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Title: A Heavenly 210
Post by: mo65 on July 14, 2016, 04:51:22 PM
 The 210 is one of my all time favorites...top of the heap for chasing big catfish in rivers. With the levelwind and 4:1 gearing you can hold the rod high and crank fast on the retrieve, keeping that hook above the myriad of snags it passes on it's way back to you. Try that with a Longbeach...:P  I decided to hop up my 210, and after installing the bling I like this gem even more!

I started with the prerequisite stainless steel gear sleeve. I used Pro Challenger's 10 tooth ratchet version...and it does appear to reduce backplay a bit. I tossed in Bryan's 5+1 kit, and the drag on this reel feels smoother than any I've done. I suppose the condition of the gears could be helping here...as they looked like they were made yesterday. I topped things off with the Motive Fabrication offset handle and a Pro Challenger 45mm EVA knob. 8)

An old family photo of the 210 with his little brother the Mag 10...great lookin' kids...:D
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4106/35505011201_d7eb0d46fd_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W6ssRx)

Here's the replaced pieces above the new ones...certainly looks more muscular...;)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4004/35505030501_61a4f933b0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W6syAi)

For the new folks on this site, this pic shows how Bryan crams a 5 stack into a 3 stack gear. New ss washers are about half the thickness of stock brass washers. :o
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4053/35505022741_ab5dd66d42_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W6swhv)

Same deal here...new carbontex washers are about half as thick as stock drag washers. :)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4096/34826497273_2b2e2ab342_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/V4uUix)

I had a steel #5-500 gear laid out for this project...never expected to see a steel main already in place! The stock gears looked better than the old Jigmaster's I had prepared...gonna be a gooood day tater! ;D
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4149/35248763710_dd33a1425a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VGP8pm)

Gear stack all reassembled onto the new ss gear sleeve. Hey Keta, got any more of those ss dogs for the 210? 8)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4266/34826496643_2d561b3931_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/V4uU7F)

So here we are, all finished, I really like this!
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4017/35505032361_168f176a65_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W6sz9n)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4231/35635295145_f885c5c187_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WhYcJr)

Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Alto Mare on July 14, 2016, 04:58:19 PM
You take some nice detailed photos Mo. Nice reel!
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: STRIPER LOU on July 14, 2016, 05:00:56 PM
Lookin good Moe!  :)
........Lou
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Bryan Young on July 14, 2016, 05:35:07 PM
Great looking reels Mo.  Wow, those gears are spotless.
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: redsetta on July 14, 2016, 08:41:15 PM
Nice work Mo!
And x2 on the cracker shots.
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers, Justin
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: mo65 on July 14, 2016, 10:41:50 PM
Thanks for the comments guys...glad you liked it. I'm happy as a clam with this reel.  8)
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 14, 2016, 11:39:16 PM
Pretty sweet Mo.
You are doing some good work! ;)
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: mo65 on July 22, 2016, 01:21:39 AM
I put a scale on this reel this evening and made a few pulls. I started at the 10lb. neighborhood which I'll usually be fishing it at, and it pulled off very smooth. I jacked it up to 15lbs...still smooth. Even though I'll never fish there...I cranked the star down as hard as I could by hand and reached 18lbs. This was done at full spool, so I'm sure this thing could produce 20+ with a little line ran off.  8)
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: swill88 on July 22, 2016, 11:37:03 AM

Great report and pics Mo... thanks!

Keep m coming.

steve
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: mo65 on August 10, 2016, 10:51:19 PM
Update on this reel: Just got back from my brother's place. Caught this beast of a Blue Catfish on the 210...it never even broke a sweat. Can't say so much for me...I had jello arms by the time it was in the net. 8)
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: STRIPER LOU on August 10, 2016, 11:22:56 PM
WOW, that's a big cat Moe! Nice work and looks like the reel did exactly what it was suppose too!
......................Lou
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Rancanfish on August 10, 2016, 11:31:40 PM
Meeeeow that's a big one.  Do you eat them that big?
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Alto Mare on August 11, 2016, 12:33:10 AM
Nice one Mo, did you put him back or take him home?
How did that 210 look on the inside, afterwards?

thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: mo65 on August 11, 2016, 01:08:35 AM
Quote from: Rancanfish on August 10, 2016, 11:31:40 PM
 Do you eat them that big?

Oh no, we only eat little ones, this fish was released. 8)

Quote from: Alto Mare on August 11, 2016, 12:33:10 AM
How did that 210 look on the inside, afterwards?

I haven't opened it back up yet...but I'm pretty sure all is well. When the fish pulled drag it felt smooth, and then when it "sat down" on bottom (as big cats often do) I tightened the drag a hair and gave the fish a little encouragement to move. I think they get mad when ya do that...always swim under the boat afterwards! :D
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: thorhammer on August 11, 2016, 10:00:01 AM
Nice Mo! I love a 210 and that's a great cat!

