Line capacity not a big issue. I'm wanting compact & light. What is your fav. reel for 60 lb. line.
2 top runners for me right now that I'm looking at to purchase are Penn US 113 & Andros 12 if I can ever get my hands on one. 2 different reels I know. If it weren't for durability issue regarding the lever drag that is what I would go with & not look back. I do wonder how much of this issue is from how most choose to use their lever drags.
Never would of thought 60 lb. line & having a favored reel for it would be a rarity.
If you could be more specific you might get some responses.
A "60lb." reel could be used for bait, trolling, bottom fishing, jigging, heavy spinning (popping) etc. etc. Different techniques and methods call for different types of reels.
Don't be afraid of lever drags for durability. I have 25+ year old Internationals that are as good as the day they were built.
Hi Jeff --
In trying to put myself on your River, and casting big baits over those log beds -- I would have to consider very strongly a Newell 631.
No upgrades necessary, except for a 5 stack set of Cal's greased CFs with a greased CF or Delrin under gear washer. Maybe a better handle -- but this one will work well.
Lightweight at 24 - 27 ounces
All stainless steel components -- no upgrades needed
Narrow spool for a 60 pound rig -- 310 yards of 60, 250 yards of 80, or 200 yards of 100
4.2:1 gears
Larger crank handle for more torque
38" per crank
There are 2 gear ratios in the 600 series Newells -- 3:1 and 4.2:1.
In the 4.2:1 600 Series -- the 631-4.2 has the narrowest spool for better angler control of rod and reel.
Personally, if it were me going after a record on your River -- with your knowledge of the river and places that may hold a monster -- I would spool this with 100 lb mono -- put the biggest bait out there -- and expect action.
Because of the strength and lightweight-ness of this reel it would not be top heavy.
Yes, you could put any one of a number of heavy winches on your rod and catch these large fish.
However, if you want to be able to fight the fish and not the weight of a top heavy reel also -- this will allow you to do just that -- without the reel weight. Lower center of gravity. No other distractions -- just you and the fish.
One could also go with the 500 series, like a 533-4.6 -- and spool with 60 or 80.
Like you say, these monsters are brought up out of the logs by technique and experience -- along with properly prepared equipment. You must be on top of your game, obviously.
Roger Penske, possibly the winningest race car team owner of all time says --
My definition of Luck is -- "Preparation Meeting Opportunity".
Good "Luck" in your quest,
Fred
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I realy like that quote. The preparation makes the opportunities count.
Quote from: foakes on May 23, 2015, 02:18:54 PM
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Personally, if it were me going after a record on your River -- with your knowledge of the river and places that may hold a monster -- I would spool this with 100 lb mono -- put the biggest bait out there -- and expect action.
Fred
Fred, 60 lb. reels would not be used around heavy structure much. Being that I don't fish this type of structure every time that I'm out. My thoughts are this....if I cant get the drag on these 25N's to start acting right putting out an honest smooth 20 lb. drag I will look at 3 different reels to replace them. A 60 lb. class reel for me is an every day reel for the river. A reel that handles 60 lb. well will bring any thing that swims the river to boat or bank I would say 80% of the time I'm using it.....As stated prior by conchydong I should have clarified.
You make another valid point regarding regarding a 100lb. reel. I don't have a legit reel in this class. I'm still looking. Some have suggested the Omoto Triple along with rehabbing antique, delapidated Penns. However after discussing these fish with several marine biologist sending pictures not of just the fish but also their innards to the Biologist not extremely familiar with them, the consensus was that this fish could very well have the capacity to move 2 - 3 times it's weight for short burst of time. With this info along with fishing in & against the structure that I do I'm thinking a reel that produces anything less than 40 lbs. of usable, fishable drag would not be one to be counted on. Weight on a reel of this caliber is unimportant to me based on how it will be used
wow.. that sounds like a serious river monsters
what kind of fish you are going after?
Flathead & Blue cats.....So you know as I've stated before it does not take 100 lb. + line to land them. Imlooking at 60 lb. line class reels for every day a 100 lb. or heavier class reel would be used only when fishing log jams & heavy structure. In open water & no current, from a boat these fish can be whooped with much lighter gear.
OK, so now I know what you are fishing for and I will defer as I know absolutely nothing about fishing giant freshwater cats unless a Grouper rig would be similar. Good luck with your choice, I am sure you will get some good input here.
