I have been curious about these reels for quite awhile. Historical data too.
It's a great little reel in Jigmaster sizes, beefed up with an aluminum frame, five stack drag stock, etc.
Wasn't a popular selling reel, but some have to be out there. Who bought them? I never hear any of our members asking questions or even mentioning them. Rarely come up for sale. ( I got mine from Nelz ).
Ok, who has one of these models? Speak up.
PS. If you have a 40 I need a spool, lol.
Nobody has one of these?
I'm baffled why these never appear. See more Newell 220's, some Pro Gear, even Shimano Tld's.
Did they only make a few and give up?
Hmmmmmm.
Hey, I regret selling it now!
;D I'm thinking it's worth big bucks now.
Still can be had for $30 in almost new condition. Sleeper reels for sure. Oops, my bad, wrong reel. Sorry about that!
H-man, I was shaking my head wondering where you saw them for $30, lol.
I'll buy (4) if you find them at that price.
Another reel that seems to be extinct.
These are clearly superior to any Jigmaster right out of the box.
Hey Randy, I just scored a 50HSD, am now waiting on delivery. I miss my old 40HSD but until now have only been able to find this 50 sized one. I've seen a couple 40/50's before this but they were in rough shape. This one looks real good in photos, we'll see!
If all goes well I'll be hitting you up for some of the upgrade tips that you've no doubt done to your 40HSD. Hope you've taken that beauty off the shelf by now, lol.
Nelz, I had every intention of fishing the 40HSD I got from you. I even bought a NIB 40HSD frame thinking I could just get another spool to build a back up reel..........NOPE. Unobtanium material.
I got a 50HSD too, off the auction but it's waiting for new drags.
I never hear them mentioned anywhere. I think Daiwa only made about 10, lol.
I'm questioning whether it's even sane to fish it, with it being so hard to find another.
I put a 3/0 Tani handle knob on an extra Daiwa arm I had and it's perfect at catching shelf dust bunnies.
Quote from: Rancanfish on July 12, 2017, 07:01:11 PM
Nelz, I had every intention of fishing the 40HSD I got from you. I even bought a NIB 40HSD frame thinking I could just get another spool to build a back up reel..........NOPE. Unobtanium material. I got a 50HSD too, off the auction but it's waiting for new drags. I never hear them mentioned anywhere. I think Daiwa only made about 10, lol. I'm questioning whether it's even sane to fish it, with it being so hard to find another. I put a 3/0 Tani handle knob on an extra Daiwa arm I had and it's perfect at catching shelf dust bunnies.
So what parts were Unobtanium? Is the spool not a match with other Sealines? Btw, how do I order a new drag, Smoooth's website doesn't list it.
I suspect the plastic drag star may have turned away some sales. Nothing wrong with it though, it's pretty strong, unlike the Penn Baja's that was reputed to be too brittle and break often. Still, I'd like to replace it with a metal one off another Sealine, there's got to be a match.
Btw, a while back I took the 40 on a head boat and the mate recognized it and commented that they were great reels.
This website "offer up" has a 40hsd $40 or make offer in San Clemente. I don't know if they're legit, so you're on your own on that. Hey! That's close to you Porthos, isn't it?
Pass San Clemente everyday on the commute. Randy, do you want me to try?
Wai, Thanks! That would be awesome! Thank you too, Hamachi.
That 'Offer up' is just like Craigslist, sort of, lol. You will get flaky people sometimes.
Nelz, when I get a chance I'll play around a bit with spools. Maybe a 47H spool fits? I doubt it but just haven't looked yet.
I'll get the dimensions of the drags for you and see what I can match up.
Thanks Ran, just interested in the drag disk size and a compatible metal drag star, as for the spool, I was just curious.
I think "Offer Up" requires a phone app, unlike Craigslist. Btw, a guy in FL was recently murdered while buying an iPhone from Craigslist. Be very careful folks.
Just checked the drag discs. Thin, almost plastic-y. 5 stack as stock.
Inches - Measurements - MM
.976 Outside dia. 24.70
.559 Inside dia. 14.21
.019 Thickness .48
#21 drag in the chart? And then adjust the I.d. so it doesn't float? At least the thickness is pretty close!
