Hi:
I recently serviced and re-built an older 9/0. This is a reel with the felt at the top with the metal seal. It seems that as I tighten down the star on the gear sleeve it leaves too much room and thus never any pressure on the drag. I read the schematic for this and they stated that part 8A and 9 are not to be included as with the newer models.
I took this reel apart a while ago, switched out parts, bought some new, and now it's back together finally.
What are your thoughts? I have a 3rd pic with the star and some spare parts I have for 9/0 that I was thinking about using to solve this issue.
Thanks for any help.
I have the correct part you need to do it right and it will look much better. I dont have a picture to show you. I call it a "top hat" washer.
Just PM me your address and I will send you one.
This is what the top hat looks like that youre missing.
With the correct spacer and tension spring, your 9/0 should work properly...if you had to. The 9/0 doesn't come with a top-hat, but as the guys have mentioned it is a much better choice using one. A delrin right under it does wonders moving the star under load.
Sal
Is that a Penn Part? If so, what is the part number. If not, how does one order them?
Thanks!
Andy
Quote from: steelhead_killer on February 20, 2017, 02:48:27 AM
Is that a Penn Part? If so, what is the part number. If not, how does one order them?
Thanks!
Andy
Penn part #136-114
Easily obtainable on the big auction site.
Sal
Thanks for the input. What options do I have if I don't purchase this part for allowing the star to put pressure on the drag stack when fully down?
Quote from: wsenti on February 20, 2017, 12:23:40 PM
Thanks for the input. What options do I have if I don't purchase this part for allowing the star to put pressure on the drag stack when fully down?
I need to see what you have in your gears, you are only showing the outer parts.
At the moment I'm upgrading one for a member, here is the layout of the washers before my upgrades.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20170218_084040.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20170218_084040.jpg.html)
The reel was working fine with the stock washer with the felt on it, he wanted more drags, second dog and some other goodies.
Sal
Andy go back and read the posts. Handi (Keith) said he generously would send you one and everyone is ignoring him. Even you Sal. Fai attenzione. dominick
I read it. I just don't want to use up my reel karma on a part that is easily obtainable for a little $. Plus the offer was made to another member. Just sayin... ;D ;D
Andy
I'll check; may have one. A lot has been paid forward to me so I'm a fan of paying forward on that karma. Sal and Dominick being two of many that have helped me out.
Quote from: Dominick on February 20, 2017, 04:59:28 PM
Andy go back and read the posts. Handi (Keith) said he generously would send you one and everyone is ignoring him. Even you Sal. Fai attenzione. dominick
Sorry I didn't see it, didn't mean to ruffle your feathers old man :-* Keith knows I don't ignore him ;)
Its on the way tomorrow :D
I'm thinkin' I should use this top hat pressure plate on the 6/0 I'm going to restore...it also has the short spacer and a few wave washers. I'd also like to slip the delrin in there too...what's the size needed? 8)
That Andy is a Humble Guy.
I tried to give him am insert and he would have nothing of the like.
It is on the way to him.
When somebody here gives me something. I appreciate it very much.
Sometimes, it is beyond your control.
I just chalk it up and pay it forward.
The way it was meant to be. ;)
Now unruffle your feathers Dominick.
You are among Friends.
You have been kind of testy lately.
I think you need a Hug. :-*
Thank you Daron for the Motive Fab insert. After some sanding it went in with a little force. So, I put the delrin washer under the main gear. Then alternating the fiber and metals into the PC SS gear until the last extra thick metal washer on top. So next is the other delrin washer, top hat, tension spring, star? The reason I ask is that it seems the drag ramps quickly with small adjustment to the star.
Thanks!
Andy
You have a lot of horsepower in there now Andy.
That is how it should work. You are utilizing both sides of the drag washers instead of one. When they start grabbing, you better hold on.
I try to set mine up so there is a slight amount of drag with the star backed all the way off.
This is just my personal preference.
You have them all greased up. Right?
Quote from: wsenti on February 20, 2017, 12:23:40 PM
Thanks for the input. What options do I have if I don't purchase this part for allowing the star to put pressure on the drag stack when fully down?
You should be receiving the "top hat" chromed metal washer, the thick tension washer to go on top, a set of Carbontex drags, and a Delrin washer in just a couple more days. They were sent first class mail.
Keith
Quote from: handi2 on February 25, 2017, 05:56:45 PM
Quote from: wsenti on February 20, 2017, 12:23:40 PM
Thanks for the input. What options do I have if I don't purchase this part for allowing the star to put pressure on the drag stack when fully down?
You should be receiving the "top hat" chromed metal washer, the thick tension washer to go on top, a set of Carbontex drags, and a Delrin washer in just a couple more days. They were sent first class mail.
Keith
Nice going Daron!
Keith, I've noticed you as well have been sending out lots of stuff to many members here, including myself. Thanks for doing this.
Sal
Sal its no problem sending stuff out if I remember to do it. That's the only hard part. I usually too busy to go online during the day. I tell someone I have it and will send it but always forget!!
Thank you for doing the Cortez Jigmaster's for me. I get reels shipped to me from all over so when the postman put the box on the floor it was 5 days later before I opened it. They are still in the box waiting for me to finish them.
Keith
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 25, 2017, 04:56:03 AM
You have a lot of horsepower in there now Andy.
That is how it should work. You are utilizing both sides of the drag washers instead of one. When they start grabbing, you better hold on.
I try to set mine up so there is a slight amount of drag with the star backed all the way off.
This is just my personal preference.
You have them all greased up. Right?
Daron, they are all greased and in the configuration I mentioned earlier, with he star backed all the way off there is still slight drag. So, I guess it is correctly installed. Can you tell this is my first 9/0 upgrade? lol Thanks again!
Andy
Quote from: steelhead_killer on February 26, 2017, 01:25:54 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on February 25, 2017, 04:56:03 AM
You have a lot of horsepower in there now Andy.
That is how it should work. You are utilizing both sides of the drag washers instead of one. When they start grabbing, you better hold on.
I try to set mine up so there is a slight amount of drag with the star backed all the way off.
This is just my personal preference.
You have them all greased up. Right?
Daron, they are all greased and in the configuration I mentioned earlier, with he star backed all the way off there is still slight drag. So, I guess it is correctly installed. Can you tell this is my first 9/0 upgrade? lol Thanks again!
Andy
A slight drag is normal with my insert kits. You will notice it gets a little looser as the cf washers break in. Due to manufacturing tolerances, sometimes the cf washers are a little tight in the insert, and can create a small amount of pressure on the drag stack even with the star backed off. After some use, it will most likely loosen up a little.
You Make a Quality Product Adam.
I have had a few people come at me for your inserts lately.
I've sold all that I have besides the ones in my reels.
I fish a 12 and 14/0 with all the goods when I make it to Florida.
Andy knows what he is doing. He has a Gen 1 in his 9/0.
He better hold on if he hooks something worthy of testing it.
I'm working on another batch of 113h and 114h/115. Should be ready in a couple of weeks.