I have seem in some lakes in SD area that some guys use the 320gt and 330gti (USA models) to catch those big cats, but seems thare a tons of new reel models that offer high drag power its more what you like and how much do you want to spend.
okuma offerings are good.
penn fathom 40 its really light and hold really lot like ( I have one with 400yd of 80#)
penn torque
okuma catalina
etc
and of course the good old 113h with some tricks here and there is unstoppable.
What metropolitan area are you in or close to? Let's have a look-see as to what's available on Craigslist there.
Porthos, Im in Kansas I try an keep an eye on craiglist. But there really isn't much round here regarding reels capable of making 20 lbs. of drag & be fishable with that drag load. Oh you run into the occasional big senator but not much else.
I think I'm going to live & make do fishing my Fathom 25's with 60 until I replace them with Andros 12's. Unless some one can say with out any reservation the Fathom lever drag 30 or 40 are capable of a glass smooth drag at higher settings.
I'd go with an Andros 12 or even 5 - even the small reel will hold over 300m of 60lb braid (when spooled correctly under 10lb tension). Both provide adequate drag at over 30 and 20 respectivley. I have tried to demonstrate to other fisherman that they probably can't handle massive drag. Personally I usually use 15lb drag and occasionally 20-25 - stand-up fighting with anything more is beyond me :-[
Quote from: Rivverrat on May 25, 2015, 12:17:58 AM
Porthos, Im in Kansas I try an keep an eye on craiglist. But there really isn't much round here regarding reels capable of making 20 lbs. of drag & be fishable with that drag load. Oh you run into the occasional big senator but not much else.
I think I'm going to live & make do fishing my Fathom 25's with 60 until I replace them with Andros 12's. Unless some one can say with out any reservation the Fathom lever drag 30 or 40 are capable of a glass smooth drag at higher settings.
You are not going to be happy with the Andros for this application.
No thrust bearing means you will destroy pinion bearings right and left at max drag settings. Also, the frame is too light for fishing heavy drag continuously. You will land some fish with them, just like you have with the fathoms, and then it will start getting beat up quick. It is a light, light tackle reel.
Where I would start, is with an Okuma Makaira 8 or 10.
I thought the new Andros had a thrust bearing. I verified it does not
Quote from: Rivverrat on May 25, 2015, 12:17:58 AM...Im in Kansas I try an keep an eye on craiglist. But there really isn't much round here regarding reels capable of making 20 lbs. of drag & be fishable with that drag load. Oh you run into the occasional big senator but not much else...
Kansas...ouch. Looks like a better shot at something on eBay.
A Tiburon T4 alone is $75. All the other upgrades will put a 113H well over $100.
As of 5/25/2015, here is another consideration: Daiwa 400H. Some current eBay options:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAIWA-SeaLine-400H-Saltwater-Conventional-Fishing-Reel-w-Rod-Mount-Right-Handed-/371334619844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item567544a2c4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAIWA-SEALINE-400H-SALT-WATER-DEEP-SEA-FISH-REEL-/351409771334?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51d1a79346
Pair one up with one of Bryan's 400H kits:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12108.0
You'll get the 20lbs drag for the 1/3 rule with 60lb test with a few pounds of drag left over if you need to bump it up. Looks like
UtahTuna got it up to 27lbs, though I hesitate, as
UtahTuna does, about fishing it that high.
The next step up would be the 6/0-sized Daiwa 600H.
With Bryan Young's 600H kit,
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12058.0
...I've gotten as high as 42lbs from top of spool, but 30lbs is more reasonable for sustained reliable drag.
Both the 400H and 600H are already aluminum one-piece framed AND aluminum side plates from the factory, but NEITHER are exactly small or light...
If out-of-the-box is more of what you're looking for, then
johndtuddle's recommendation of the Makairas is hard to beat...but you have to face up to the price tag.
Porthos, thanks for your help & reply. That Diawa looks like a beast. But you know at this point I am tired of the frustration of this journey. Not to find the perfect reel but an every day reel for my use. That is the right size & is capable long term for how I will use it. For years thee has been nothing that would work for how I wanted to use it accept the gargantuan to me 30's through 80 size reels, then Accurate came into the picture. Years ago I contemplated buying I think 3 30 or 50 size Internationals & sending them to Cal Sheets. I will at some point be buying a reel or 2 in this category. But for right now I want the search for 3 appropriate everyday reels for my use to stop. I'm going to face the music, bite the bullet & purchase 3 Mak 8's or 10's. I thought about this prior to making my purchase on my 3 Fathom's. It wasn't a bad decision. A possible 1/2 step in the right direction. They will work just fine for now giving me time to get the money needed together.