Hi!
I'm stumped. I have not notes anywhere on this one.
A bunch of these mixed in with our inventory of 13-113H.
Not the same diameter...13-113H is .460" and these are .491" and they don't have a ring.
Nearest match I found was 13-49...but this has 17 teeth and 49 has less.
Any ideas? I appreciate any direction on identifying these.
(https://www.mysticparts.com/Assets/images/pennparts/technical/13_identify.jpg)
Pinion for Sailfisher 130?
What is the ID?
I'm not sure what it's for, I do know I have a few. Not sure if this helps, but I did find one of the samepinion in a separate bag with a 5-66 main gear.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/Photo%20May%2012%206%2007%2007%20PM.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/Photo%20May%2012%206%2007%2007%20PM.jpg.html)
Is the 5-130 close to the 5-66?
Sal
Not much success here either, Mo --
Was hoping to find a match in the Penn envelopes -- did not -- so went to the loose guys in the divider boxes.
According to your measurements and 17 teeth -- found 14 that matched -- 3 of these appear to be brass, not steel -- possibly indicating an older reel in the LB line.
I do not have a 130 to compare -- however, since I have 14 of these -- I do not think it would be the more rare 130 -- but I am usually wrong when it comes to gears -- unless I can match it to a reel on my bench.
One of the pinions has Yamaha Blue Marine grease still on it -- and I overhauled about 30 of those LBs in the last 3 years. If, after testing a reel put together from assorted parts -- and I detecting any gear noise or an imperfect meshing -- I would just toss the gear back into the bins -- and try another. Sometimes with old reels -- a worn gear works better than a new one -- depending on how it interacts with the main.
If I have 14, and Sal has more -- it is likely kind of common.
Best,
Fred
Fred, I also have brass pinions in the same dimensions, but those have finer teeth.
Sal
The 13-130 has 13 teeth and looks be the same size as a 13-113H.
130 on the left, 113H on the right
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg549/mhc14/AT%20forum/DSCF3025_zpsxtarv5nh.jpg) (http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/mhc14/media/AT%20forum/DSCF3025_zpsxtarv5nh.jpg.html)
A 13-85 seaboy pinion looks to be the right diameter with 17 teeth.
Mike
I don't have any samples of the 130 sailfisher main/pinion gears.
ID is .213" on these. I have about 20+ of them so no rare either.
13-85 looks the closeset, it's brass and has the ring but it's not the gear either..13-85 is .471" dia :(
Paired with a 5-66??? Sal sent me back to the bins and.
13-60 is stainless and matches perfectly. Mystery solved!
Thanks guys, help was appreciated. Now I have notes in the 13-113H line just in case more of these turn up mixed in.
A gear with the reinforcing ring is called a hobbed gear.
Quote from: Keta on May 13, 2017, 04:40:19 PM
A gear with the reinforcing ring is called a hobbed gear.
Always learning!
Since the 13-60 gears come up as slightly larger diameter than the 13-85 gear, does that mean they won't fit in the gears that currently use the 85? It's not a giant difference. .471 br to .491 ss
I don't even have these 13-60's online!
Quote from: mizmo67 on May 13, 2017, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: Keta on May 13, 2017, 04:40:19 PM
A gear with the reinforcing ring is called a hobbed gear.
Always learning!
Well, i don't want to be a party pooper or nothin', but just to clarify...
Hobbing is a method of manufacturing gears; it has nothing to do with reinforcing rings.
Some of the pinions with reinforcing rings pictured in this thread may well be hobbed, but they still would be even if you took the rings off.
(how do i know? I have a gear hobber. Hobbed hundreds of gears with it. Without rings. :-) )
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobbing
Quote from: Robert Janssen on May 13, 2017, 05:23:04 PM
Quote from: mizmo67 on May 13, 2017, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: Keta on May 13, 2017, 04:40:19 PM
A gear with the reinforcing ring is called a hobbed gear.
Always learning!
Well, i don't want to be a party pooper or nothin', but just to clarify...
Hobbing is a method of manufacturing gears; it has nothing to do with reinforcing rings.
Some of the pinions with reinforcing rings pictured in this thread may well be hobbed, but they still would be even if you took the rings off.
(how do i know? I have a gear hobber. Hobbed hundreds of gears with it. Without rings. :-) )
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobbing
Perfect link...and more schoolin', Thanks Robert!
Quote from: mizmo67 on May 13, 2017, 04:36:19 PM
I don't have any samples of the 130 sailfisher main/pinion gears.
ID is .213" on these. I have about 20+ of them so no rare either.
13-85 looks the closeset, it's brass and has the ring but it's not the gear either..13-85 is .471" dia :(
Paired with a 5-66??? Sal sent me back to the bins and.
13-60 is stainless and matches perfectly. Mystery solved!
Great, Mo --
We all learn now...
A few years ago I restored around 30 of the Long Beaches from 60 to 68s.
The smaller ones like the 60 & 65, along with 78, 85, 285, 309, and maybe a few others -- all use the 13-60.
These were restored completely with the intention of them being snapped up like waffles at the coffee shop when I tried to sell them at shows -- might have sold one out of 30...
So that is where a lot of my 13-60s came from, I guess.
Mystery solved -- thanks to your question.
Best,
Fred