Some time ago there was a recommendation for split ring pliars and I can not find the thread. I need a good pair and do not want to deal with trash that will not open a Owner Ultra or Hyper split ring.
HPA's will open those easily. I use the HPA's and Texas Tackle.
Lee I have used Texas Tackle in all three sizes - can't fault 'em :)
Some time ago I did try and find the OEM - all I did find was that they were made in Pakistan.
The Halco ones look functional too, but I haven't tried 'em.
The TT type can only open a ring to the size of the 'tooth' and definitely struggle with the larger/heavier rings. The bypass types like the HPA's can open to the height of the right angle jaw. I don't know if there's a name for the HPA style but they are available from other companies too. I got mine from Trophy Tackle in NY. They ain't cheap! I've had people on my long trips ask to borrow them since their pliers couldn't handle the big rings that the TT style bounce off of. Most of my tools are ones that someone on one of my trips had... I ordered a new pair of cutters while on my last 10 day and had it waiting for me when I got home.
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Staple remover works for cheap. Dominick
Quote from: Dominick on December 13, 2019, 07:00:55 PM
Staple remover works for cheap. Dominick
You saw the same LifeHacks video (for opening keyrings) that my 11yo showed me! (or maybe you even made that video yourself ;D )
Lets see that staple remover open up a #10 Owner Ultra split ring wide enough to put on a 7/0 Jobu hook!
Quote from: MarkT on December 13, 2019, 03:36:46 PM
The TT type can only open a ring to the size of the 'tooth' and definitely struggle with the larger/heavier rings. The bypass types like the HPA's can open to the height of the right angle jaw. I don't know if there's a name for the HPA style but they are available from other companies too. I got mine from Trophy Tackle in NY. They ain't cheap! I've had people on my long trips ask to borrow them since their pliers couldn't handle the big rings that the TT style bounce off of. Most of my tools are ones that someone on one of my trips had... I ordered a new pair of cutters while on my last 10 day and had it waiting for me when I got home.
Mark
I heard that Trophy Tackle has closed. Sad day for me.
Mike
Rapala has a fishing plier set that will handle even dinky split rings.
Quote from: bluefish69 on December 14, 2019, 01:15:36 AM
Quote from: MarkT on December 13, 2019, 03:36:46 PM
The TT type can only open a ring to the size of the 'tooth' and definitely struggle with the larger/heavier rings. The bypass types like the HPA's can open to the height of the right angle jaw. I don't know if there's a name for the HPA style but they are available from other companies too. I got mine from Trophy Tackle in NY. They ain't cheap! I've had people on my long trips ask to borrow them since their pliers couldn't handle the big rings that the TT style bounce off of. Most of my tools are ones that someone on one of my trips had... I ordered a new pair of cutters while on my last 10 day and had it waiting for me when I got home.
Mark
I heard that Trophy Tackle has closed. Sad day for me.
Mike
I don't think so. John has been posting on Bloodydecks today that he just got in more of the new Long Range version of the Nomad DTX 220's.
Quote from: MarkT on December 13, 2019, 02:54:53 PM
HPA's will open those easily. I use the HPA's and Texas Tackle.
Bula Lee,
These Texas tackle ones (green handle) are the best and most reliable I've ever had. Best $18 I ever spent on a fishing tool.Works on everything from the heaviest rings for big GTs to small inshore & river tackle.
The Rapala ones rust and snap off at the jaws eventually, but work ok for the smaller rings.
The blue handled XL Texas Tackle pliers will open up rings a lot better than the L's as long as they fit inside the ring.
Quote from: MarkT on December 14, 2019, 01:42:53 AM
Quote from: bluefish69 on December 14, 2019, 01:15:36 AM
Quote from: MarkT on December 13, 2019, 03:36:46 PM
The TT type can only open a ring to the size of the 'tooth' and definitely struggle with the larger/heavier rings. The bypass types like the HPA's can open to the height of the right angle jaw. I don't know if there's a name for the HPA style but they are available from other companies too. I got mine from Trophy Tackle in NY. They ain't cheap! I've had people on my long trips ask to borrow them since their pliers couldn't handle the big rings that the TT style bounce off of. Most of my tools are ones that someone on one of my trips had... I ordered a new pair of cutters while on my last 10 day and had it waiting for me when I got home.
Mark
I heard that Trophy Tackle has closed. Sad day for me.
Mike
I don't think so. John has been posting on Bloodydecks today that he just got in more of the new Long Range version of the Nomad DTX 220's.
I'll call tomorrow to check. There were no new catalogs this year - yet
Quote from: MarkT on December 14, 2019, 12:23:30 AM
Lets see that staple remover open up a #10 Owner Ultra split ring wide enough to put on a 7/0 Jobu hook!
I don't know what a #10 split ring looks so I can't comment but I have used the staple remover on a bunch. Wayne gave me a Shimano split ring pliers and they work OK. Thanks Wayno. Dominick
Pleasure Dominick!
I enjoy handing out tools to others that work for me. Owner Hyper Wire Split Rings work for me.
My Shimano Split ring pliers are perfect for #7 rings and below.
My packet of #8 split rings is min. strenth - 240 lbs. and I struggle with my Shimano Split ring pliers to open them wide enough for my hook eye to pass thru.
Mark - what is the strength of your #10 split rings????
Here are a few examples.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/31/7588_14_12_19_3_38_39_310021744.jpeg)
(https://alantani.com/gallery/31/7588_14_12_19_3_39_12_31032719.jpeg)
I need to step up to Mark's split ring plier suggestion before my next Cabo Trip.
