Hey there
I bought a few Newell's to play with last month, and this month I caught a few nice fish with them.
I think it's catching fish with them that makes it an enjoyable reel to use. Lite!!! Even for 5 or 6 hours.
And I'm looking to modify bases to fit my different rods.
Some are "square" most are round?
Anybody know the whole story, about, modified stands?
Thanks
Dan
What models do you have?
Dwight
Most Newell reel bases are interchangeable with like models. The aluminum base lowers the reel closer to the rod clamp. or jig rods without a clamp. By contrast the plastic reel bases raise the reel by quite a bit. In some cases the aluminum feet will not fit some rod clamps because of thickness, it's always a good idea to check this before installing it in a reel.
I have a 220, 229, 235, and a 338.
I filed down the reel seat on the 229 to fit a
Fuji reel seat, but I don't want to mess with the 235
At all, I want to find a square base for it.
By square, are you saying a Deckhand special base?
The Man
Some reels, you can change the reel seat with ones from Penn stamped. I know someone here has this information.
I don't know if it's called a "deck hand" base but I have a 220 with a squared area to receive the reel seat, unlike most bases that are round. The base has metal feet also. I'll try to put up pics.
These are the two types of reel seats I have, I have seen others.
The penn base I tried was causing the frame to warp and spool to rub.
Got it, just different generations of reel seats. Glad you are enjoying your reels.
The Man
Maybe better pic
Brian, Alan,
You guys must have come across this before.... I read in a forum that "Carl" made a few modified stands when some one brought it to his attention. As I said the 220 has a square base area and metal feet, to receive the Fuji reel seat. The other is round, and don't sit flat, even with a clamp it's at a bad angle. My 229 I filed the stand opening wider, and it fits a bit better but the plastic feet are too big to really go into the reel seat hood entirely. So I wait and search for a 235 square stand if there is such an animal! Or I go to jogging world and have them make me a black widow 300g with a different reel seat?
Penn does or have made reel seats that fit the Newell Reels you have 220 & 229. They are less than $15 each.
Mike
The "squaring" was machined so the reel would clamp down on a line winding machine,
I tried a penn reel seat, it was a tad tight and it warped the frame, making the spool rub a lot.
I got new washers and bearings from Whittier on Ebay, great guy, helped me get these reels in top shape.
I would like to put a 229 on a black hole 731M, and the 235 on a black widow 300c for the Hellen H , deep water fluke trips I am planning on taking. I may file down the 235, or find a similar rod to the black widow.
Thanks
Guys
So you're looking for the bases that have the metal tongue stamped in the base?
Quote from: DannyBoy on July 18, 2019, 11:26:04 PM
I tried a penn reel seat, it was a tad tight and it warped the frame, making the spool rub a lot.
I got new washers and bearings from Whittier on Ebay, great guy, helped me get these reels in top shape.
I would like to put a 229 on a black hole 731M, and the 235 on a black widow 300c for the Hellen H , deep water fluke trips I am planning on taking. I may file down the 235, or find a similar rod to the black widow.
Thanks
Guys
I've shimmed the frame/bars with washers when swapping parts, including using newell parts. It is what it is.
G 220 on the left and C 220 on the right. The P's have the metal tongue's on the reel's foot. Maybe other models newer than the C series have them too?
Oh and both are braid backed and both fit on different winding machines when they were spooled.
If the fatter reel foot is a problem and your looking at getting a new rod you may want to think about a deckhand style rod without a reel seat.
Correct, and a squared channel . As in my previous pic
So then look for the C series with the reel base your looking for, or maybe later models that came after the C's and see if they offer the same reel base.
Not real hard to check if the later models came that way but I bet you will have a hard time finding any reel feet that don't come with the rest of the reel. So I bet more money than you wanted to pay for just the foot.
Good luck as Newell parts are getting harder to find every day.
There was a seller on the bay a while back that was selling what they called NOS of Newell parts, mostly sideplates and frames in colors that Carl Newell never made, so not NOS. Since they made the frames and sideplates and such maybe they made reel feet also?
There was a post somewhere here on the AT site about them and their parts, not real positive but maybe they have what your looking for since it is just a reel foot or two?
Or you could jump down the rabbit hole and order tiburon frames for them all. One word of caution though, the frame for the 338 doesn't exactly fit all 338 without slight modification. You will have to ream out 2 or more screw holes on the inner rings or you chance stripping the threads on your inner screws (bolts). Line up the holes closest to the outer screws(crossbar holes) or you will run into additional clearance issues if you line up the base screws first. I don't think this was covered in the tutorials regarding this problem. This will get you close enough. I don't like the idea of omitting screws, but it's up to each individual to decide.
Lots of options you guys are offering, thank you.
Tiburon frames are my last resort, although an option for Newell's that need it, mine are not there yet.
I am having tackle world change a reel seat on a black widow 300 for me, to fit the Newell stands, and that rod will get a Newell 235 with 30lb mono for chunking bait for Stripers. And I'll use a 229 with 30lb braid on that rod for deep water fluking.
That's the plan, I do think I'll have a light setup that can bounce 8-12oz of lead if needed, for my mass. Hellen H trips.
Thanks
Dan