Thanks Ran. Yeah, the originals are like that but I found they worked pretty smoothly, they just don't put out as much pressure as CF. They are some blend that includes carbon, I find they resemble the dartanium material. I thought you had found disks from a different reel that fit it?
You know Nelz I can't remember, but I must have. There is no way I will stick with the originals, even though it seems pretty smooth.
I am going to have a long weekend since I'm looking at taking Friday off, so I may just tear it apart again and see what I did.
Post up some pics of your 50HSD.
Breaking news ;D
Jigmaster 500 drag disks fit perfectly in these reels, except for the thickness. However... I am thinking that the CF disks from Bryan's Jigmaster 5+1 stack should be perfect since they're thinner.
In the meantime, I was able to fit three standard Jigmaster disks plus one original disk into the stack and it works great! Had to leave out one of the metal washers (the one with the tabs).
I will get around to buying some Jigmaster 5+1 stack CF disks eventually, but for now the reel's sealed up and ready for action.
Oh, and here's the pic you requested:
Also, I am working on some other upgrades that will make this super reel into a super-duper one, lol. Looking to add ball bearings to both ends of the gear shaft. With that in mind, I bought a nifty new vernier caliper tool, and so far, these are the measurements I've come up with:
Key: 46
Part: No. B73-8001
Part Name: Bushing B
Size: 7 X 14 X ***3.3<->3.5
***see photo, not sure how to read this last measurement on the new caliper
Key: 58
Part: No. F86-0901
Part Name: Bushing C
Size: 11 X 17 X 2.75
Hopefully I'll find bearings in these sizes to replace the bushings.
That's great, I love to see them.
Mine is blown apart waiting on drags. Now that you say it, I'm pretty sure I probably put Bryan's 5 stack in there. (The 40HSD).
But I'm really excited to report that my bud Wai followed up and scored the 40 from down his way. I'll post pics of the family when I am working on the lot.
I've pretty much decided to go ahead and use them for salmon.
I'm trying to find an inexpensive 4x4 to tow my boat now. I owe someone a fishing trip.
Here's the family. I tore apart the 40HSD that Wai picked up and shipped to me. (Thanks Mr. Jung). I reinstalled the original drags after wiping a lot of oil off them. The drag seems plenty smooth enough for now. I then put everything into a brand new frame I had on hand. Then I swapped out the crank /handle for a Tani. Its not the correct fit as far as the handle shaft but it's good enough for salmon. Now just need line.
I wanted to see if any parts interchanged so I had a big pile of Daiwa reels torn apart. Not much worked. Stars, spools and sleeves were all different. But while I had them apart I realized the 47H and 50H were awesome, just like I remember. With a SS sleeve from Cortez the 50H is a gun.
My opinion of the HSD's dropped a bit when I realized how small the sleeve is in comparison. Still, straight from the factory the HSD family beats Jigmasters easily. A 40HSD is a Penn 99 sized reel with better stock drags, a solid frame and a stainless dog. Just remember to use the drags properly....
Quote from: Rancanfish on August 02, 2017, 03:03:46 PM
Here's the family. I tore apart the 40HSD that Wai picked up and shipped to me. (Thanks Mr. Jung). I reinstalled the original drags after wiping a lot of oil off them. The drag seems plenty smooth enough for now. I then put everything into a brand new frame I had on hand. Then I swapped out the crank /handle for a Tani. Its not the correct fit as far as the shaft but it's good enough for salmon. Now just need line.
I wanted to see if any parts interchanged so I had a big pile of Daiwa reels torn apart. Not much worked. Stars, spools and sleeves were all different. But while I had them apart I realized the 47H and 50H were awesome, just like I remember. With a SS sleeve from Cortez the 50H is a gun.
My opinion of the HSD's dropped a bit when I realized how small the sleeve is in comparison. Still, straight from the factory the HSD family beats Jigmasters easily. A 40HSD is a Penn 99 sized reel with better stock drags, a solid frame and a stainless dog. Just remember to use the drags properly....
Now that I've seen the family complete, I can now go enjoy that lunch!
You earned it buddy! That was the least I could do for all the running you had to do to make this happen.
