I thought some of you Everol guys might get a kick out of this three part Everol yesterday and today article on the ANTIPES site (http://www.antipes.it/marca_everol_it.html) by ANTIPES President Renzo Di Paolo. ANTIPES is a group of Italian collectors researching and documenting Italian reel, and various other makers such as ABU, and their history. The Everol article a very interesting read and ANTIPES (http://www.antipes.it/index.html) is a great site to visit. There is a lot of reel, especially spinning reel, information and history there.
You'll need to use your translator. If you use Chrome it will be in the address bar in the top right hand corner. Not sure where it's located on other browsers.
Thanks Tommy,
I'm sure this will be a must read for Daron(Shark Hunter) and many more!! It was for me, and I don't even own any 😀
Brett
Thanks for posting that link, very interesting read !
I would Love to meet Gianni.
I have dealt with Paolo on a personal level and the pleasure was all mine.
Old School craftsmanship that has stood the test of time.
Thanks for posting this Tommy.
I now know what the two girls mean. I often wondered.
Also interesting that Penn Internationals copied the drag system when the patent expired.
QuoteAlso interesting that Penn Internationals copied the drag system when the patent expired.
As with most historical events, wouldn't it be nice to know the fate of both companies if Everol hadn't forgotten about their drag patent expiration? :o Interesting how things evolve. ;)
Quote from: Midway Tommy on October 20, 2017, 04:54:05 PM
QuoteAlso interesting that Penn Internationals copied the drag system when the patent expired.
As with most historical events, wouldn't it be nice to know the fate of both companies if Everol hadn't forgotten about their drag patent expiration? :o Interesting how things evolve. ;)
I don't believe the International reels copied that drag design.. maybe the torque or versa drag system?
Interesting article.
This company has a rich history. I would have liked to heasr more of the early days, and the connection between their competitor Duel, and the Gladiator line.
I wonder if Everol will update the design on their smaller 'waterproof', 2-speed series to shed some weight, and compete with many of the other brands in this catagory?
John
John
I think they copied it in part John.
To the Best of my knowledge, No other reels have this lever drag and disk design.
I'm probably wrong, but just my two cents. ;)
I now have a 4/0, 9/0, 9/0 wide, 12/0, 14/0, 18/0 and 20/0 Everol's.
I'm not done yet, I want a 12/0 Cairns model in good shape.
Newest addition 9/0. I'm guessing 80's production without the full machined frame.
Not a Scratch on it. ;)
I do not think Penn International copied the Everol lever drag design. The Everol has its drag in the head plate, the International drag is in the tail plate. I actually feel the International is a more balanced design. I have only owned one Everol, a 14/0 Cairns. I sold it a few years ago. It was absolutely mint, so I never opened it but I do have some paperwork that I kept. I am a paper junkie. Anyways, here is a cutaway of a mid 1980 Everol 14/0. This does not look any thing like a Penn.
I also do not know when the Everol patent expired; but the original Penn International designs go back to the early 1960's, maybe even the late 1950's.
The second photo is of the first working Penn International prototype. I do not see Everol in that design.
There is another very interesting reel with a lever drag patented by Fred Grieten. He worked in the Fin-Nor company in the 1930's. What I have read about him was he was a excellent machinist and a horrible business man. He was involved in big game reel design with Fin-Nor. They ran into patent infringement problem in the 1930's with Kovalovsky. Fred Grieten was directly involved with the process of bringing the drag system inside the reel, which cleared Fin-Nor of the patent problems. Then came the war and Fred got out of the business only to return a few years after the war. He patented a lever drag big game reel and actually sold some. I would think they are very hard to find today but they do enter the world of """Similar Lever Drag""" to Everol and Penn Internationals.
It is really hard to know who copied from who ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Wow Mike!
Both of those reels are pretty darn cool.
Is that International prototype a 50 class reel?
I assummed there must be an International prototype somewhere, and have wondered what it might look like. I assume Tue internal drag and cam mechanisms are pretty similar to the first gen? Do you have any shots of the internals?