John
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on August 11, 2016, 10:09:56 AM
Nice going Mo :)
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: hurt locker on September 15, 2016, 01:55:19 AM
Very nice job on the reel and great fish. Congratulations on both.
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: alantani on September 15, 2016, 02:00:23 AM
well done! 
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: David Hall on September 15, 2016, 02:57:43 AM
Really enjoyed reading this post, very nice project reel you built and put to work.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Bill B on September 15, 2016, 03:29:56 AM
Cool beans brother.....gonna have to start sending my reels to you for up grades... ;D    Bill
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: gstours on September 16, 2016, 04:57:16 PM
Thanks for the pictures and info, Nice fish too buddy,  I was riding my exersize bike while veiwing and suddenly thought,  I should be Fishing!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Azar on July 26, 2017, 05:52:13 PM
Awesome build and great pics.

Nice to see it getting use, as well!

May I ask where you got that SS gear sleeve?

EDIT: Was it this one?

http://www.prochallenger.com/item/jigmaster-gear-sleeve
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: mo65 on July 27, 2017, 04:06:22 AM
Quote from: Azar on July 26, 2017, 05:52:13 PM
Awesome build and great pics.

Nice to see it getting use, as well!

May I ask where you got that SS gear sleeve?

EDIT: Was it this one?

http://www.prochallenger.com/item/jigmaster-gear-sleeve

   Yep...that's the one. 8)
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: oc1 on July 27, 2017, 08:09:11 AM
Dang.  That's a big catfish.
-steve
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: gstours on July 27, 2017, 03:49:16 PM
Thanks for the very clear pictures of your project reel.  You got the best of the best out of that reel.  You should be very happy!   Untill the wife comes home and see,s it on the new tablecloth...... Ouch. ???
   Getting to use your modified reels is even better than viewing em on the mantel! ;)
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: El Pescador on July 27, 2017, 04:46:52 PM
MO!

What are the differences between your hot-rodded 210 vs. a 309 reel???

Cause I have NO idea.

Thanks.

Wayne
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: mo65 on July 27, 2017, 05:32:42 PM
Quote from: El Pescador on July 27, 2017, 04:46:52 PM
MO!

What are the differences between your hot-rodded 210 vs. a 309 reel???

Cause I have NO idea.

Thanks.

Wayne

Hey Wayne,
   The big differences are stock features, like the 4:1 gears in the 210. Also it has ball bearings and casts a bit better than the 309. I'd say the 309 would be a better winch on a boat, and the 210 better for the river or beach. They both take Bryan's drag kits well with a steel gear sleeve. 8)
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Azar on July 30, 2017, 11:02:04 PM
Quote from: mo65 on July 27, 2017, 04:06:22 AM
Quote from: Azar on July 26, 2017, 05:52:13 PM
Awesome build and great pics.

Nice to see it getting use, as well!

May I ask where you got that SS gear sleeve?

EDIT: Was it this one?

http://www.prochallenger.com/item/jigmaster-gear-sleeve

   Yep...that's the one. 8)

Would I need course thread or fine thread?
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: mo65 on July 30, 2017, 11:14:58 PM
Quote from: Azar on July 30, 2017, 11:02:04 PM
Quote from: mo65 on July 27, 2017, 04:06:22 AM
Quote from: Azar on July 26, 2017, 05:52:13 PM
May I ask where you got that SS gear sleeve? Was it this one?

http://www.prochallenger.com/item/jigmaster-gear-sleeve

   Yep...that's the one. 8)

Would I need course thread or fine thread?


   That will depend on your particular reel. I've seen both on these 210s. I guess the easiest way to tell would be to remove the handle, screw the star off and flip it over. If it's stamped 10-60 it's coarse threaded. If it's stamped 10-505 it's fine threaded. 8)
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 09, 2017, 06:12:27 AM
This is all your fault Mo. >:(
My first 210. A pristine beauty. ;)
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Gfish on August 09, 2017, 02:19:50 PM
The bridge plate in the 210, would onna those aftermarket double dogged ss JM 500 plates fit?
Gfish
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 09, 2017, 04:30:24 PM
I dunno?
I don't think so. The bridge is unavailable from Scott's, so that tells me no.
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: mo65 on August 09, 2017, 07:15:40 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on August 09, 2017, 06:12:27 AM
This is all your fault Mo. >:(
My first 210. A pristine beauty. ;)

  Welcome to the guild Daron! They really are awesome reels...yours looks great! 8)

Quote from: Gfish on August 09, 2017, 02:19:50 PM
The bridge plate in the 210, would onna those aftermarket double dogged ss JM 500 plates fit?
Gfish

