Hey everyone, thanks for everything you share on here. I've been reading posts for about a week now and this seems like a fantastic community! I stumbled upon this board while looking into what can and cannot be done to an old beat up reel to put it back into service. I'm setting up a couple of bull redfish/medium size shark rods for the surf because after about a 7 year hiatus I'm getting back in. Turns out my twin 6 yo girls love beach fishing! Who could ask for more right? So I have an affinity for penns which surely doesn't come as a surprise to anyone here. In the last week and a half I have come across a Squidder 140 converted to a 146 with a tiburon frame for 53 bucks and a penn mag power 980 for 60 bucks. Time to get them back in action!
Now for the frustrating part, the Squidder came apart and back together smoothly with the help of tutorials on here, the mag power came apart great but I'll be damned if that dog spring didn't go flying when trying to reinstall!!! So over to mystic parts I go and order a new spring, the old one was tweaked a little so no harm there probably should have done it anyways. Picked up some carbontex washers to justify 6 dollars in shipping. Got home today and the parts are here, drag goes in no issue and then to the spring... I bet you know where I am going with this. PING! Off my shoulder, off the wall and gone!!! Who else has spent time on hands and knees searching for that damn dog spring!!!
Welcome !! Yup, those little things do go "zing!".don't they !!
Welcome. Always add extra springs on your order for the reels you are working on whenever you are ordering parts (at least a half dozen). You might find it 6 months from now. Always add a dab of grease to the spring to help it stick where you want it. Rudy
Yeah man you would think I would learn my lesson after the first one but guess who was pumped to get his new reel set? Having a beer, cooling off and venting here before I resume the search. It doesn't help that I lost em sitting at my woodworking bench with hand plane shavings all over the floor. I've got a bucket with a few magnets in it I'm dumping the shavings into.
Welcome Brett!
No big deal — we have all been there.
PM me your address — and I will get one in the mail to you tomorrow morning — N/C.
Then, when installing it — do it in a big clear plastic bag until you get the hang of juggling the various parts.
Or, just use a little grease on the spring to help hold in in place until you can get it fastened in place.
Part # is 14-99 — used on many Penn reels.
Best,
Fred
Welcome from salem va,,,,,,,, ;D
Quote from: foakes on August 02, 2019, 10:28:06 PM
Welcome Brett!
No big deal — we have all been there.
PM me your address — and I will get one in the mail to you tomorrow morning — N/C.
Then, when installing it — do it in a big clear plastic bag until you get the hang of juggling the various parts.
Or, just use a little grease on the spring to help hold in in place until you can get it fastened in place.
Part # is 14-99 — used on many Penn reels.
Best,
Fred
Thanks all for the welcome! I figured this was probably a shared experience so what better way to break the ice? Fred's offer is so much more than kind. This is why I am here, not for free stuff, but because of good people with a shared interest in keeping our gear in shape, tweaking it to best meet our needs and fishing the hell out of it. The internet is a crazy place and I feel like the people here talk like they are standing next to you, not some anonymous screen name behind a keyboard. Cheers to all of you guys who make this board what it is. Still haven't found that damn spring but I have a little more looking to do
Welcome aboard Brett. I've sent so many dog springs flying that I learned how to make them out of about anything I had lying around. Later I got wise and stocked up on them. Like the guys said, a dab of grease "neutralizes" the little springs flight ability, kind of like tying a rock to a sparrow's leg, HA! 8)
Greetings, Brett, from Minnesota USA. I, too, have shot a few springs off into NeverNeverland.
Frank
Hi Brett and welcome - Chris from the UK.
I have found many small metal items by using a strong magnet on the end of a telescopic 'wand' - then pacing backwards and forwards with the magnet close to the floor - saves all that hands and knees stuff ;) This, assumes, the metal is magnetic doh!
Welcome from Philly, Brett!
Sal
Welcome from Cape Town South Africa 8) 8)
Regards
AC49
Welcome. Use the penn 113h tutorial. https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=208.0
We've all lost a "Jesus" spring once or twice, no worries about that. Like Rudy said, just order a few extra to keep on hand.
Welcome Brett. Here's a suggestion if you don't want to wait:
Vacuum the area using a new bag or clean canister, then inspect the contents. Many a tiny part has turned up like that!
Quote from: BrettS on August 03, 2019, 12:40:44 AM
Still haven't found that damn spring but I have a little more looking to do
been there done that
I know where your spring is hiding, that spring is next to the black sock you needed on that special celebration that you never found that day, well the key is to find that sock and the spring will be next to it.
hint hint..I still havent found 45 socks and 34 springs
Dropped off a couple in the mail today, at the Post Office, Brett —
Couple of funny things to remember about these tiny parts, such as dog springs.