Thanks for sharing!
John
Gentlemen, sorry for delay in response to this thread. I was away on a trip, not altogether too far away from Everol I suppose, without internet connection.
Listen, save your efforts on the drag patent thing. There is certainly no truth to it; it is an old boast that has been flying around since idunnowhen and can be immediately dismissed as erroneous at best. Trust me.
It is true though, that Everol predates the International and may have in some way contributed to inspire Penn to build a lever drag reel, but that is where it ends.
This was a nice article and all, but on sort of the light reading level. Some nice pictures though, and cool reels. I too have one of the first Everols ever made, a 7 1/2 /O with dual gears and dual levers.
(http://alantani.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18179.0;attach=21403;image)
Really, the more interesting things here are Mikes amazing prototype International and Reel-King pictures! And that Grieten patent happens to be a personal favorite, since it quite obviously shows a twin drag reel, which gives Accurate fanatics something to think about.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on October 20, 2017, 03:08:21 PM
I would Love to meet Gianni. Nice guy; I am sure you would like him. Speaks very little or no English though.
I now know what the two girls mean. I often wondered. Yes, it is an interesting little anecdote. Thought I had mentioned it before, but I guess not.
Also interesting that Penn Internationals copied the drag system when the patent expired. In a word, no.
Daron, those reels with the post frames were continued into the 2000s. I have a prototype one-piece frame here, it says I made it in 2003 I think. Better clues are the chunky-style gear housing and type of handle knob.
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Cool reel Doc, if you have one in your possession, they must be very rare ;D
Sal
QuoteIs that International prototype a 50 class reel?
I assummed there must be an International prototype somewhere, and have wondered what it might look like. I assume Tue internal drag and cam mechanisms are pretty similar to the first gen? Do you have any shots of the internals?
Hello John,
I believe the prototype International is a size 30. Great story goes with the reel, it was fished by the CEO of the day and with it he caught the first billfish on any International, a large Atlantic Sailfish. That billfish was mounted and hung on the wall in the Penn CEO office until 2005. Don't ask me where the billfish and International prototype are today; but, I will say they are in good hands and not with Pure Fishing.
QuoteReally, the more interesting things here are Mikes amazing prototype International and Reel-King pictures! And that Grieten patent happens to be a personal favorite, since it quite obviously shows a twin drag reel, which gives Accurate fanatics something to think about.
Hello Robert,
Thank you for the Kudos and the more positive reasoning about the evolution of the International. I never considered the twin drag aspect of the Grieten idea in conjunction with Accurate. Interesting association ::) ::)
Hi John Taylor here
This is a follow up on Mikes "Reel King post". From reading they came in three sizes a "20-30" a "50" and an "80" size. I bought a 20-30 size off Ebay a couple years ago for a $100 buy now and was very happy about it !! I knew nothing about them and while looking for info found out Brian "Oceanreels" had an 80 size. He told me of a page in the Fin-Nor Book by Bruce Matthews and Ed Pritchard that gave a brief history of the Reel King reels ! On page 32 in that book it tells how Grieten applied for several pattens in early to mid 60s for drag mechanisms that were for the Reel King reels. The reels were only made from the late 1970 to late 1972 when the owner of SOMACO "Southern Machine Company" died and production stopped. I was lucky enough to buy Brian's 80 reel King so now I need the 50 to complete the set.
I had John Elder do a clean and lube job on the 80 and John said that the drag wasn't like any he had seen before. Here is his ORCA tutorial.
http://reeltalk.orcaonline.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=19133&p=86284&hilit=Reel+King+80+reel#p86284
Below I have included a few pics of the two Reel King's !!! Hope you enjoy. John Taylor
Thanks Doc,
The serial number on this reel is 11883.
Not sure if it was made Nov. 1988 or 1983.
The Catalog that came with it has no 18/0 yet.
It also shows a Best Series with wood handles. But the side plates don't show "The Best" as I've seen before.
