Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Quote from: steelfish on December 04, 2025, 06:14:54 PMso, with this metal washers you should just reduce a little bit the OD of each washer and with care file down the ID to reach the 10 x 12.5 mm of the stock sealine 50H washers.

you can play with the thinner 0.5mm eared washer and the 1.0 keyed washer (from 500L) to reach the 8.8 mm of the stock drag stack of the sealine 50H


it seems that you had to order the UU 5+1 kit for the 112h instead of the UU 5+1 kit for the 114 reel, while the  its not perfect fit for the sealine 50H with bit of mod it will fit
https://www.mysticparts.com/CustomParts/UltimateUpgrades/UU-PENN500.aspx

Wow, Alex, you really put a lot of thought into this!  I did do a comparison with the Jigmaster drags, but was scared off by the thought of messing with the ID of the keyed washers, because they ride on sleeve, and I imagine that any unevenness in enlarging the ID would lead to a wobbly drag.  I actually did find keyed washers AND precut carbon washers for sale on the web - see a couple of posts back.

I really appreciate your mental gymnastics to help me out!

Quote from: Joel.B on December 04, 2025, 05:42:49 PM

Quote from: Maxed Out on December 04, 2025, 05:32:06 PMA 1940 pic with a color camera ??

Alex forgot to put the Mexican filter on the pic before posting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_filter

    I didnt knew there was a thing named mexican filter, but yeap, I forgot to used it on the pic 

Quote from: Decker on December 03, 2025, 05:17:02 PMHi there, Alex, thanks for offering to help:

Quote from: steelfish on December 02, 2025, 08:55:31 PMcan you tell me the ID hole size (or the size of the shaft sleeve) and OD diameter of the stock keyed metal washer?

The hole of the stock keyed washer is 12.5mm on the round dimension and 10.0mm on the flat dimension.

The thinnest Daiwa stock keyed washer I have is 1.4mm thick.  Currently I have only one and need two more for a 5-stack.  I may be able to steal some more from other Daiwa reels, but if you have anything close to that, please let me know.

I think I'll be able to use two of the Bryan eared washers from the 114 kit. The inner diameter of that washer is 14.2, so it won't touch the sleeve, but I don't think that matters. The outer diameter is about 24.5mm, compared to 24.2mm of the inside of the gear, so can be shaved down.  No one has responded to the question I raised about fitting only on the outside diameter and ears, but it should work. 

If I use .6mm Carbontex, here is the math: (5*.6)+(3*1.4)+(2*.5)=8.2mm

The original stack is 8.8, so probably I can use one HT100 washer (1.1mm) in place of a carbontex to hit the right thickness range.

If .6mm is thinner than recommended (as you suggested) then I would need to find some thinner keyed washers to make a 5-stack.

Hope all that is clear.  Let me know if you have any thoughts.

Cheers,
/Joe

Amigo Joe,
I was looking on my mixed-match of metal washers I have for when I was making my own 7+1 for the 113h and 5+1 Saline 400H, as I said before, bought some metal eared and keyed washers from other reels that were thinner than the stock metal washers and that might need some adjust on the ID hole or OD diameter, I also carnivalized drag washers and metal washers from other reels that didnt worth to be repaired as some from the Basspro shop brand.

anyway, while checking all those and the measures you sent me from the stock sealine 50H washers:
OD  24.2 mm
ID hole 10 x 12.5 mm
drag stack 8.8 mm

I found out that stock metal washers from the good old jigmaster 500L / penn senator 112H could be a good option for your 5+1 kit with little modification, and HT-100 stock drag washers almost none mod to fit .

next are the measures of Stock 112h/500L metal washers

Keyed Metal washer
OD 24.5 mm
ID hole 8.8 x 10.3 mm
thickness 1.0 mm

Eared Metal washer
OD 24.5 mm
ID 11 mm
thickness 1.1 mm

HT-100 drag washer
OD 24.5 mm
ID 10.7 mm
thickness 0.7 mm

stock drag stack size
9.6 mm


so, with this metal washers you should just reduce a little bit the OD of each washer and with care file down the ID to reach the 10 x 12.5 mm of the stock sealine 50H washers.

you can play with the thinner 0.5mm eared washer and the 1.0 keyed washer (from 500L) to reach the 8.8 mm of the stock drag stack of the sealine 50H


it seems that you had to order the UU 5+1 kit for the 112h instead of the UU 5+1 kit for the 114 reel, while the  its not perfect fit for the sealine 50H with bit of mod it will fit
https://www.mysticparts.com/CustomParts/UltimateUpgrades/UU-PENN500.aspx

Smooth drag might have the CF washers that are close.

Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on December 04, 2025, 04:54:46 PMSpeaking of calipers. What's the width of the round part and width of the flat part? Also what is the height of the stock drag stack? I've got a few ideas but I don't wanna blurt them out til I've done the sniff test.

Hey Jason,

• The hole of the stock keyed washer is 12.5mm on the round dimension and 10.0mm on the flat dimension.
• The original stack is 8.8mm.

I think I may have found what I need on the web! Emailed Andy at TunasReelTroubles.com (https://stores.tunasreeltroubles.com/)and he has the keyed washers in the right thickness.  Also, he sells carbon disks in various outer diameters and thicknesses. They need the ID drilled. $4 a disk but this might just do it!    I love DIY, but "get her done" takes precedence.

Quote from: Maxed Out on December 04, 2025, 05:32:06 PMA 1940 pic with a color camera ??

Alex forgot to put the Mexican filter on the pic before posting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_filter

I had it down all the way, cleaned it bare, rusty bearings. I lapped it with light compound and put some heavy grease in there to smooth it out, better than it was but would like to replace it if I could. I am tempted to add some heat and pull but wanted to be sure it was supposed to come out before I got too crazy

 A 1940 pic with a color camera ??

Speaking of calipers. What's the width of the round part and width of the flat part? Also what is the height of the stock drag stack? I've got a few ideas but I don't wanna blurt them out til I've done the sniff test.

thanks Fred, going to buy a couple for the wife and maybe one for me. She has a sewing/quilting room that I hear is pretty nice.