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Title: YELLOWTAIL FROM SHORE
Post by: Cor on December 29, 2018, 06:46:26 PM
I found a video of shore based fishing I made during 2007.   At the time I was learning how to film and edit and never really got much further then making 2 or 3 videos.

The quality leaves much to be desired and the editing also contains many errors and it is too long so I would not mind if you fast forward.

Nevertheless, it gives some idea of what I do here on the shore fishing front and you can see some fish taking lures which I till today find exiting.

Sadly I also realised that at least three of the guys in the video are no longer with us.

Our Yellowtail are only about 12 lb's on average, that's why we fairly easily lift them out the sea, though its not as easy as it seems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHj90B1-vGs&t=23s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHj90B1-vGs&t=23s)

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Post by: ChileRelleno on December 29, 2018, 07:44:53 PM
In'freaking'credible fishing action in a seriously beautiful and unique spot!   :o

I've seen some other shore fishing videos with large pelagics right up against rocky drop off in deep water.
But this one has a refreshing nostalgic feel to it that is a great break from the newer stuff.

What a blessing to have been/be able to fish such spots and catch those fish.
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Post by: Dominick on December 29, 2018, 08:48:49 PM
Cor, great video.  One question, why the fast retrieve?  It looked like the lure was outrunning the fish on several retrieves.  Also, I never saw squid swimming on the surface.  Pretty unique.  Thanks for posting.  Dominick
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Post by: Alto Mare on December 29, 2018, 08:52:31 PM
cool video!
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Post by: Shark Hunter on December 30, 2018, 12:13:20 AM
Thanks for sharing your Video.
I really enjoyed it.
Nothing like the rush of fish chasing your lures like that! ;)
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Post by: Benni3 on December 30, 2018, 12:46:43 AM
Love it,,,, :D great job on the video,,,,that looks like a blast  ;D
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Post by: Swami805 on December 30, 2018, 01:55:08 AM
Thanks for posting that, That's a very unique fishery, not many places on the planet that's possible. Do you still do it?
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Post by: Cor on December 30, 2018, 02:43:09 AM
I fished there for the first time when I was 12 years old, 1963 and was immediately totally hooked.    The very sad reality is that the place has become totally spoilt by new generation anglers who have no consideration for others.   I was there Yesterday and it was just unfishable because of exces people, casting over one another and a every man for himself attitude.  Leave it there. :'( :'(

I think in most cases the film exaggerates the retrieve speed but Yellowtail usually like a fast retrieve and often thy will turn off if you slow it down.    Those that understand what the fish want will vary the speed to find what works on the day or that  moment.   Often you will see one fish latching on to a lure, but it stays say a number of feet behind without making any effort to get at it.   By subtly increasing your wind you often turn the fish on and catch it.   If you slow down, they mostly turn off.   But in true Yellowtail fashion I have also caught many hundreds of fish on a slow lure ;D

When working an iron in the water (by first sinking it) you can not wind it away from the fish, they can always catch it if they want   Even when using a reel with a 45 inch per handle turn retrieve rate.

Just something about those whales, they really were as close as 10 meters from me at times, I got down there all alone and had a large pod of Southern Right whales who were in a mating game and did not move away.    Sometimes it looks like they come to check who is sitting watching them, you can see their eyes seemingly focused on you.   You may see the female turning on her back or side, that is the whale equivalent of "not tonight dear" ;D

@ Dominick....the squid is right at the end, its a very large red squid, the size of a Humbolt.    I had never seen one before and have not seen one since.  It was found dead a little bit further up the coast a few days later, which probably explains why it was there.  One of our scientific friends identified it as such.
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Post by: Zimbass on December 30, 2018, 04:44:01 AM
Enjoyed the video Corne. Thanks for sharing.

Wanted to ask if your wife gave you the eyeball when you were catching Yellowtail on Christmas day !!! :o

Cheers Bud.

Terry
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Post by: CapeFish on December 30, 2018, 09:34:30 AM
This is mqgnifisc3nt Cor thanks. I watched the other one on youtube a while ago. I saved it. It was fantastic. I have read so many amazing stories of Rooikrantz, even accounts of mackerel of around 8kg coming out there years ago. I would like to go fish there  but have heard of the bad behaviour, so far I have limited myself to the railway line   :)
Title: Re: YELLOWTAIL FROM SHORE
Post by: Cor on December 30, 2018, 10:27:38 AM
Quote from: Zimbass on December 30, 2018, 04:44:01 AM
Enjoyed the video Corne. Thanks for sharing.

Wanted to ask if your wife gave you the eyeball when you were catching Yellowtail on Christmas day !!! :o

Cheers Bud.

Terry
She married me with fishing infatuation and all one lone time ago.    Occasionally I need to remind her of my rights but usually I have sandwiches waiting for me at 05h00 in the morning, including some treats.   :D
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Post by: Maxed Out on December 30, 2018, 05:52:07 PM

Great video Cor......I'm assuming you are one of the old school "springbucks".

What's your personal best catch from the ledges ??