Daron
Quote from: 54bullseye on October 22, 2017, 02:32:00 PM
Hi John Taylor here
This is a follow up on Mikes "Reel King post". From reading they came in three sizes a "20-30" a "50" and an "80" size. I bought a 20-30 size off Ebay a couple years ago for a $100 buy now and was very happy about it !! I knew nothing about them and while looking for info found out Brian "Oceanreels" had an 80 size. He told me of a page in the Fin-Nor Book by Bruce Matthews and Ed Pritchard that gave a brief history of the Reel King reels ! On page 32 in that book it tells how Grieten applied for several pattens in early to mid 60s for drag mechanisms that were for the Reel King reels. The reels were only made from the late 1970 to late 1972 when the owner of SOMACO "Southern Machine Company" died and production stopped. I was lucky enough to buy Brian's 80 reel King so now I need the 50 to complete the set.
I had John Elder do a clean and lube job on the 80 and John said that the drag wasn't like any he had seen before. Here is his ORCA tutorial.
http://reeltalk.orcaonline.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=19133&p=86284&hilit=Reel+King+80+reel#p86284
Below I have included a few pics of the two Reel King's !!! Hope you enjoy. John Taylor
John,
Super cool reels!
I can't believe I missed thst ORCA post, but come yo think of it so did read the reel news article in the original mag, and in the best of book.
Will have to keep an eye open for these.
John P
Quote from: Shark Hunter on October 22, 2017, 04:12:11 PM
Thanks Doc,
The serial number on this reel is 11883.
Not sure if it was made Nov. 1988 or 1983.
The Catalog that came with it has no 18/0 yet.
It also shows a Best Series with wood handles. But the side plates don't show "The Best" as I've seen before.
Daron
Oh, okay... I don't think there is anything to be learned from the serial numbers. They are sequential, that is all-- if I remember correctly. I recall thinking about it and maybe even asking, but it was a very long time ago. Ask Paolo about it.
Those catalogs are kind of interesting too, in that they aren't neccessarily current or updated to model years. I think The Best series was from the 80s. I have only had one in my shop, ever.
If I had to guess with your reel, I would say more like, mid-late 90s, again based on the chunky gear cover. Maybe I am wrong, idunno. 80s reels still had the angel-shape gear cover, later introduced (at my urging, I like to say) in an updated version in the mid-2000s-ish. You mentioned a box... Black box, cardboard? And again the handle knob... black molded plastic kind that came before the more bullet-shaped machined delrin one that came later.... Ask Paolo about that, if he remembers when they changed that. And then keep in mind that the answer would be based on someone's memory, not stamped and dated official documentation.
PS: I like your little 4/0 with the red box. Nice.
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Daron and Robert I didn't mean to JACK your post with the Reel Kings I just saw Mikes post and thought I would add to the Reel King history.
Sorry about that !!! Maybe some one can move it ? I don't know how. I love the old Everol's to but only have one. John Taylor
What?! No-- those Reel Kings are amazing! Thank you!
No Problem John. Those Reel Kings are Cool. 8)
Doc,
Paolo says 1983 Production.
Assuming the Catalog is correct. The 18/0 came out around 1984, so that would be the right time line.
This reel was a display in Naples Florida. It came with the original black box.
This is all Theory, but I'm running with it. ;)
mmmyeah... but no.
So, I got to seriously thinking about it and had a look at stuff. I have here a 7 1/2 /0 sent to me by Paolo, directly from production in 2002 or 2003. It has serial number 13284. I also have a 6/0 from 2002, serial number 12564. Both had post frames and triangular chunky-style gear covers. I also have a few 12-20 side rings from the same period with 12343, and a WP30, serial number 13555. Also a 4/0 from circa 2008, serial number 20576 and modern angel-shape gear cover.
I also have an email from Paolo in 2005, in which he specifies the years of production for the triangular chunky-style gear cover as 1988-2005.
The 18/0 was not released until 2004.
