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Fishing Rods => Fishing Rods => Topic started by: Tuffecs on September 17, 2021, 12:52:03 PM

Title: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: Tuffecs on September 17, 2021, 12:52:03 PM
Received this new Berrypro surf casting rod from Amazon recently.  Am impressed with quality and price.  Casts well, but there's a slight issue.  When the butt rests on my thigh area while I'm reeling, the butt end tends to slip off.  The end is not grippy.  Material is made of plastic of sorts.  Should be an easy fix.

So, looking for ideas.

What can I do to make it grippy?
Remove and replace with some other material (cork)?
Glue some rubber material in the shape of a quarter?
Roughen or score the end?

Whatever the fix, it should fit in my sand spike.
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: philaroman on September 17, 2021, 01:26:22 PM
there's this rare, specialized abrasive compound...  wait, I'll think of it...  oh, yeah: CONCRETE  ;D

seriously, consider what you were wearing
Spidey couldn't hang on to some of the slick/quick-dry/fine-thread synthetics, when wet
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: Tuffecs on September 17, 2021, 01:37:24 PM
My other rods do fine.  I guess I may have to look for a rubber end with the right diameter.  On the other hand, with all the praise with cork, I thought maybe I should do it with that.  Or maybe there's an alternative quick fix.
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: oldmanjoe on September 17, 2021, 01:38:09 PM
 ::)        I am thinking crutch bottom cap or a tennis ball with a hole in it , use when necessary.  
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: Brewcrafter on September 17, 2021, 03:10:10 PM
Any rod building supply will have hoards of options for a slip on/over butt cap that might fit your needs.  Pro - It not permanent, if it turns out not to be to your liking you can pop it off, and try something else.  Con - If you do not have a rod building supply close by, you will have to resort to online, and while there are many great and reputable suppliers sometimes it's easier when you can actually see/feel/touch/test fit.
For a real "quick and dirty" most hardware stores, etc have that liquid rubber that you can dip tools in to create non-slip handles.  Maybe dip the butt cap in that stuff?  Disclaimer - I have never used the stuff, so not sure how it would react with coating a plastic or how durable it is, just throwing out an idea.  If it was me I would go with option 1... - john
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: foakes on September 17, 2021, 04:07:29 PM
Call the company — describe the problem.

Either the supplier or Amazon will send you another rod with an intact Butt cap — at no charge.

And...they will not likely want the old one back — because it isn't worth the expense of shipping, packaging, etc.

Then you will have one good one — and one you can experiment with to make it intact.

If the firm won't help you — Amazon will.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on September 17, 2021, 05:15:41 PM
Suspect it was an intentional design choice by the company. Bad, but intentional. There are several ways to replace a butt cap with a proper rod but cap but I dont know what your resources are. You could also consider those grippy end caps for walking canes. I suspect one of those would likely be near the ideal inner AND outer diameter.

Or order a cork butt cap with an outer diameter small enough for a rod holder, remove your existing cap get the diameter of the blank and use a paddle bit of that diameter with some kind of cylinder around the middle (the pointy part) that matches the diameter of the butt caps existing pre drilled center hole. I tend to sacrifice a pen for the task, but hole diameters vary just find something that works. That acts as a guide to keep you centered. Spin the drill fast, move your hand slow. Let the drill do the cutting.
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: steelfish on September 17, 2021, 06:40:09 PM
there are several brands of this butt rod cushions for the exact same reason you describe among others.
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: Tuffecs on September 17, 2021, 06:47:00 PM
Yeah, butt was designed that way.

Rod butt outer dia is 1 1/16 = 1.0625 inch = 27 mm.

Will find a rubber cap to fit over the butt.  Saw a couple caps at Mudhole, and the ODs can fit into my sand spike.  Should cap ID be 1 1/16"?  Or a bit under, like 1"?  Or a bit over, like 1 1/8 "?

