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General Maintenance Tips => Tools and Lubricants => Topic started by: johnachak on July 17, 2014, 07:55:55 PM

Title: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: johnachak on July 17, 2014, 07:55:55 PM
I was on MysticParts site and was looking at the Battle 2 spinning reels. There is a video from Penn at the bottom of the reel page. The Penn representative clearly says that Penn uses Penn Blue Grease on the HT 100 washers in their spinners. I haven't been able to find out what they use on their conventional reels. He also stated that all Penn HT100 drags are greased now. I wonder what they use on the conventional reels.



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Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: johnachak on July 17, 2014, 08:34:27 PM
I just searched the Penn reels site and they still show the Battle. They haven't updated to Battle II yet. They mention HT100 but nothing else. Curious. The guy in the video I previously mentioned was discussing the Battle II. He outlined the "Improvements" over the original Battle. Greased HT100 was one of them.
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: handi2 on July 17, 2014, 09:44:49 PM
Penn uses that grease in all of their reels. They have found that it has the best performance for the HT-100 drags. According to Penn themselves. It works great in the spinning reels and I use it on the drags also.
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: handi2 on July 17, 2014, 09:47:09 PM
The drag washers in the new Battle are now keyed like the Conflict reels. It's a much better system.
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: alantani on July 18, 2014, 12:45:03 AM
i sure hope this works out for them.  maybe they have a pure teflon grease that is colored blue!   :-\
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: Tightlines667 on July 18, 2014, 01:05:28 AM
Personally I have been very careful to keep the petroleum-based Penn Blue grease off of the HT-100 or DuraDrag material.  I have seen degradation on drag washers exposed to standard greases.
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: johnachak on July 18, 2014, 01:24:51 AM
Quote from: alantani on July 18, 2014, 12:45:03 AM
i sure hope this works out for them.  maybe they have a pur teflon grease that is colored blue!   :-\

Nope, the gentleman said they use regular Penn Blue grease and they use it on all their HT 100 drags in their spinning reels. He was sure to specify "Spinning reels"
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: johnachak on July 18, 2014, 02:03:52 AM
Quote from: handi2 on July 17, 2014, 09:44:49 PM
Penn uses that grease in all of their reels. They have found that it has the best performance for the HT-100 drags. According to Penn themselves. It works great in the spinning reels and I use it on the drags also.

Oh, use Penn blue grease also. This is the first time I heard of Penn greasing drags from the factory. I also never heard of a non-Teflon grease used on drags period. I use Penn inside the reel and Cals on the drag washers.
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 18, 2014, 05:19:21 AM
I think I would stick to that method John. I keep Penn Blue on hand like I do my beer, but I don't use it on drags. ;)
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: johnachak on July 19, 2014, 12:06:41 AM
I was thinking of trying it in my beer, but I thought better of it... (Only kidding).
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: Alto Mare on July 19, 2014, 12:22:04 AM
Quote from: johnachak on July 19, 2014, 12:06:41 AM
I was thinking of trying it in my beer, but I thought better of it...


;D ;D
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: johndtuttle on July 27, 2014, 05:08:46 PM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on July 18, 2014, 01:05:28 AM
Personally I have been very careful to keep the petroleum-based Penn Blue grease off of the HT-100 or DuraDrag material.  I have seen degradation on drag washers exposed to standard greases.

I really don't know how this is going to work out of Penn either and know nothing more than anyone else on this topic but one observation is that Penn feels their grease works fine on their HT-100 material. We know this is carbon fiber but know nothing of how it is put together etc to keep it all together... Hopefully they have done their homework on this one and it works over time.

generally, the spinning reels in question don't experience long runs that generate serious heat so conceivably anything would work as long as the grease did not attack the washer material.

dunno  ???
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: handi2 on July 27, 2014, 11:28:24 PM
Just to clarify I use it on the small spinning reels only..! All of Penn's spinning reels I service have their blue grease on the drags. From the Torque and down...
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: johnachak on July 31, 2014, 01:26:02 PM
I wonder when they started this practice. The newest spinners I have done are my Slammers and they were all dry HT100 drags. The spinners I service for others are almost entirely the Z series mostly 704's, 710's and &712's.
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: johndtuttle on July 31, 2014, 02:46:22 PM
Quote from: johnachak on July 31, 2014, 01:26:02 PM
I wonder when they started this practice. The newest spinners I have done are my Slammers and they were all dry HT100 drags. The spinners I service for others are almost entirely the Z series mostly 704's, 710's and &712's.

This is very recent.
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: johnachak on July 31, 2014, 07:39:19 PM
I'll be finding out soon how It works. I am servicing my nephew's Penn Fierce. I got the HT100 drag upgrade kit. I'll try the Penn blue on those washers. We'll see what he thinks.
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: handi2 on July 31, 2014, 11:12:09 PM
I had a brand new Penn Conflict come in for a pre use corrosion package I do to all reels and sure enough just like all the other new Penn reels it was greased everywhere with the light blue grease. The drags, clicker and spring under the spool, handle shaft joint, on top and around the AR assembly, under the reels bottom cover, and everywhere else was greased. Good Job Penn..!!
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: johndtuttle on August 01, 2014, 01:29:45 AM
Quote from: handi2 on July 31, 2014, 11:12:09 PM
I had a brand new Penn Conflict come in for a pre use corrosion package I do to all reels and sure enough just like all the other new Penn reels it was greased everywhere with the light blue grease. The drags, clicker and spring under the spool, handle shaft joint, on top and around the AR assembly, under the reels bottom cover, and everywhere else was greased. Good Job Penn..!!

I think we can thank Alan Tani for that, tbh. He influenced Okuma to start really pre-servicing their reels and that positive buzz has others following. :)
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: johnachak on August 01, 2014, 03:05:06 AM
Alan has to have had a positive effect. Many new reels including Penns I saw the last few years had barely a brushstroke of grease. As I posted in another thread I had on a 920, I saw only a tiny spot of grease inside the entire reel. Years ago I heard that you need to open up and grease a new reel. I thought they were nuts until I opened up a new reel I bought and I was shocked at how little lube was in there.
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: alantani on August 01, 2014, 03:48:43 PM
nothing would change until consumers started demanding change.  it's been slow, but we are winning!  ;D
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: Newell Nut on August 01, 2014, 08:44:50 PM
Not sure what is inside my Torque 7 spinner. Fishes good so I have not opened it.
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: Alto Mare on August 01, 2014, 08:48:41 PM
When did you get the torque?
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: Newell Nut on August 01, 2014, 08:58:03 PM
I ordered it just before I got the 950 from you. It was on order for about 3 months. If I had gotten the 950 sooner I never would have ordered it but the 950 has a nice home on a one piece 11' Lamiglas surf rod. I need to build a rod for the 850 and keep a wire rig on it for tossing bait to king macs and keep the torque rigged for mangos.
Title: Re: Penn Spinning Reels with HT100 use Penn Blue Grease on the washers.
Post by: handi2 on August 01, 2014, 10:57:52 PM
I have a Torque 7 and yes it was well greased inside.