Reel Repair by Alan Tani

So here is a list of my next build candidates.
I've done searches on all of them and know the basics of what can be done.
I'm want to see what you all think and why(if you feel like expounding on it).  :)

   I voted for the 180, just because nobody has done one recently. 8)

magpower cause its a magpower.  Mo I will do a 180 tomorrow just for you :)

Yeah Chad, 970 for sure. Bryan had a drag kit for awhile, you might check and see if he has any. Worth the extra $ for sure.

Sorry. No drag kits available for the 970/980. I sent the all those kits to and are available only at MysticParts.com.

I don't see them on the website. If you a drag kit please call MysticParts. Sorry for the trouble.

"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"

I'd like to see a 180 rebuild; it is one of the lightest.  My preference is to see one not tanked, but made to be a light casting whiz. Thanks for asking.

Just because I'm a little OCD, I'd start with the most basic - the LB 60, to get myself in the mode, then the Delmar, etc., etc.
Gfish

Quote from: Decker on January 16, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
I'd like to see a 180 rebuild; it is one of the lightest.  My preference is to see one not tanked, but made to be a light casting whiz. Thanks for asking.

   To hold you off for now Joe...check out my 180 build...it was intended to be light weight/castable. 8)

   http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=18637.0

   

Quote from: mo65 on January 16, 2018, 02:33:37 PM

Quote from: Decker on January 16, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
I'd like to see a 180 rebuild; it is one of the lightest.  My preference is to see one not tanked, but made to be a light casting whiz. Thanks for asking.

   To hold you off for now Joe...check out my 180 build...it was intended to be light weight/castable. 8)

   http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=18637.0
 

Very nice, Mo.  It's a lot like what I envisioned. 

Quote from: Decker on January 16, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
I'd like to see a 180 rebuild; it is one of the lightest.  My preference is to see one not tanked, but made to be a light casting whiz. Thanks for asking.

I'm doing one this week.

farmer 56  here...  LB 60...  180....  or  10....only  because  i  have  all  three...its  fun  to  see  true  craftsman  at  work  ...  dream  alittle  and  say  "what  if " ...   at  least  our -40  temps  are  moderating ....  farmer out...

Thanks guys, keep the votes and ideas coming!
I'm for sure going to do the Baymaster 180 since it will complement the 155 I just did.  Actually, my son Logan is going to build the 180  ;D
I figured since he took it apart, he should put it back together.
(https://s20.postimg.org/bq5vpl6gt/IMG_3660.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9llioi4u1/)

I'm going for light weight and castability like Mo suggested.  
I have a few neat ideas, but open to anything.
This will be a perfect reel to start him on conventionals!
I figure this will be great for fishing the harbor or the lake.
Just need to find a good rod to match it to for him.  Any suggestions?

   That's cool xjchad! Not only is the 180 small enough for a kid to use it is strong enough to see them to adulthood. Those are tough little reels. Folks use them beyond their design, but it doesn't hurt them. I really like mine. 8)



P.S.  I fish my 180 on a Browning Silaflex 7ft. med/hvy. It seems to pair well.

Hey, I like this!   I have a some young volunteers at my place too.  At this point the reels are mostly serving as fidget-spinners, but yesterday two of my daughters were fighting over which one got to scrub a crusty beachmaster with a toothbrush!  I can picture my son disassembling a baymaster.  Keep them busy with Dad's hobby and out of Mom's hair.  What could be better?

Thanks for the awesome feedback guys!
While Logan is building the 180, I think I'll tear into the 970.  ;D

Quote from: xjchad on January 17, 2018, 10:12:28 AM
Thanks for the awesome feedback guys!
While Logan is building the 180, I think I'll tear into the 970.  ;D

Can't wait to see the picture ;)

Did the 180 come with a metal spool? Here's onea my brother's that I's gonna rebuild, witha plastic spool, but I'd like to have a metal spool, anyone wanna trade if they exist?
Gfish

29L-100 spools are hard to find, there is a NOS 29M-100 on eBay.