The catalogs are nice enough, but they are not a wholly reliable timeline. Hence the appearance of for example The Best series, angel-shaped gear covers, the mention the ferrozell bushing which hasn't been used for many years etc.
I don't know when he started using the black boxes.
.
I'm just going by the email Paolo sent me this morning.
I didn't know when the 18/0 came out, but on their website,
When the 20/0 came out in 2014, They said the 18/0 had held the record as biggest reel for nearly three decades.
http://teameverol.com/new-models-rd/
It doesn't really matter. I am only going by the information I can find.
I'm sure you are probably right, since you have walked the walk. I'm just talking the talk. ;)
Its all Good.
Today at 7:30 AM
ToDaron Dyer
Message body
Hello Daron,
exactly, the reels was made in 1983.
Regards
Paolo
Il 21/10/2017 00:00, Daron Dyer ha scritto:
Paolo,
Its been a while my Friend. I purchased this 9/0 this week and it has posts instead of the full frame.
The last two digits of the Serial number are 83.
Does that mean this reel was made in 1983?
Daron
Quote from: Robert Janssen on October 22, 2017, 12:25:06 PM
Gentlemen, sorry for delay in response to this thread. I was away on a trip, not altogether too far away from Everol I suppose, without internet connection.
Listen, save your efforts on the drag patent thing. There is certainly no truth to it; it is an old boast that has been flying around since idunnowhen and can be immediately dismissed as erroneous at best. Trust me.
It is true though, that Everol predates the International and may have in some way contributed to inspire Penn to build a lever drag reel, but that is where it ends.
This was a nice article and all, but on sort of the light reading level. Some nice pictures though, and cool reels. I too have one of the first Everols ever made, a 7 1/2 /O with dual gears and dual levers.
(http://alantani.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18179.0;attach=21403;image)
Really, the more interesting things here are Mikes amazing prototype International and Reel-King pictures! And that Grieten patent happens to be a personal favorite, since it quite obviously shows a twin drag reel, which gives Accurate fanatics something to think about.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on October 20, 2017, 03:08:21 PM
I would Love to meet Gianni. Nice guy; I am sure you would like him. Speaks very little or no English though.
I now know what the two girls mean. I often wondered. Yes, it is an interesting little anecdote. Thought I had mentioned it before, but I guess not.
Also interesting that Penn Internationals copied the drag system when the patent expired. In a word, no.
Daron, those reels with the post frames were continued into the 2000s. I have a prototype one-piece frame here, it says I made it in 2003 I think. Better clues are the chunky-style gear housing and type of handle knob.
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Robert
About what year was that 7 1/2 0 made ?? Also I assume the black lever is the drag preset but what is the second chromed lever for ? Is there a separate drag for each speed ? I just bought one off Ebay for cheap money but from another country. The handle is broke and one part of the star is broken off. I am hoping I can fix both problems. I don't quite see what that star does ? I looks like it would work as a quick adjustment for the handle position but it doesn't look like it has any flats to turn the nut ?? I am only going by pictures as I don't have reel in hand yet. Thanks ! John Taylor
Glad that reel went to a member.
I kind of shyed away with the broken parts and scratches, but that is a very rare reel.
You know I was shocked that it didn't go higher !! I put in another bid in the last few seconds always glad to save a few hundred dollars. You know I bid on and got this reel on Nov 7th and it was on my porch on Nov 10th from Italy !!!! Hope this one is as good !! John Taylor
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Reel-Mitchell-President-2-0-/322856634563?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=%252BxghoD8eu96ThPr1LOTqzwy6JZ8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Daron
Do you know what the extra lever is ? John Taylor
Brother, I do not.
All my Everol's have a single Lever.
Doc will be able to answer your question.
John Taylor, wow! That is a really nice reel. Fantastic. In great condition too. Great pictures. What a great deal; i would perhaps have bid on it myself had i seen it.
Yes, the star is used to adjust handle position. IIRC the star is threaded, and the domed cap nut is just to cap off the stud nicely. IIDRC, the nut is just pressed into the star. No big deal.