Ted
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Post by: gstours on December 30, 2018, 05:53:56 PM
Thanks for sharing your video with us.     Enjoyed the whale footage the most.   I can see why people worsen.  Exciting and a little dangerous.   Enjoy life while you can  :)
Title: Re: YELLOWTAIL FROM SHORE
Post by: Dominick on December 30, 2018, 05:58:32 PM
Quote from: Cor on December 30, 2018, 02:43:09 AM
 You may see the female turning on her back or side, that is the whale equivalent of "not tonight dear" ;D

...or a whale of a headache.   :D  Dominick

P.S. Thanks for the explanation on the retrieve. 
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Post by: Penn Chronology on December 30, 2018, 09:40:23 PM
Colin, this video brought back memories from five year ago research I did for an article in the "Reel News" ORCA publication. I may have posted the article somewhere else in these forums; but, I want to post it here for you to read and see how it relates to the real life experiences you have had on the Rooikranz. Part of my article moves to the land based fishing in Port Elizabeth, so it has a taste of both oceans. It will take two posts to get the entire article posted.

This article is Chapter 13 in my green book.

I loved the video!!

And thank you Ted for alerting me to the post.....

Mike C.

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Post by: Penn Chronology on December 30, 2018, 09:42:37 PM
OK, here are the last four pages of the article.
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Post by: Penn Chronology on December 30, 2018, 09:45:03 PM
And one of my favorite photos of Mr. Pots and Pans with his home made reel from pots and pans sitting on top of a Great White caught from the rocks.
Title: Re: YELLOWTAIL FROM SHORE
Post by: Dominick on December 30, 2018, 10:11:31 PM
Mike, I loved the article.  Once again your research not only taught us some reel history but entertained also.  Kudos paisano, great stuff.  Dominick
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Post by: Penn Chronology on December 30, 2018, 10:23:14 PM
QuoteMike, I loved the article.  Once again your research not only taught us some reel history but entertained also.  Kudos paisano, great stuff.  Dominick

Thank you!
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Post by: ChileRelleno on December 30, 2018, 11:42:17 PM
Nice article on a truly interesting man, his gear and the style of fishing... I was enthralled reading it... Very cool.
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Post by: Alto Mare on December 31, 2018, 01:08:34 AM
Nice article Micheluccio! I really enjoy the green book and your others as well.

Sal
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Post by: sdlehr on December 31, 2018, 02:12:32 AM
Thanks, Cor! Really cool to see video of a spot I've read stories about.
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Post by: Cor on December 31, 2018, 04:30:32 AM
Quote from: Penn Chronology on December 30, 2018, 09:40:23 PM
Colin, this video brought back memories from five year ago research I did for an article in the "Reel News" ORCA publication. I may have posted the article somewhere else in these forums; but, I want to post it here for you to read and see how it relates to the real life experiences you have had on the Rooikranz. Part of my article moves to the land based fishing in Port Elizabeth, so it has a taste of both oceans. It will take two posts to get the entire article posted.

This article is Chapter 13 in my green book.

I loved the video!!

And thank you Ted for alerting me to the post.....

Mike C.


I fished with many of the "old guys" through the late 60's & 70's and heard so many stories, so a lot of it's history is also before my time.  Over the  years I commented on some parts of your queries on other South African sites.
Ill read your articles and make a note or two.    Mike Stott who featured very prominently in the Cape Town fishing and sporting scene and involved with the Pen 49A was still very much around and fishing those days and I had many conversations with him.    He was probably one of the most colourful characters around then.

I have the digital original of a 16mm movie that was made during the 50s of Rooikrans.   We always tried to keep that kind of stuff away from the public domain as some had the foresight to realise what would happen when too many people became aware of the location.    We regarded Yellowtail fishing as a sport of skill, one that you could not practice with 20 others on one rock.     This movie I attached here I've never made available to anyone other then 2 or 3 very good friends.

Ill get back to this later.

Quote from: Penn Chronology on December 30, 2018, 09:45:03 PM
And one of my favorite photos of Mr. Pots and Pans with his home made reel from pots and pans sitting on top of a Great White caught from the rocks.

I've never see this photo before, the reel looks like a "star drag" system somehow!
Title: Re: YELLOWTAIL FROM SHORE
Post by: mhc on December 31, 2018, 04:41:23 AM
Thanks Cor, not a place for the faint hearted! I don't want to sound alarmist, but has anyone noticed all the open joints and defects in the rock structure?  ::)  ;D
Great insight into the early years as well Mike - the 'pots and pan' reels look interesting.

Mike
Title: Re: YELLOWTAIL FROM SHORE
Post by: Cor on December 31, 2018, 05:15:14 AM
Quote from: mhc on December 31, 2018, 04:41:23 AM
Thanks Cor, not a place for the faint hearted! I don't want to sound alarmist, but has anyone noticed all the open joints and defects in the rock structure?  ::)  ;D
Great insight into the early years as well Mike - the 'pots and pan' reels look interesting.