Here is a unobtanium 29L-100

http://berinsontackle.com/products-page/4-reel-parts/penn-reel-parts-part-29l-100-spool-for-penn-surfmaster-100-fishing-reel-new/ (http://berinsontackle.com/products-page/4-reel-parts/penn-reel-parts-part-29l-100-spool-for-penn-surfmaster-100-fishing-reel-new/)

Quote from: Keta on January 23, 2018, 03:21:36 AM
29L-100 spools are hard to find, there is a NOS 29M-100 on eBay.

Guess what, Lee. I will be making 29-L-100 spool in aluminum. My resource just got the spool I sent him.

THANK YOU ALEN!!!!!

Randy at VOT might have a spool, he has a pretty bid stash

Quote from: Black Pearl on January 23, 2018, 03:35:08 AM

Quote from: Keta on January 23, 2018, 03:21:36 AM
29L-100 spools are hard to find, there is a NOS 29M-100 on eBay.

Guess what, Lee. I will be making 29-L-100 spool in aluminum. My resource just got the spool I sent him.

AWESOME!!!

Quote from: Gfish on January 23, 2018, 03:10:51 AM
Did the 180 come with a metal spool? Here's onea my brother's that I's gonna rebuild, witha plastic spool, but I'd like to have a metal spool, anyone wanna trade if they exist?
Gfish

The 180 my son is building has the plastic spool.
We're going to trick it out a bit, but an aluminum spool is not on the list. I can't justify $40 for it.
Still planning to Mag it for him though to help him with casting (thinking way outside the box here ;) )

I'll start new build threads for his 180 and my 970 soon!

If you use Daccron or Spectra the plastic spool will be ok, you can break one with mono.

I see on Scotts Penn Reel Parts site that Pro Challenger's got a ss sleeve and frame bars that'll fit the Bay master.
Gfish

Quote from: Black Pearl on January 23, 2018, 03:35:08 AM

Quote from: Keta on January 23, 2018, 03:21:36 AM
29L-100 spools are hard to find, there is a NOS 29M-100 on eBay.

Guess what, Lee. I will be making 29-L-100 spool in aluminum. My resource just got the spool I sent him.

Sweet!!!! I was looking at my Black Pearl blue 501 spool last night and wondering about that!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: Gfish on January 23, 2018, 11:44:46 AM
I see on Scotts Penn Reel Parts site that Pro Challenger's got a ss sleeve and frame bars that'll fit the Bay master.
Gfish

They will work on a Monofil 27 too.

Quote from: Black Pearl on January 23, 2018, 03:35:08 AM
I will be making 29-L-100 spool in aluminum. My resource just got the spool I sent him.

   That's great news. We're talkin' about a spool that fits Baymaster 180, Surfmaster 100, and the Monofil 27, not to mention all the wider versions of these reels can also be converted to a narrow. It should be a great seller!

Quote from: Keta on January 23, 2018, 04:58:05 AM
If you use Dacron or Spectra the plastic spool will be ok, you can break one with mono.

   Lee is right, that little spool will do fine with Dacron, its the type of line they used when plastic spools debuted. I've been fishing one spooled with Dacron for a few years now, it's doing just fine. If you really need to fish mono, wind on about a quarter spool of Dacron first...this will absorb the mono's stretching. And don't wind the mono on under heavy pressure...this is how the stretch develops. He can always get an aluminum spool later...when he steps up to "trophy" Porgies! 8)

Quote from: mo65 on January 23, 2018, 03:01:24 PM

Quote from: Black Pearl on January 23, 2018, 03:35:08 AM
I will be making 29-L-100 spool in aluminum. My resource just got the spool I sent him.

   That's great news. We're talkin' about a spool that fits Baymaster 180, Surfmaster 100, and the Monofil 27, not to mention all the wider versions of these reels can also be converted to a narrow. It should be a great seller!

This is great.  Also will fit a Beachmaster, if custom narrowed. 

The narrowest spools seem always to be the hot sellers, but my personal preference are the mid-size models, like the Surfmaster 150, Jigmaster 99 (Squidder 145).  Someday these will get attention :) 

Quote from: Decker on January 23, 2018, 03:18:01 PM
The narrowest spools seem always to be the hot sellers, but my personal preference are the mid-size models, like the Surfmaster 150, Jigmaster 99 (Squidder 145).  Someday these will get attention :)  

With Spectra the wide and mid width reels are not necessary for most of us.  I do have 99 width Jigmasters, a Surfmaster 250 that I use for trolling reels and a Surfmaster 150 on the shelf.