  The 210 appears to have it's own bridge, not shared with any other reel. Although I see no reason it couldn't be double dogged in the older fashion of adding a second dog to the bridge screw(and a bit of dremeling), I wouldn't want to take the 210 to drag numbers that call for double dogging. The smaller pinion that makes the higher speed, the levelwind assembly, and only three frame posts are factors that should keep this reel operated around 15lbs. of max drag. Even though my 210 with it's 5 stack will make around 20lbs.(that's approaching double dog range), I'd probably never fish it that high. Just for reference...have you ever pulled line from a reel at 15lbs.? It's a lot stiffer that it sounds.
  On the other hand...a second dog added in alternating mode would be cool...not only for the sound...but for reduced backplay.8)
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Darin Crofton on September 07, 2018, 12:06:10 AM
Quote from: mo65 on July 14, 2016, 04:51:22 PM
The 210 is one of my all time favorites...top of the heap for chasing big catfish in rivers. With the levelwind and 4:1 gearing you can hold the rod high and crank fast on the retrieve, keeping that hook above the myriad of snags it passes on it's way back to you. Try that with a Longbeach...:P  I decided to hop up my 210, and after installing the bling I like this gem even more!

Awesome work! I've been looking for a 210 among others, will refer back to this for reference, thanks!
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: xjchad on April 30, 2019, 06:34:42 PM
Hi Mo,
It looks like your 210 had a stainless (?) spool in the first picture, but an aluminum spool in the finished pics.
What did you swap it from?
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: mo65 on April 30, 2019, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: xjchad on April 30, 2019, 06:34:42 PM
Hi Mo,
It looks like your 210 had a stainless (?) spool in the first picture, but an aluminum spool in the finished pics.
What did you swap it from?


   I bought the aluminum spool on fleabay. It's much lighter than that stainless spool, something to think about if you are casting your 210. 8)
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Ron Jones on April 30, 2019, 10:20:16 PM
If you DID want to run bigger drag numbers on a 210, a new SS 66 stand would help out considerably.
The Man
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: xjchad on April 30, 2019, 10:43:30 PM
Quote from: mo65 on April 30, 2019, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: xjchad on April 30, 2019, 06:34:42 PM
Hi Mo,
It looks like your 210 had a stainless (?) spool in the first picture, but an aluminum spool in the finished pics.
What did you swap it from?


   I bought the aluminum spool on fleabay. It's much lighter than that stainless spool, something to think about if you are casting your 210. 8)

Great, thank you Mo!

Quote from: Ron Jones on April 30, 2019, 10:20:16 PM
If you DID want to run bigger drag numbers on a 210, a new SS 66 stand would help out considerably.
The Man

Good idea Ron!
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Darin Crofton on April 30, 2019, 11:42:26 PM
Quote from: xjchad on April 30, 2019, 10:43:30 PM
Quote from: mo65 on April 30, 2019, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: xjchad on April 30, 2019, 06:34:42 PM
Hi Mo,
It looks like your 210 had a stainless (?) spool in the first picture, but an aluminum spool in the finished pics.
What did you swap it from?


   I bought the aluminum spool on fleabay. It's much lighter than that stainless spool, something to think about if you are casting your 210. 8)

Great, thank you Mo!

Quote from: Ron Jones on April 30, 2019, 10:20:16 PM
If you DID want to run bigger drag numbers on a 210, a new SS 66 stand would help out considerably.
The Man

Good idea Ron!
Did someone get a 210 recently, Chad?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: xjchad on May 01, 2019, 01:03:52 AM
Quote from: Darin Crofton on April 30, 2019, 11:42:26 PM

Did someone get a 210 recently, Chad?  ;D ;D ;D

Yes I did, thank you brother!
I'm torn on this one though! Everything in me wants to tweak it out, but it's so mint, with the box and everything, it's hard to even open it up.
What to do???  ??? :D
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Ron Jones on May 01, 2019, 02:12:53 AM
210s aren't all that expensive, If you like the pretty one find an ugly one.
The Man
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: Darin Crofton on May 01, 2019, 02:21:00 AM
Quote from: xjchad on May 01, 2019, 01:03:52 AM
Quote from: Darin Crofton on April 30, 2019, 11:42:26 PM

Did someone get a 210 recently, Chad?  ;D ;D ;D

Yes I did, thank you brother!
I'm torn on this one though! Everything in me wants to tweak it out, but it's so mint, with the box and everything, it's hard to even open it up.
What to do???  ??? :D
I had a feeling that might happen, but was hoping to see some magic done to it. Either way I'm happy you like it my friend!
Title: Re: A Heavenly 210
Post by: xjchad on May 01, 2019, 03:02:05 PM
Well, at least I have some time to think it over. I still need to finish your Sealines and start scraping together parts.
I also have a homemade 49A and a couple spinners in pieces that I need to put back together.
Just no time lately, but hopefully it will get better soon.
I do have a couple ideas for this 210 Darin  ;)