still one of my favorites. guess you could say I am a sucker for any penn models that have the artwork on the 27 non handle side plate. more detailed the better, and love these old boxes too of course.
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q795/OceanGrain/IMG_9772_zpsar5bygv0.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/OceanGrain/media/IMG_9772_zpsar5bygv0.jpg.html)(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q795/OceanGrain/IMG_9773_zpszvdyhcik.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/OceanGrain/media/IMG_9773_zpszvdyhcik.jpg.html)(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q795/OceanGrain/IMG_9777_zpswpou56fy.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/OceanGrain/media/IMG_9777_zpswpou56fy.jpg.html)(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q795/OceanGrain/IMG_9779_zpseyt4xv0c.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/OceanGrain/media/IMG_9779_zpseyt4xv0c.jpg.html)(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q795/OceanGrain/IMG_9781_zpsrfil38bp.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/OceanGrain/media/IMG_9781_zpsrfil38bp.jpg.html)(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q795/OceanGrain/IMG_9783_zpsmazzkynj.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/OceanGrain/media/IMG_9783_zpsmazzkynj.jpg.html)(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q795/OceanGrain/IMG_9785_zps4ctgtagx.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/OceanGrain/media/IMG_9785_zps4ctgtagx.jpg.html)(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q795/OceanGrain/IMG_9786_zpsrjdeoyag.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/OceanGrain/media/IMG_9786_zpsrjdeoyag.jpg.html)(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q795/OceanGrain/IMG_9787_zpslckluenk.jpg) (http://s1359.photobucket.com/user/OceanGrain/media/IMG_9787_zpslckluenk.jpg.html)
That's sweeeeeet! Good find.
Gorgeous reel...enjoy it!
Sal
handle is the slightest bit torqued - but cant be felt when cranking, only if you look very close
Nice set.
Nice reel.
That's a beauty. Look at the price on the box. Pretty fair amount of money back in the day. Are you putting this up on eBay?
Beautiful reel, I couldn't help noticing the price on the box. "$25.00" That was a steal. ;)
Joe
'fair trade price' - classic language love it.
guess that is the prior generation equivalent to MAP.
would be great to hear from someone who has more info about the 'fair trade price' system
before my time unfortunately
yes the item is for sale.
Mike C has a good explanation in his book on fair trade policy. PM about purchasing your reel please. Best,
Mike
Quote from: fishgrain on December 03, 2015, 02:55:58 PM
'fair trade price' - classic language love it.
guess that is the prior generation equivalent to MAP.
would be great to hear from someone who has more info about the 'fair trade price' system
before my time unfortunately
yes the item is for sale.
What is your asking price, PM me.
Joe
never recv'd pm Maudu
Sorry brother, I was asking you to send me the pm if you were selling. Btw... I've bought several of your eBay items and you are great to do Biz with.
Beautiful, early 1950's Squidder 140. Interesting fact about the price of a Squidder, even in 1939, the introduction year, the Squidder 140 was $25. Twenty Five bucks seemed to be the number for Penn Squidder 140 for the first 20 years or so of it manufacture. The Penn Squidder 140 was the best conventional surf fishing reel in the world, so it was a bit pricey. It was still a great seller.
When I was young, I could never afford a Squidder, so I fished with a Beachmaster 155. Dimensionally exactly the same as a Squidder, the 155 served me well.
i am always interested in how one reel compares to another - and this sounds like an interesting case to investigate.
squidder vs beachmaster
QuoteInsert Quote
i am always interested in how one reel compares to another - and this sounds like an interesting case to investigate.
squidder vs beachmaster
The Squidder is the perfect reel to use for a comparison. When the Squidder was introduced in 1939, Penn priced it at $25.00 and built it exactly as you see it today, except for the stand. Twenty five dollars was an expensive reel during the Depression. In order to sell more reels and also offer the reel to more working class people, in 1940, Penn introduced the Surfmaster series of reel. The Surfmaster 200 was half the price of the Squidder and soon was nicknamed, "The Poorman's Squidder". The Penn 155 started it life on 1940, it was name the Light Tackle Casting reel and had a price tag of $7.00, making it a very hot seller. It was not named the Beachmaster until many years later. All these reels were dimensionally the same and differed in features. The Squidder 140 spool ran in ball bearings and had anti-backlash system designed into the reel, separating it from the Surfmaster 200 and Light Tackle Casting (Beachmaster) Reel 155. Over the production life of these reels, the hottest seller was the Beachmaster. As is always the way, low price combined with simple able do the job design and quality will always win the masses.