Quote from: xjchad on January 23, 2018, 04:46:38 AM

Quote from: Gfish on January 23, 2018, 03:10:51 AM
Did the 180 come with a metal spool? Here's onea my brother's that I's gonna rebuild, witha plastic spool, but I'd like to have a metal spool, anyone wanna trade if they exist?
Gfish

The 180 my son is building has the plastic spool.
We're going to trick it out a bit, but an aluminum spool is not on the list. I can't justify $40 for it.
Still planning to Mag it for him though to help him with casting (thinking way outside the box here ;) )

I'll start new build threads for his 180 and my 970 soon!

The magnets won't slow a plastic spool.

Quote from: swill88 on January 23, 2018, 04:06:37 PM

Quote from: xjchad on January 23, 2018, 04:46:38 AM

Quote from: Gfish on January 23, 2018, 03:10:51 AM
Did the 180 come with a metal spool? Here's onea my brother's that I's gonna rebuild, witha plastic spool, but I'd like to have a metal spool, anyone wanna trade if they exist?
Gfish

The 180 my son is building has the plastic spool.
We're going to trick it out a bit, but an aluminum spool is not on the list. I can't justify $40 for it.
Still planning to Mag it for him though to help him with casting (thinking way outside the box here ;) )

I'll start new build threads for his 180 and my 970 soon!

The magnets won't slow a plastic spool.

Yep, I understand that, but I've been trying to take the advice that Sal shares in his signature, "Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will."
So I'm thinking way outside the box here... maybe too far  ;D

Quote from: xjchad on January 23, 2018, 04:18:48 PM
So I'm thinking way outside the box here... maybe too far  ;D

   I thought you meant it was going to be magged for a future metal spool...that's not too far outside the box. :D

Glue metal to the spool.

Quote from: Keta on January 23, 2018, 04:32:24 PM
Glue metal to the spool.

I learned something! Thanks Lee.

Please ignore my comment Chad

If ya glue metal to a plastic spool and it works, please take a picture!
Gfish

Somebody did that... not sure if it was here.  I think they used a copper washer?  Trick is to balance it right, I guess.

Quote from: Decker on January 23, 2018, 03:18:01 PM
The narrowest spools seem always to be the hot sellers, but my personal preference are the mid-size models, like the Surfmaster 150, Jigmaster 99 (Squidder 145).  Someday these will get attention :)  

I just got a stainless 30-66 stand for the post '90 Seaboy 190 project and it is 90% done, the post '90 Seaboy 185 was finished a few weeks ago.  I need a handle arm to put the AT "hotdog" shaped handle on to finish.  This "mid width" reel will be used for mid depth lingcod and inshore Pacific halibut, 250'-350'.  The extra line capacity will be nice to have when fishing deep and with any drift.

Quote from: Decker on January 23, 2018, 07:29:55 PM
Trick is to balance it right, I guess.

Yes, you are right.

Quote from: Keta on January 23, 2018, 07:58:51 PM

I just got a stainless 30-66 stand for the post '90 Seaboy 190 project and it is 90% done, the post '90 Seaboy 185 was finished a few weeks ago.  I need a handle arm to put the AT "hotdog" shaped handle on to finish.  This "mid width" reel will be used for mid depth lingcod and inshore Pacific halibut, 250'-350'.  The extra line capacity will be nice to have when fishing deep and with any drift.

The 30-66 stand is one of my favorite parts.  They fit a several mid-size reels and come in stainless steel.

Lee, weren't you working on getting some SS arms cut?  Hope to see a posting about the Seaboy soon.

Fishing in the Northeast is very different from where you are (and not as good ::) ) but I very much enjoy hearing about it.   
 

The kidney bolder of the month problem I had last year put a hold on my life.  Right now I have a pet one camped in my ureter but I am pain free.  As soon as I get caught up with reel repair I will start back on that project.

Get well, Lee.

Quote from: Decker on January 23, 2018, 08:32:11 PM
Get well, Lee.

X2!

Thank you.  I'm drinking 3-4 liters of water a day and quit eating food with high oxalate, most of the things I like to eat.

Here are the links to the build threads.

My 970 Power Mag: http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=24160.0

My son's Penn 180: http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=24184.0