Either the Blue handle XL Texas Tackle or the HFA model which I've never heard of.
My Orange Handle Texas Tackle is fine until I reach #7 rings. Perfect for bass & trout for sure.
Wayne
i use these special designed rings and dont need any plier.
https://us-sakura-rod.jimdofree.com/products-1/bouz-ring/
Optained the rings from the following Austrian dealer:
www.tackleking.eu/lang-en/swivel-carabiner/313-bouz-sprengringe.html
Quote from: El Pescador on December 14, 2019, 10:48:08 PM
Pleasure Dominick!
I enjoy handing out tools to others that work for me. Owner Hyper Wire Split Rings work for me.
My Shimano Split ring pliers are perfect for #7 rings and below.
My packet of #8 split rings is min. strenth - 240 lbs. and I struggle with my Shimano Split ring pliers to open them wide enough for my hook eye to pass thru.
Mark - what is the strength of your #10 split rings????
Here are a few examples.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/31/7588_14_12_19_3_38_39_310021744.jpeg)
(https://alantani.com/gallery/31/7588_14_12_19_3_39_12_31032719.jpeg)
I need to step up to Mark's split ring plier suggestion before my next Cabo Trip.
Either the Blue handle XL Texas Tackle or the HFA model which I've never heard of.
My Orange Handle Texas Tackle is fine until I reach #7 rings. Perfect for bass & trout for sure.
Wayne
Owner ultra #10 are 370#!
Yes yes, this is when the men ask the boys a question! :D After about size ? maybe 7 its becoming a problem to install the heavier split rings on a wire or hook. Not suprised actually, as Ive asked this question before . After about size 10 most split ring pliers seem to be maxxed out.
Manufactureres may not seem interested in this small market and I,m not caring as for me it becomes a do it yoursef tool. ;)
Seems like Dominick's staple remover with a big pair of vice grip pliers to mash it down would be the ticket. The staple remover takes a larger bite and the ring cannot roll over on itself. But, the staple remover has no mechanical advantage in applying pressure the way a pliers-like tool does.
-steve
Yes, it seems like the staple remover would be the solution butt, try it. The larger rings resist opening and the opener lacks the power without leverage of handles. Spreading more than about 3/16 inch seems very difficult and the-ring wants to roll over.
This is why I am interested in welded rings for the jigs I cannot spread a size 10 enough. Putting a split ring on. A welded ring then is quite easy.
These multi functional pliers are fine and cheep. Butt not able to spread wide enough for the larger rings. The better split ring pliers are only split ring.
Shimano markets a pair for fifty dollars. They could be the ticket for the well heeled fisher?
At least they have a self opening spring! ;D
The Texas Tackle pliers are single function split ring pliers. The HPA's are more general purpose.
Nomad makes split ring pliers with a jaw like the HPA's as does Jigging World and p-pline and the p-lines are $17 at Cabellas or on Amazon... https://www.amazon.com/P-Line-Chrome-Vanadium-Pliers-6-5-Inch/dp/B004RDPFQA/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA0NfvBRCVARIsAO4930n6Wd9YmLHNOkWO1yONoYd6E2aUPeFXWy76ls_DxI-Q06gpou9Ts-kaAu2eEALw_wcB&hvadid=178146560077&hvdev=t&hvlocphy=9031563&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t2&hvqmt=e&hvrand=4135400549577213423&hvtargid=kwd-33996239082&hydadcr=9690_9896393&keywords=heavy+duty+split+ring+pliers&qid=1576437466&sr=8-4
I ordered a pair from Amazon and will compare them head to head with the HPA's.
HPA on top and PLine on the bottom both opening an Owner Hyperwire #10. HPA opens it further but the PLine cost 1/3 of what the HPA's go for!
Thanks for the last big picture Mark T. Here is an idea I never thought of in the difference in design between the more popular and meant for smaller to midsize split rings, and the big boy ring pliers. Very good photo of the difference as the little wedge vee thing is very limited in the spreading of the ring. Thanks again. ;)
I just got my Texas Tackle Blue from Amazon, don't remember what I paid but they work great on the biggest split rings, im able, (with a bit of effort) to get a Owner 13/0 super mutu through the ring.
I bought the TT set and they do the job, thank you.
Thanks for sharing your information. At first we all may have thought that split ring pliers were basically the same in design. Butt now we can see a difference.
Pick your poison 🎣
After struggling with Shimanos I got all 3 sizes of the Texas Tackle. They work well but suffer from the same problem as the Shimano's, the rubber grips slip on the steel handles inside. Tried CA glue, no help.
Quote from: Recoil Rob on February 04, 2020, 01:01:13 AM
the rubber grips slip on the steel handles inside.
I hate that and usually just throw the rubber away when it gets loose and wrap the handle with duct tape.
-steve
Quote from: gstours on December 15, 2019, 05:48:36 PM
These multi functional pliers are fine and cheep. Butt not able to spread wide enough for the larger rings. The better split ring pliers are only split ring.
Shimano markets a pair for fifty dollars. They could be the ticket for the well heeled fisher?
At least they have a self opening spring! ;D
I have a similar spring loaded one, the "nose" is much longer though so it opens rings nice and wide. The spring unfortunately has snapped. I bought it years ago and have not seen one again. The handle looks the same as yours, just yellow instead of orange. It also has a nice cutter that is not too bad, I have even cut steel cable with it