Mike, what is the anti-backlash system in the squidder? I've got a couple of newer examples of the 146, and all they have is the spool tension business. Thanks.
Mike
Quote from: mike1010 on December 08, 2015, 02:32:40 PM
Mike, what is the anti-backlash system in the squidder? I've got a couple of newer examples of the 146, and all they have is the spool tension business. Thanks.
Mike
[/quote
Yes, that was the first 'huh'? that came to me too. ???
OK, the first Squidder had the Bakelite spool. On the tail plate side of the spool were fins. In the tail plate were compartments. As the spool is spinning during a cast, pressure is built up in those compartments.
BETTER IDEA!!
Here is directly from the Penn 1939 catalog:
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Squidder/img638%20614%20x%20930_zps6bkrtggt.jpg)
And a neat photo from Harlan Majors 1930's book on saltwater tackle:
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Squidder/1939%20Penn%20Squidder%20140%20from%20Harlan%20Major%20Salt%20Water%20Fishin%20418%20x%20449%20418%20x%20449_zpsu7yitwmd.jpg)
Notice the 1939 Squidder has a open stand. The Squidder 140 was only made with a non-rod clamp strand in 1939. That sort of makes the 1939 model the best one to make a shelfie out of. They are actually pretty hard too find in this configuration.
Nice. Thanks very much.
sweeet action on that catalog - thx. love to see those pics of the 39' - open stand,
Yes, thank you for the squidder info. Having never seen the oldies I had no idea.
Glad you guys enjoyed the info. :)
Great info Mike. Thank you for that. Btw ... that air brake, anti backlash technology can be easily overridden by trying to throw too much weight too far ;D
Beautiful reel and exceptional photos!!!
Some fisherman would find the braking effect too much and would snap off the spool fins to eliminate it. This option does not exist with the chrome or aluminum spool.
Bit late on reply, that reel is beautiful and some find for sure.
Very pretty box, enjoy.
Maybe this is halfway hijacking this thread, but I just acquired a NOS USA-made 140, and am trying to date it. It's got black side plates and the flat knob. The box has a bar code and a "recyclable" symbol on it, so this reel is not very old. When did US production of the 140 stop? Thanks.
Mike
Actually, one step down from the Squidder was the Surfmaster, which had the same frame and quick-take apart right sideplate. Next down was the Beachmaster. There was a lot of interchangeability of parts amongst all three. I too started on a Beachmaster (using 27 lb braided line and a 4 oz sinker, practicing on a nearby football field).... Nice reels all.
Mine I think 2004 was last year of the squidder. With flat knob I'd say yours is of the final iteration. Plastic or metal clamp?
Quote from: thorhammer on June 15, 2017, 05:45:37 PM
Mine I think 2004 was last year of the squidder. With flat knob I'd say yours is of the final iteration. Plastic or metal clamp?
Thanks for the reply. Plastic clamp.
Regarding the Surfmaster, yes, another great reel. I inherited from my father an early '50s 200 in great shape, now narrowed to a 100 with aluminum spool, some stainless parts, Bryan's five-stack, and Newell bars. It's a little workhorse, my goto tog reel.
BTW, some look down on the Surfmaster because it has spool bushings instead of bearings, but properly maintained bushings give plenty of free spool, more than enough to get me in trouble with an overrun if I'm not careful.
I have three 200's; totally agree you can polish shaft and lube and you will be trying to reign it back....