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Title: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: 54bullseye on January 27, 2022, 11:21:02 AM
These stripper guides came on two old root beer colored 130 lb big game rods.

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I haven't seen any others like them. They have the two main big rollers like regular double roller guides but they also have long upright rollers to protect line from any abrasion from sides of guides. They would be great for wide reels !!!

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The whole rod has big old rollers which I have seen before I think they are either Mildrum's or Allan guides but I have never seen those strippers before ???  Anyone seen others like them or have any idea who made them ? Any info would be great !!
Thanks John Taylor

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Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: oc1 on January 27, 2022, 11:25:17 AM
pitchers?

If the rootbeer rods show the weave of hexcell cloth they would have been from the 1950's.
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: 54bullseye on January 27, 2022, 02:08:45 PM
Having picture problems again LOL !!! Gonna work on it !!  JT
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: 54bullseye on January 27, 2022, 02:14:21 PM
Quote from: oc1 on January 27, 2022, 11:25:17 AM
pitchers?

If the rootbeer rods show the weave of hexcell cloth they would have been from the 1950's.

Go to Gallery you can see them. I can't seem to post them !!  AGAIN !!
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: Keta on January 27, 2022, 02:31:04 PM

This work?

(https://alantani.com/gallery/36/10547_27_01_22_12_12_07_36254706.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/36/10547_27_01_22_12_11_54_36253660.jpeg)z
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: 54bullseye on January 27, 2022, 02:52:56 PM
Thank you !!!!!~
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: thorhammer on January 27, 2022, 04:39:12 PM
Allen's, maybe, I really don't know. But what I DO know is, those rods' color schemes are gorgeous.The colors, wood and varnish make me want to pour a double Angel's Envy and put on an ascot to look at them. I lament the passing of Gudebrod Trimar. What's out now is really not even close. I hoard whatever I can scrounge for special builds. No idea where you find this stuff, but keep the pics coming!!!!!
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: oc1 on January 27, 2022, 06:48:24 PM
That's really cool.  Not Mildrums.  I agree, probably Allans.
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: oldmanjoe on January 27, 2022, 11:17:20 PM
 :)  I think it is home made , built on a allen base !
 
    Look at the stick on the left and the right vertical roller , is it loose ?
        (https://alantani.com/gallery/36/10547_27_01_22_12_11_54_36253660.jpeg)
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: 54bullseye on January 28, 2022, 10:59:10 AM
Quote from: oldmanjoe on January 27, 2022, 11:17:20 PM
:)  I think it is home made , built on a allen base !
 
    Look at the stick on the left and the right vertical roller , is it loose ?
        (https://alantani.com/gallery/36/10547_27_01_22_12_11_54_36253660.jpeg)

Last night I cleaned the old guides up and I now agree with oldmanjoe !! It looks like the main blocks of the stripper guide were custom "home" made but nicely done. There are small but long machine screws coming up from the bottom of blocks that hold the long vertical rollers "and yes one looks short" . Looks like the big main rollers were the originals from stock guides and re mounted in custom blocks. The finish on the big arches is dull compared to the others a looks like they were heated and you cane see they filed groves in the arch for the head of the long screws.   oldmanjoe You nailed it !!!    Thanks !!    John Taylor
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: thorhammer on January 28, 2022, 12:15:02 PM
That's a great piece of forensic eyeballing! More impressive is the job- to be sure they didn't likely have a dremel around at that point and it was all hand-tooled.
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: 54bullseye on January 28, 2022, 03:28:58 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on January 28, 2022, 12:15:02 PM
That's a great piece of forensic eyeballing! More impressive is the job- to be sure they didn't likely have a dremel around at that point and it was all hand-tooled.

Probably late 50s or 60s  Neat guides !!   JT
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: oldmanjoe on January 28, 2022, 08:34:02 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on January 28, 2022, 12:15:02 PM
That's a great piece of forensic eyeballing! More impressive is the job- to be sure they didn't likely have a dremel around at that point and it was all hand-tooled.
???    Don`t you remember the old Dentist drill !    The dremel came out in 1934 ...

       
     
           
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: Midway Tommy on January 28, 2022, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: oldmanjoe on January 28, 2022, 08:34:02 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on January 28, 2022, 12:15:02 PM
That's a great piece of forensic eyeballing! More impressive is the job- to be sure they didn't likely have a dremel around at that point and it was all hand-tooled.
???    Don`t you remember the old Dentist drill !    The dremel came out in 1934 ...         


Heck, my GP used one in the late '70s to grind scar tissue off the top of my ear after I cut the top of it off on a table saw top.  ::)  Too long a story for today, though.   :o
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: thorhammer on January 28, 2022, 09:49:34 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 28, 2022, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: oldmanjoe on January 28, 2022, 08:34:02 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on January 28, 2022, 12:15:02 PM
That's a great piece of forensic eyeballing! More impressive is the job- to be sure they didn't likely have a dremel around at that point and it was all hand-tooled.
???    Don`t you remember the old Dentist drill !    The dremel came out in 1934 ...         


Heck, my GP used one in the late '70s to grind scar tissue off the top of my ear after I cut the top of it off on a table saw top.  ::)  Too long a story for today, though.   :o



Naw thats quite the story for today! Lemme 'ear it :)
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: oldmanjoe on January 28, 2022, 10:12:22 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on January 28, 2022, 09:49:34 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 28, 2022, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: oldmanjoe on January 28, 2022, 08:34:02 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on January 28, 2022, 12:15:02 PM
That's a great piece of forensic eyeballing! More impressive is the job- to be sure they didn't likely have a dremel around at that point and it was all hand-tooled.
???    Don`t you remember the old Dentist drill !    The dremel came out in 1934 ...         


Heck, my GP used one in the late '70s to grind scar tissue off the top of my ear after I cut the top of it off on a table saw top.  ::)  Too long a story for today, though.   :o



Naw thats quite the story for today! Lemme 'ear it :)
I bet it had to do with a kick back to the gut and ................
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: Midway Tommy on January 29, 2022, 04:00:51 AM
Quote from: oldmanjoe on January 28, 2022, 10:12:22 PM
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              I bet it had to do with a kick back to the gut and ................

I'll bet it didn't. In 50 years of using a table saw the only kickbacks I ever had were the 3/8" x 3/8" pieces off of 3/8" overlay cabinet doors & drawers, and I made sure I was standing off to the side when rabbeting those.
Title: Re: I need help identifying some old roller guides
Post by: oc1 on January 29, 2022, 05:01:42 AM
Foredom started in 1922.  To this day, everybody should have one.

Good sleuthing Joe.