main gear on both sides of the spinner  ;D
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: johndtuttle on July 25, 2014, 01:23:33 AM
Quote from: Jayce on July 25, 2014, 01:21:24 AM
Quote from: johndtuttle on July 24, 2014, 06:12:11 PM
Are you referring the bearings that support the main gear and handle or the pinion/main shaft?

For the pinion/main shaft find a large washer that fits the pinion. Put it on there and replace the rotor nut to keep the washer on. Some gentle wiggles and straight pulls should do it. If it's truly stuck (ie corrosion) then a penetrating oil around it then heating the housing should loosen it up.

The two bearings that supports the Main gear on both sides of the spinner  ;D

Once you remove the side plate they come out of the receptacle from the inside. If they won't drop right out with a little shake then you can poke with a blunt tool from the outside where the handle comes in and they should drop out.
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: Jayce on July 25, 2014, 01:39:08 AM
Quote from: johndtuttle on July 25, 2014, 01:23:33 AM
Quote from: Jayce on July 25, 2014, 01:21:24 AM
Quote from: johndtuttle on July 24, 2014, 06:12:11 PM
Are you referring the bearings that support the main gear and handle or the pinion/main shaft?

For the pinion/main shaft find a large washer that fits the pinion. Put it on there and replace the rotor nut to keep the washer on. Some gentle wiggles and straight pulls should do it. If it's truly stuck (ie corrosion) then a penetrating oil around it then heating the housing should loosen it up.

The two bearings that supports the Main gear on both sides of the spinner  ;D

Once you remove the side plate they come out of the receptacle from the inside. If they won't drop right out with a little shake then you can poke with a blunt tool from the outside where the handle comes in and they should drop out.

Hi John,

Both are stuck on the main gear tried soaking them but still stuck.
Tried pulling them out by hand but still no avail.
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: Jeto on July 25, 2014, 05:58:49 AM
have you tried soaking them first in lighter fluid before applying some penetrating oil?
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: Jayce on July 25, 2014, 06:42:54 AM
Quote from: Jeto on July 25, 2014, 05:58:49 AM
have you tried soaking them first in lighter fluid before applying some penetrating oil?

Soaked them in Lighter fluid then when that failed i sprayed some WD40 still wont budge.
There are no signs of rust/corrosion (freshwater reel) along the area of the bearings and bearing are still good.
Its just really stuck.  It seems it was forced fitted during assembly in the factory ?
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: johndtuttle on July 26, 2014, 03:28:46 AM
Quote from: Jayce on July 25, 2014, 06:42:54 AM
Quote from: Jeto on July 25, 2014, 05:58:49 AM
have you tried soaking them first in lighter fluid before applying some penetrating oil?

Soaked them in Lighter fluid then when that failed i sprayed some WD40 still wont budge.
There are no signs of rust/corrosion (freshwater reel) along the area of the bearings and bearing are still good.
Its just really stuck.  It seems it was forced fitted during assembly in the factory ?

Take a look at the schematic for the reel. If the main gear has the bearings attached on the drawing then they might be an "assembly" sold with them pressed on.

What reel is this?? Can you post a photo?
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: Jayce on July 28, 2014, 08:20:34 AM
Its an old Ultegra shimano reel.

Yes the bearings and drive shafts are separate on the schematics.

Got one out with help from a friend now the other bearing is still stuck.
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: thedw on July 29, 2014, 12:24:27 PM
spray down that sucker with WD-40 or TSI.... wait for an hour.

try to wiggle it out ...

erm no offense but seeing as its an ultegra perhaps the effort required may not be justified by the trouble and cost of the reel?

perhaps buying a new reel would save alot more time and effort
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: Alto Mare on July 29, 2014, 12:57:31 PM
I might be the only one using this stuff, but if you wanted to give it a shot let me know how you like it.
spray a little on and watch the rust melt away, no stink or mess.
http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=CUQTEIJnXU4ivFNO1yQGIs4GgDtCxmPIGoMzlznCo4LuORAgGEAcoCFDIjIs_YMmWlozQpOQPyAEHqgQmT9AwLP5VpruayVK7NOSyjGr4NGu5w6mHtE76TfDR5nEXiFOc5cPABQWgBiaAB8iE-xyIBwGQBwKoB6a-G-ASvvevyqLRh-AY&sig=AOD64_0cNqTBoiUQWRwbTHlxWkhZ0TXH1g&ctype=5&rct=j&q=&ved=0CM8BEPQO&adurl=http://hardwareonlinestore.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_virtuemart%26view%3Dproductdetails%26virtuemart_product_id%3D14223%26virtuemart_category_id%3D22102
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: broadway on July 29, 2014, 01:29:24 PM
After a few of Sal's tutorials I learned that Paslode works... I now use it, also.
Good luck with the bearing,
Dom
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: Dominick on July 29, 2014, 03:18:46 PM
I read a lot of stuff on this site and it is the first time I heard of Paslode.  Did I miss it somewhere?  I'm killing myself with the stuff I use.  :-\ Dominick
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: TomT on July 30, 2014, 02:57:21 AM
Dominick, About a year ago Sal was talking about this stuff and had purchased it at Home Depot.  I went to my nearest Home Depot and searched in 3 or 4 different locations and had help from 3 HD employees.  No one had even heard of it.  I asked 1 more employee over by the tools and he took me right to it.  It was not cheap but works good.  So, try HD over by the compressors and power tools.  At my store it was stored so high they had to get a ladder to get it. ;D
TomT
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: Dominick on July 30, 2014, 05:20:35 PM
Quote from: TomT on July 30, 2014, 02:57:21 AM
Dominick, About a year ago Sal was talking about this stuff and had purchased it at Home Depot.  I went to my nearest Home Depot and searched in 3 or 4 different locations and had help from 3 HD employees.  No one had even heard of it.  I asked 1 more employee over by the tools and he took me right to it.  It was not cheap but works good.  So, try HD over by the compressors and power tools.  At my store it was stored so high they had to get a ladder to get it. ;D
TomT
I'll get some.  But I sure am going to miss the high from sniffing the fumes out of a paper bag.   :D Dominick
Title: Re: Stucked Bearing
Post by: bluefish69 on July 31, 2014, 12:18:01 AM
I'll send you some model cement to put in the bag.