The second, small chromed lever is a freespool lever. It can be used at any time, regardless of what the other lever is set at.
Exact age is really hard to pin down, but I think, based on a long line of consideration of many aspects, that these reels are from the very late 1950s or very early 1960s, like 1958-1962. I also think that mine may be just a little older than yours, not sure.
The broken handle is not a big deal. Just weld it.
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Thought this article would fit in this post. It is from the November, 2017 issue of the Reel News (ORCA publication).
Mike
I read it last night a lot about company history but would like to learn more about the reels and there progression from 1958 and up. I think you should write a book and include a lot of pictures in it on "Everol from the beginning " I will sign up for first copy !! Lol ! It was still an interesting article. Thanks Mike John Taylor
Quote from: Robert Janssen on November 13, 2017, 08:52:58 AM
John Taylor, wow! That is a really nice reel. Fantastic. In great condition too. Great pictures. What a great deal; i would perhaps have bid on it myself had i seen it.
Yes, the star is used to adjust handle position. IIRC the star is threaded, and the domed cap nut is just to cap off the stud nicely. IIDRC, the nut is just pressed into the star. No big deal.
The second, small chromed lever is a freespool lever. It can be used at any time, regardless of what the other lever is set at.
Exact age is really hard to pin down, but I think, based on a long line of consideration of many aspects, that these reels are from the very late 1950s or very early 1960s, like 1958-1962. I also think that mine may be just a little older than yours, not sure.
The broken handle is not a big deal. Just weld it.
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Well Robert I am glad you didn't see it !! It is on the way now but the guy sent it "DHL" so no idea how long before I get it as I have never used DHL and it must pass through customs.
I have a friend who is very good welding aluminum so that is what I figured. I will shape the broken part of the star and have it welded also then either check on anodizing or maybe just a paint touch up.
I will post some pics of the repairs as they happen. Thanks for the info !! John Taylor
Quote from: Robert Janssen on November 13, 2017, 08:52:58 AM
John Taylor, wow! That is a really nice reel. Fantastic. In great condition too. Great pictures. What a great deal; i would perhaps have bid on it myself had i seen it.
Yes, the star is used to adjust handle position. IIRC the star is threaded, and the domed cap nut is just to cap off the stud nicely. IIDRC, the nut is just pressed into the star. No big deal.
The second, small chromed lever is a freespool lever. It can be used at any time, regardless of what the other lever is set at.
Exact age is really hard to pin down, but I think, based on a long line of consideration of many aspects, that these reels are from the very late 1950s or very early 1960s, like 1958-1962. I also think that mine may be just a little older than yours, not sure.
The broken handle is not a big deal. Just weld it.
.
Robert
I got the Everol today. Not bad 9 days from Venezuela shipped by DHL. The reel is in really nice shape and everything seems to work good other than the broken handle and star. I was surprised at how thick handle is !! I think I can take care of welding both pieces up. I see that the lever drag works backwards from the new models. The free spool lever works perfect as does the free spool itself. Both speeds work good looks like 1 to 1 and 3 to 1 ratios . The clicker works good but seems a bit loose like it might fall out of click mode fairly easy possibly could be tightened up if I or some one opens it up. Will post some pictures of repairs when finished but that won't be until my paving season is finished up in another couple weeks.
I see no serial numbers any where on the reel I assume same with yours ? Robert have you seen others like it ? Did they make bigger or smaller versions of this same reel ? I haven't found much searching around the internet ?
Thanks ! John Taylor
I did find this picture on Google looks to be same vintage reel. Same two speed same free spool lever. Shape of side plates a little different and bolt patterns different. I tried to blow it up to read reel size but it gets to blurry.
Quote from: 54bullseye on November 20, 2017, 10:52:40 PM
Quote from: Robert Janssen on November 13, 2017, 08:52:58 AM
John Taylor, wow! That is a really nice reel. Fantastic. In great condition too. Great pictures. What a great deal; i would perhaps have bid on it myself had i seen it.
