Anyone tried it? I've tied a few with a rizzuto finish and it seems incredibly strong. It is looking like a go to knot for me. I'll try to find some good knot strength testing on the web.
http://youtu.be/ezmzjoXmtzg
It is one of the strongest knot out there but you will get funny looks from traditionalist. It would probably be a great knot for trolling dead bait as it has a nice spring like effect.
I have been using it a lot and it hasn't let me down yet. It is fast to tie when you get used to it
Cheers guys, I'm really happy with it so far.
Any info on how to tie this one would be appreciated
Quote from: Abot on November 22, 2015, 12:07:40 AM
Any info on how to tie this one would be appreciated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-4YPt5mVE0 :)
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A~
Hi Nicko - The only site I know that has done extensive line and knot testing is this one:
http://www.paulusjustfishing.com/
Quote from: Aiala on November 22, 2015, 01:53:45 AM
Quote from: Abot on November 22, 2015, 12:07:40 AM
Any info on how to tie this one would be appreciated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-4YPt5mVE0 :)
~A~
Thank you for the link Aiala
I like the idea behind this knot where there is no stress concentration
I have done a bit more looking around on the net and will try it a bit and report back
Well I think I have plaited or biminied my last double, this is the only knot I have tried that will equal a good good uni knot on a doubled line
There is one proviso, you need to use a sleeve on the loop to the hook or ring, I used 3/8 th of an inch of 130 Dacron, it ended up frayed to hell after a lot of testing but did its job
hi abot
did you try twice through the eye of the hook
instead of a sleeve,
cheers
No I didn't but will try it
i had time today to test the ag knot against the palomar knot(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb326/wallacewt/IMG_2529_zpsd6a3jdqg.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.comhooks and leader.leader is k-mart,$13aud/100m.good stuff,so good i gave fluoro the flick.
1st test. normal palomar/ag,two loops through eye of hook. ag broke at 18lb, pal; wins
2nd test pal/ag both get a sleeve.ag wins.pal breaks at 23lb
3rd test.no sleeve for pal. sleeve for ag. a draw neither broke at 27lb,bucket was full
hooks were tied, 1 on each end of 12" leader material
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb326/wallacewt/IMG_2524_zpsaigoog0i.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/wallacewt/media/IMG_2524_zpsaigoog0i.jpg.html)
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb326/wallacewt/IMG_2528_zps4s82pcpg.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/wallacewt/media/IMG_2528_zps4s82pcpg.jpg.html)
full bucket at 27lb.
nothing scientific about these test,suits me though.
sleeve for ag/no sleeve for palomar
use whichever you like best.it dont matter
You keep experimenting buddy, I'm listening ;)
Just tied my first AG Chain knot, it's a simple as can be. The only concern I have is will the half hitches unravel? If necessary, could touch a flame to the tag end, but would have to be careful about damaging the running line...
So, how many half-hitches are required to make it reliable?
For me this know works ok up to about 80lb mono, but currently the only place where I would use it is connecting my jigging terminals and tying it in the 120lb hard fluorocarbon we're using is a horrible job that requires pliers to cinch each half-hitch to get a knot that isn't horrible.
I'll stick to uni knots for that use-case, for now... at least I can confidently tie them while at sea.
I often tie a chain knot with four to six half-hitches after an Albright knot, improved clinch knot or non-slip loop knot (Homer Rhodes knot). There is always a chain knot with a dozen half-hitches at the end of a FG knot. The chain knot protects the main knot (Albright, clinch, loop, FG) from abrasion. You can also cut the tag end short because if the last half-hitch on the chain knot unravels it does not affect the overall integrity of the connection.
To mushroom the tag end of a knot, hold the knot between thumb and forefinger with only the tag end protruding. Then melt the tip with a lighter. If you do not burn your fingers then you know the knot did not get warm enough to do any damage. Don't mushroom the tag end of a knot that will be cast through the guides.
-steve
I tried tying one of these again last night with 120lb Fluoro. Made a very ugly knot, with such stiff line you can't really get the half-hitches to cinch down well. I'm a bit confused though because apparently this knot excels for knotting heavy fluoro leaders.
However, some very unscientific pull-tests made me think it was also a very strong knot, even with only 6 half-hitches and no rizutto to finish.
Tied another in 80lb mono and that made a very nice knot.
To review, I'm finally getting good at tying these in heavy fluoro. To be honest I wouldn't go back to the uni now. The key is to leave yourself heaps of tag end so you can cinch down the half-hitches as you tie the knot. My Rizutto to finish is still ugly but it definitely makes a very strong knot.