After a long hiatus reading on this site I came back a month or so ago for reference on 5 113h's I was readying/rebuilding for wire line trolling and discovered all kinds of mods you guys have been playing with for the good old Made in USA Penn reels. Inspired, I dusted off my Tiburon T4N frame that I bought many years ago and never used and fired up my paypal account.
Most of my parts are here, still need a handle and maybe a 7 stack but all is good to start the build. This will progress at a leisurely pace so you (and I) can enjoy the build. Always looking for feedback so feel free to chime in.
First pic are the reels needed to start. The one with the frame on it is stock, just put together as a place holder years ago and the other one is a nice old girl that the side plates will be used for the finished tank.
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Pic of the disassembly. Yes that is a Baja Special in the corner, I have a problem.
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Pic of the frame and some goodies from Alan, Lee and Black pearl.
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And the side plates which will be used for the completed reel. The one on the right has been buffed, one on left not yet. Off we go.
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Here's a question.
When the drive gear engages the spool, it hangs up a little bit. Should I file, lap or relieve this connection? Or just let it wear in?
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Nice, especially the maroon side plates.
I'd dress the spool shaft with a fine file or stone.
I hit the flats with a fine stone. Upon inspection with magnifying glasses there were small burrs on the ends.
Much better now.
Nice reel! It's official, you've joined the dark side. ;) ;D Bob
Looking good there TT. Anytime you put in a ss yoke, on any Senator, you need to hit the jack tabs with some fine emery cloth, or they will hang up. If you force the freespool lever, you will Break the tab off the side plate. I've seen it happen.
I have yet to get a Baja Special. Nothing wrong with your Problem. ;)
Thanks for the tip SH. Upon closer inspection, the older reel seems to have rounded tabs (on left in pic) and the newer part ends are squared off. Which should I use? Also, should I chamfer the SS yoke a little where it contacts the tabs? It has a noticeable "round" side from the water jet or stamp that cut it out. I'll be sure to put that side in contact with the tabs.
Another question. For the bridge post, what is the best lube to use under the sleeve? Blue grease seems like it would stay best but a lighter oil seems like it would be better for maintenance since the grease would block any future "oilings".
Thanks again guys.
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Sides of the tabs are fine, ease the top edge a little with a file, fine sandpaper or anything you have and it will cure it. Rounded stamped part of the yoke should always face up.
For the sleeve you could use grease or oil, I'm starting to use Reel-X on my.
You Know TT, eventually we will get your name, we always do ;D
Sal
No secret on my first name Sal, it's Bryan. I've actually been around here for a while, just not active in the posting. Here's my original post.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=139.0
If you mean the TechTeach thing, I'm a high school shop teacher.
Also I'm going to be looking to you for guidance on the double dog step, here is the initial layout. I think I'm going to go the solder route to keep the dog spring in. You can see the scribe line of the side of the plate. Should I relieve the dog a little to make room for the spring?
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Quote from: TechTeach2530 on May 04, 2014, 01:11:49 PM
.... I'm a high school shop teacher. [/img]
Nice to see someone teaching kids how to use their hands. The last "real job' I did was setting up a wood and metal shop in a new high school in southern Washington state, I was the head millwright for the company but I did the work on this one. Everything was first class unlike the schools in southern Oregon where I live that are always short on funding.
Bryan, it will help if you do shave a little off, Here is how I do it
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I remove the material shown in black and the dog gets rounded a little more, by the red line.
Sorry I didn't remember your name, that was before I was born ;D
Thanks for the guidance Sal, looks like the Dremel is the next step for me.
Got the side plates buffed out and waxed today. All dressed up now. The pics don't do them justice.
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Played with the second dog cutout today, still needs more work.
I'm trying to use a ball end mill to create a pocket for the spring to ride in and avoid the need for solder. We'll see if it works. If not I got a tourch and plenty of flux.
Any advice appreciated.
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Good Job Bryan, nice and clean.
Sal
Yes, Good Job Bryan! ;D
This is what mine looks like with the bridge screwed down. I don't think that spring is going anywhere. Your cut looks just like mine.
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So I played with the spring pocket a little this morning before the Mom's day festivities commenced and this is how it fits now. Everything seems to work. If you look closely I carved a "pocket" with a ball end mill in the Dremel to hold the spring in. Looks like I will not need to add any solder to the bridge. Should I be concerned with the way the base of the spring bends? Still need a tad more cleanup with a straight bit but happy for now.
As always, advice appreciated.
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Looks so easy the double Dog job
That looks perfect. Just make sure there is room when the dog is disengaged and not pushing hard on the ratchet.
Looks great..!
x3 ;) ;) ;)
As old as this thread is. There is nothing like some double dogging to an old Senator.
I haven't seen this one, but the Teacher did a fine job on it. ;)
Perfect.!! I really like the polished side plates. That's a job in itself.
Thanks!
Time to get back to this project!!
Its finished and working but I never fished it.
Needs a new handle and a few other upgrades.
Bryan, what did you use to buff the plates? nice rig.
John
Wow! 5 years isn't bad ;D
Glad to see you're back on it after such a long break.
Sal
Quote from: thorhammer on February 21, 2019, 05:05:11 PM
Bryan, what did you use to buff the plates? nice rig.
John
Rugular buffing compound.
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 21, 2019, 09:44:59 PM
Wow! 5 years isn't bad ;D
Glad to see you're back on it after such a long break.
Sal
Never really stopped, just with that project.