When one would fly off at warp speed into lower Earth orbit — I would listen for where it might have landed.
Trouble with dog springs — they are so light, I can seldom hear them — and if I did hear the first bounce, they are so springy that they end up somewhere else anyway...
Other thing is — I keep a few wide mouth tubs of grease on the bench. Check these periodically, along with the application brushes — often a spring or small part gets caught in the grease.
Another place they hide — is on the bottom of the magnetic cover on my IPad.
Spares are the best bet — eventually you will find the springs when you least expect it.
Also, using Alan's tutorial about how to insert the spring under the bridge plate — then rotate it into position — works every time. I doubt that I have lost more than 3 dog springs over the last 10 years — and that is after servicing hundreds of Penns.
I am ready to do another semi-major rearrangement of the upstairs shop that will involve the main 10' bench, a grinding and burnishing station, a double line winder station, a shipping and receiving station, along with other changes.
As I do the remodel — It will be interesting to see what tiny parts come home to roost.
Best,
Fred
By taking the time to look, I can always find a missing part. The trouble is, it is always a different missing part than the one I'm looking for at the moment.
-steve
VICTORY!!!! Against all odds I found it, had an idea of where it should be because I did hear it as it fell. Thanks again for the suggestions, and to Fred for sending some. If anyone ever finds themselves in the same situation I'll be the first to offer to send a replacement. So I used Alan's technique in the tutorial link combined with the working in the bag and a dab of grease on the spring approach. How about the guy who runs the site reading and commenting on my first post? Thanks Alan. And wow does this board have some reach! I feel like I have been welcomed by someone from every corner of the US and a surprising number of folks from around the world.
It is indeed a very unique community.
You have created something pretty great here Alan. I have a few general questions if y'all don't mind; where do I find instructions for posting pics? And what would the most appropriate place to post a reel handle ID question I have? That Squidder I bought recently has an odd bent arm and oversized wood knob that I cannot find any info on. Thanks guys.
Quote from: BrettS on August 04, 2019, 04:39:51 PM
You have created something pretty great here Alan. I have a few general questions if y'all don't mind; where do I find instructions for posting pics? And what would the most appropriate place to post a reel handle ID question I have? That Squidder I bought recently has an odd bent arm and oversized wood knob that I cannot find any info on. Thanks guys.
Welcome Brett, you can post your squidder handle question in several places on the forum. I'd suggest one of the Penn sections.
To add a picture to your post, you simply click on "additional options" and then click "browse" and then you can add any pic from any file on your computer. It's actually really simple. If I can do it anyone can
Ted
Yup!
Thanks guys! See you over in the penn forums!
My advice - I have a six-year-old daughter too! When I lose a spring, I call her. Her eyes are 10 times better than mine. She finds the spring, and there is much rejoicing! She is the hero!
The grease that Rudy mentioned is a big help too. Keeps the spring sticky and a little heavier.
The spring is hiding with missing Sox. Hi.
Welcome 🙏, from se Alaska, 🦀. many a good spring is never found ever again. Glad you're here and enjoying Alan's site. The other somewhat alarming part of the forum is your time is recorded and you can see how much time you have spent learning and sharing when you login.🐬
The folks here are always friendly and ready to help on any topic. You choose.
Quote from: BrettS on August 04, 2019, 04:39:51 PM
You have created something pretty great here Alan. I have a few general questions if y'all don't mind; where do I find instructions for posting pics? And what would the most appropriate place to post a reel handle ID question I have? That Squidder I bought recently has an odd bent arm and oversized wood knob that I cannot find any info on. Thanks guys.
Brett,
Welcome to the Forum . . . You are among Friends here !
The Squidder is my all-time favorite reel !
The reel in the pics below is a full Accurate conversion PENN 140L Squidder ( it now has a Newell spool on it, slightly lighter than the "stock" 140L PENN spool ) . . .
According to PENN Catalog 39B, from 1983, a "stock" 140L weighs 18oz. As "dressed" in those pics, with an EMPTY Newell spool, the reels weighs 20.1 oz. . . . The Rod Clamp, weighs 1.1 oz., by itself . . . I thought the Accurate parts would add a lot of weight, but they don't !
Tight Lines !
Dave F.
near Raleigh, NC USA
Welcome to the Darkside Brett....been there done that with the dog springs....I've gotten into the habit of threading some dental floss or guide wrapping thread through the spring to slow them buggers down....white makes it easier to find......Bill, Southern California
Welcome!
Losing dog springs is a rite of passage!
If you've worked on Penn Senators, you've lost dog springs.
Welcome from South Australia Kim