Yes, the star is used to adjust handle position. IIRC the star is threaded, and the domed cap nut is just to cap off the stud nicely. IIDRC, the nut is just pressed into the star. No big deal.
The second, small chromed lever is a freespool lever. It can be used at any time, regardless of what the other lever is set at.
Exact age is really hard to pin down, but I think, based on a long line of consideration of many aspects, that these reels are from the very late 1950s or very early 1960s, like 1958-1962. I also think that mine may be just a little older than yours, not sure.
The broken handle is not a big deal. Just weld it.
.
Robert
I got the Everol today. Not bad 9 days from Venezuela shipped by DHL. The reel is in really nice shape and everything seems to work good other than the broken handle and star. I was surprised at how thick handle is !! I think I can take care of welding both pieces up. I see that the lever drag works backwards from the new models. The free spool lever works perfect as does the free spool itself. Both speeds work good looks like 1 to 1 and 3 to 1 ratios . The clicker works good but seems a bit loose like it might fall out of click mode fairly easy possibly could be tightened up if I or some one opens it up. Will post some pictures of repairs when finished but that won't be until my paving season is finished up in another couple weeks.
I see no serial numbers any where on the reel I assume same with yours ? Robert have you seen others like it ? Did they make bigger or smaller versions of this same reel ? I haven't found much searching around the internet ?
Thanks ! John Taylor
That freespool lever is an interesting concept. Does it have a separate cam ramp? Is it pretty much on/off or can one leave the drag lever at a desired setting, and move the freespool lever so it has light drag, such as when fishing large live baits?
Thanks for sharing this stuff. I look forward to internal photos.
John
John
I tried easing the free spool lever forward but it seems like it's in or out. Drag lever can be in any position and free spool works. John Taylor
Here are a few pictures of the Early Everol 7 1/2 /0 reel I got from Venezuela. Other than broken handle and star it is real nice. My buddy is going to weld both pieces then I will either paint or powder coat those parts. I will post more pics when finished. John Taylor
Nice reel John!
Any idea when it was produced?
Has your buddy seen the broken parts yet John? They look like cast pot metal.
-steve
Quote from: Tightlines666 on December 02, 2017, 06:49:58 PM
Nice reel John!
Any idea when it was produced?
Robert Janssen said he thinks they were made between 1958 and 1962. I can't seem to find much on them. Notice how drag lever works backwards from new reels. Also the little chrome lever is the free spool. I pulled tail plate off as clicker seemed loose so I was able to tighten it up nice. I noticed the spindle coming out of spool on head plate side is spring loaded so I assume that's what makes reel go into free spool when lever is flipped. The drag side scares me a little so John Elder is going to give it a go through with picture tutorial which either I or John will post when done. John Taylor
Quote from: oc1 on December 02, 2017, 06:59:32 PM
Has your buddy seen the broken parts yet John? They look like cast pot metal.
-steve
Steve it seems very light so I assumed aluminum and my buddy saw it but he had company and about a dozen beers when I brought it to him so time will tell !!!
LOL !!!!
Nice Reel JT.
Were there any Custom fees from Venezuela?
It is in a lot better shape than I expected.
No customs fees. It stopped at two places in Venezuela then to Panama then Miami next New York then Boston then finally to me. Seems Customs does delay things a bit but nine days ain't bad. I was very happy with condition when it came ! John Taylor
Just like from Italy.
People warn you of Custom Fees and Tariffs.
They don't exist.
Just another Plea to buy from a so called distributor in the US with 90% mark ups.
Congrats John. ;)
Quote from: 54bullseye on December 02, 2017, 03:09:55 PM
Here are a few pictures of the Early Everol 7 1/2 /0 reel I got from Venezuela. Other than broken handle and star it is real nice. My buddy is going to weld both pieces then I will either paint or powder coat those parts. I will post more pics when finished. John Taylor
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Well I said I would post a few pictures when handle and star were done there not quite done but all welded up and the worst of shaping and filing done. Not perfect but if I can match the some what Bronze colored paint they will look pretty good. I will post picture of finished product. John Taylor
Nice work on the weld repairs. If you can get the handle knob off the blade Powder Coating is the best. Otherwise Epoxy Paint would be good too. Great Save!