Mike
Over the years much was changed by man and labour but it also happened naturally by wind and sea.   Ablutions were built, and two concrete huts, both were take away by the sea.   Personally I experienced large pieces of the "solid" mountainside rock just disappearing in to the ocean or chunks falling down from the mountain.  One piece of numerous tons that was a favourite fishing ledge we fished from with perhaps 4 or 5 guys at a time simply broke away and disappeared one winter storm.   Occasionally the place gets hit by very large swells.

Quite a number of anglers have fallen to their death from those ledges.
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Post by: steelfish on December 31, 2018, 11:15:05 PM
Great vĂ­deo and memories

THANKS for sharing
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Post by: Penn Chronology on January 01, 2019, 07:01:22 AM
QuoteMike Stott who featured very prominently in the Cape Town fishing and sporting scene and involved with the Pen 49A was still very much around and fishing those days and I had many conversations with him.    He was probably one of the most colourful characters around then.

What a small world. I find that amazing that you knew Mike Stott. He was the Penn Agent and I believe he is the reason why the Penn 49A exists. He did not build it; but, he brought it to the attention of Penn, which alerted Herbert Henze to the need for a wide, fast reel.

What is also odd is the Penn 349H Wahoo Special custom model that was a Carl Newell in conjunction with Penn creation. It is basically a 49A, but according to some very connected Penn guys, Carl Newell knew nothing of the 49A. The African reels were kept secret until a few discoveries came out of the closet.

QuoteNice article Micheluccio! I really enjoy the green book and your others as well.

Thank Sal. Always happy when someone enjoys my amateur writings.
Title: Re: YELLOWTAIL FROM SHORE
Post by: Cor on January 01, 2019, 11:22:06 AM
Quote from: Penn Chronology on January 01, 2019, 07:01:22 AM
QuoteMike Stott who featured very prominently in the Cape Town fishing and sporting scene and involved with the Pen 49A was still very much around and fishing those days and I had many conversations with him.    He was probably one of the most colourful characters around then.

What a small world. I find that amazing that you knew Mike Stott. He was the Penn Agent and I believe he is the reason why the Penn 49A exists. He did not build it; but, he brought it to the attention of Penn, which alerted Herbert Henze to the need for a wide, fast reel.

What is also odd is the Penn 349H Wahoo Special custom model that was a Carl Newell in conjunction with Penn creation. It is basically a 49A, but according to some very connected Penn guys, Carl Newell knew nothing of the 49A. The African reels were kept secret until a few discoveries came out of the closet.

QuoteNice article Micheluccio! I really enjoy the green book and your others as well.

Thank Sal. Always happy when someone enjoys my amateur writings.

The world is a lot smaller now then it was during the 70's!    In Cape Town the world of shore based Yellowtail fishing was even smaller in days gone bye.    A relatively small number of guys (and a few woman) spent so many hours together in one place, often standing shoulder to shoulder chatting to one another and in the evenings spoke to each other by phone to find out what happened during the day, that it created a lot of camaraderie.

I sent you an E mail to your address registered on the site. 
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Post by: Frank on January 01, 2019, 01:07:14 PM
Thank you Cor. This is the first thing I watched for 2019 and I hope there's more to come. I can't get enough of these home made, true to life fishing adventures. The article is outstanding.

Happy New Year,

Frank
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Post by: conchydong on January 02, 2019, 12:16:04 AM
Great stuff from both Cor and Mike. Fishing is the one thing that we all share a love for no matter where we are geographically located.
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Post by: Cor on January 02, 2019, 08:16:15 AM
For Dominick I've added another video of a place 2 miles away from where the previous was made.    It is just to show that with Yellowtail you just never quite know and constantly need to try what works on the day.    In this film they are taking a very slow surface lure!   I would say in 70% of cases fast is best but sometimes slow is what works ;D

The wind gusts were tremendously strong that day, maybe 40 knots making for very difficult fishing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKUwMlfsIsA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKUwMlfsIsA)

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Post by: Dominick on January 02, 2019, 06:06:52 PM
Thanks Cor.  Instinctively I expected to see some of the fisherman vary the speed of retrieve.  I'm glad that it worked.  Dominick
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Post by: steelfish on January 02, 2019, 06:16:00 PM
that last video remained me when I went to Puerto Vallarta for vacation and some friends invited me to go surf fishing for jack Crevalles.
with some 12ft and 13ft rods and long spool spinning rods, casting some surface lures good for catching rooster fish, jacks, pargo, needlefish, etc.

the technique seems pretty similar to yours, fast retrieve and dont slow down even if you see the fish swin after your lure.
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Post by: Cor on January 02, 2019, 06:34:42 PM
Quote from: steelfish on January 02, 2019, 06:16:00 PM
that last video remained me when I went to Puerto Vallarta for vacation and some friends invited me to go surf fishing for jack Crevalles.
with some 12ft and 13ft rods and long spool spinning rods, casting some surface lures good for catching rooster fish, jacks, pargo, needlefish, etc.

the technique seems pretty similar to yours, fast retrieve and dont slow down even if you see the fish swin after your lure.

Correct....usually!
Looks nice there.