Quote from: Rancanfish on August 02, 2017, 03:03:46 PMMy opinion of the HSD's dropped a bit when I realized how small the sleeve is in comparison.
I didn't know the 50H had that jumbo sleeve! Anyhow, the HSD's are the same size as many other reels in their class and work fine for me as is, I'm not winching big ones from the deep blue.
So I got to test my modified "4 stack" drag on a nice Bonita the other day and wow, it was smoooth as can be. And let me tell you, those Bonitas are my pick as pound for pound toughest fish around. Unfortunately, the outing also proved to be a disaster for casting with this reel, with many bird's nests and lack of control. So I had to do something because I love the reel otherwise...
So, I added a powerful little magnet taken from an old hard drive. It fit perfectly into a space in the reel, as seen in the photo. Cleaned the area well and used Super Glue gel, but I'll need to grease coat it after it dries because those magnets rust really bad. This fix should make casting a breeze.
Nelz, where are you fishing?
I like the idea of the magnet, but I think I'm going to be trolling, so wouldn't be a problem for me.
I know I will never have a problem with the sleeve on the HSD's. My mentor, Sal DiMercurio, would threaten to throw me out of the boat if I touched the drag after it was set. My landing rate went way up. ;D
I don't have the experience catching any giants where I felt I had to hammer my drags to slow them down.
Now that I think of it I should have had Wai tear the reel down to get his opinion. I think his middle name is Daiwa.
I was fishing off a pier in South Florida. Man I tell you, those Bonita can fight! They fight so hard in fact, that they don't survive well when released. I actually did tighten the drag a bit as I was fighting it because it was heading across all the lines. The HSD drag remained smooth as butter and turned that bad boy!
Quote from: Rancanfish on August 05, 2017, 03:40:56 PM...Now that I think of it I should have had Wai tear the reel down to get his opinion. I think his middle name is Daiwa.
If only...until i've double-dogged all my 300H, 400H's, and 600H's, as well as add Tom's stainless steel gear sleeves, I will make no attempt to any sort of "Daiwa" title.
Quote from: nelz on August 05, 2017, 07:44:44 PM...I was fishing off a pier in South Florida...
Netz, how far are you from Melbourne?
About 3 hours drive.
Quote from: nelz on August 06, 2017, 05:18:09 AM
About 3 hours drive.
Maybe traveling to Melbourne for work, but 6 hours round trip is a bit much to go to try and get in a session of evening fishing and then be back at work the next morning.
Yeah, especially just to fish on a pier. I hear Sebastian Inlet is great, but have never gone because of the drive. That's pretty close to Melbourne I believe, you might want to check it out.
Wow, this thread is now almost three years old and still no HSD owners popped in with comments.
I think I own the rarest Daiwa's ever produced. I just googled them and still hardly any note of them.
I have serious doubts I'll ever fish them now.
Quote from: Rancanfish on July 04, 2020, 11:06:09 PM...I think I own the rarest Daiwa's ever produced...I have serious doubts I'll ever fish them now.
Randy,
Were you planning to start your own Daiwa museum after you retire?
Unless you anticipate your HSD's falling overboard, they deserve to have a few fish to their credit. Launch your boat and go fish.
I've got a 40HSD.
Quote from: Porthos on July 05, 2020, 03:43:58 AM
Quote from: Rancanfish on July 04, 2020, 11:06:09 PM...I think I own the rarest Daiwa's ever produced...I have serious doubts I'll ever fish them now.
Randy,
Were you planning to start your own Daiwa museum after you retire?
Unless you anticipate your HSD's falling overboard, they deserve to have a few fish to their credit. Launch your boat and go fish.
I'm gonna let you get away with that one my friend, lol. (You are right of course).
Quote from: day0ne on July 05, 2020, 05:33:05 AM
I've got a 40HSD.
Are you using it is the question? I'm just amazed I never see them. Not even parts. I still think Daiwa only made about one hundred.
Quote from: Rancanfish on July 05, 2020, 07:17:48 AM
I'm gonna let you get away with that one my friend, lol. (You are right of course).
I had plans to be in Copenhagen later in July and was going to cod fishing with my 47SH. That's all down the drain now.
So any chance to fish one's gear, I will encourage people to do.