Quote from: Penn Chronology on January 23, 2018, 04:50:05 PM
Nice work on the weld repairs. If you can get the handle knob off the blade Powder Coating is the best. Otherwise Epoxy Paint would be good too. Great Save!
Knob ain't coming off !! I noticed some runs on the back side of handle so I think it was good paint originally . I looked around and all I could find was a brown / bronze paint that is close but not perfect it's a little dark. I put a primer coat on yesterday morning then one coat of paint last night and hung it over wood stove. I roughed it up a little this morning with 1200 grit sand paper and put on a second coat. She is drying over stove now so we will see ??? If not good enough it's gonna be black !! Will post pics when done. John Taylor
Okay I am done with the Everol handle ! Color and texture of the paint wasn't a perfect choice but will have to do. I would not hesitate to fish this reel as everything works perfect and drag is surprisingly smooth and strong I think it would handle a pretty big fish !!! Here are some pictures of the fix and paint job. Now I guess I gotta find out what type rods the fished these on over in Italy back in the day ??? John Taylor
Pics
couple more pics of push button rig to change gears with.
last pics
Nice repair, The black looks good on that reel. I was looking at the clamp, Do the upper screws loosen so you can rotate the reel? Never seen a clamp arrangment like that before.
Quote from: Swami805 on January 27, 2018, 03:58:41 PM
Nice repair, The black looks good on that reel. I was looking at the clamp, Do the upper screws loosen so you can rotate the reel? Never seen a clamp arrangment like that before.
It is actually a bronze / brown not black. I tried to match the old handle color the best WalMart could do !! Lol ! Not sure what upper screws your talking about ? And I have never seen a rod clamp like that either. Seems kinda complicated ?? John Taylor
I looks like a screw right above the reel foot that's threaded on both sides that goes thru the base of the reel. Just curious, seems like a lot of parts and thought went into making it like that, looks like it was made to pivet or something.
Well you got my curiosity up on the reel seat so here it is. Pics attached. I think all the two allan set screws do is allow an easy way to take reel off rod without having to take off rod clamp ? Not that taking rod clamp off is very hard but this is probably quicker. Take a look at pictures maybe some one has a better guess !! There is a little tail on one end of clamp that fits into back of base then you just tighten the set screws. It can't swivel so that's the best I can come up with? John Taylor
Last couple pics
That weld repair job looks great. Good metal and cleaned! Worth another dozen beers to the Torch Guy! ;)
Also the reel seat is quite interesting as the quick change method. They use this method on some cameras in the tripod, butt never seen anything like that before. Thanks for the great pictures.
Thanks for doing that, it does make sense if you're clamping the reel to the rod that does'nt have a reel seat. Pretty clever way to do it.
That turned out pretty darn good. That clamp is certainly an interesting design.
John
Well digging around on internet today and I came up with a couple cool Everol catalogs the first a 1958 with 7.5-0 reel similar to the one I posted on this thread. There are a few little differences that I noticed # 1 the top cross bar is Gold like the one on Robert Janssen's reel early in this thread. He said he thought his might be a bit earlier than mine as my top cross bar is Black so could be one reason. # 2 the little silver free spool lever is smaller on the one in catalog than mine and # 3 the star that is used to hold handle in desired position is a different shape not as sharp points as mine ! I will assume mine to be a bit newer than 1958. It also shows the odd real seat we talked about earlier in this thread and it looks like my guess on it's use was correct !!
The next catalog a 1960 version shows a 6/0 Everol selling under the SEARS ROEBUCK AND CO. name that has " Ted Williams" name on handle and drag scale. I thought that was pretty cool !!!
I Hope your able to blow up pictures as I am having trouble loading them ! I hope they come through for you.
Thanks for looking !! John Taylor