I'm thinking the same size.  Or does it really matter?
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: steelfish on September 17, 2021, 06:52:22 PM
those arent normal buttcaps, are big bulky cushions to be used instead of a fighting belt

Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: Tuffecs on September 17, 2021, 07:45:44 PM
Yeah, I got one of those.  Use it on deep-drop party boat trips and fishing down to 900' off coast of Virginia Beach.  Very comfy, especially when pulling up good size tilefish.  Can't wait to get out there again.
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: Sharkb8 on September 17, 2021, 08:40:28 PM
For a quick fix you can use a rubber but cap like is used to cover up the gimbals on gamerods ,or replace it with a new one.

Kim
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: Wompus Cat on September 17, 2021, 08:45:16 PM
 If you are Referring to the Butt End Cap or the Sleeve itself  a Couple of drops of Super Glue /Problem Solved  :o
If you are Referring that the Handle gets too slippery to hold then go to Tractor Supply and get a sheet of Stick on Sand Paper Coated Step Plate paper and cut it to fit round the rod then it won't be slippery and you can sharpen your hooks on it .
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: Swami805 on September 17, 2021, 09:55:23 PM
That's a plug on it now so you have to cut some of the handle material off the base of the blank to get a butt cap on that is slim for a sand spike.   I'd try roughing it up with coarse sand paper anc see if that helps
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: Riy2018 on September 21, 2021, 03:20:14 PM
Quote from: Tuffecs on September 17, 2021, 12:52:03 PM
Received this new Berrypro surf casting rod from Amazon recently.  Am impressed with quality and price.  Casts well, but there's a slight issue.  When the butt rests on my thigh area while I'm reeling, the butt end tends to slip off.  The end is not grippy.  Material is made of plastic of sorts.  Should be an easy fix.



Can you provide more information on BerryPro? what is the rod size, split? can you cast plugs or weight
thank you
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: Tuffecs on September 25, 2021, 01:03:34 AM
Think you already saw this on my Berrypro, Riy.
https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=33887.15

Used it only on one fishing trip thus far.  Threw weight/bait.
Berrypro conv surf casting rod, SPC 1102, 11', 2-piece.  Here's link for more details.

https://www.amazon.com/BERRYPRO-Spinning-Casting-Fishing-10-Spinning/dp/B08ZK8C9G9/ref=pd_sbs_6/133-8941622-9254643?pd_rd_w=p1mME&pf_rd_p=80c0d3b7-327a-454b-88c8-6e53987776ab&pf_rd_r=Y02K475V0ZY4AF60R8P0&pd_rd_r=2baabf50-bb99-463b-8606-057d1780a27b&pd_rd_wg=r0tES&pd_rd_i=B08ZKCQ794&psc=1
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: Tuffecs on September 30, 2021, 07:02:12 PM
Ok, received a new cap from Mudhole.

Fits snugly, but there's a gap between the tapered handle and cap opening.  I guess the best thing is to just fill it with glue/sealant. 
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: oc1 on September 30, 2021, 07:14:24 PM
.... or use black electrical tape to fill the gap so it doesn't mess up the foam
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: Tuffecs on September 30, 2021, 07:40:56 PM
Good idea; will do.

BTW, I noticed the guides on my this new Berrypro rod tilts forward (towards the rod tip).  The center leg is slightly bent to show this guide tilt.  This tilt appears to be on many rods nowadays.  Why?  For better casting? (Shows I've not been up on rod development)
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on September 30, 2021, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: Tuffecs on September 30, 2021, 07:40:56 PM
Good idea; will do.

BTW, I noticed the guides are this new Berrypro rod tilts forward (towards the rod tip).  The center leg is slightly bent to show this guide tilt.  This tilt appears to be on many rods nowadays.  Why?  For better casting? (Shows I've not been up on rod development)
Trying to copy fuji K series.
Title: Re: Surf Rod Butt End - It Slips
Post by: oc1 on October 01, 2021, 05:29:12 AM
.... and trying to avoid tip wrap.  Those of use fishing in the wind with long twitchy rods are plagued by tip wrap.  Canting the ring forward helps, but is not the whole solution.