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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Newell Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Bill_N on May 17, 2021, 08:24:14 PM

Title: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: Bill_N on May 17, 2021, 08:24:14 PM
I have a S338-3.6 and a 440-3.6 that I'd like to change over to 5-1. Are these parts available?

Thanks, Bill
Title: Re: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: alantani on May 17, 2021, 10:17:11 PM
originals?  no.  only aftermarket.  but stock 4:1 penn jigmaster gears should work. 
Title: Re: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: Bill_N on May 17, 2021, 10:53:06 PM
Who are the aftermarket sources? I'm not finding them online
Title: Re: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: Swami805 on May 17, 2021, 11:28:46 PM
Gear sets pop up on ebay from time to time, other than that it's hard to find them. Be easier to sell those and buy a few reels
Title: Re: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: alantani on May 17, 2021, 11:32:39 PM
https://www.prochallenger.com/product/112h-or-jigmaster-500-501-standard-gear-set-kit/63?cs=true&cst=custom
Title: Re: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: PacRat on May 18, 2021, 06:11:18 AM
Bill,
If you're willing to part with one of those 3.6:1 gear sets; shoot me a PM and let me know what you'd want for one.
-Mike
Title: Re: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: Bill_N on May 18, 2021, 12:22:54 PM
I looked on eBay briefly but only saw some main gears. Will the Jigmaster gear set fit both the 338 & 440?
Title: Re: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: Bill_N on May 18, 2021, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: Bill_N on May 18, 2021, 12:22:54 PM
I looked on eBay briefly but only saw some pinion gears. Will the Jigmaster gear set fit both the 338 & 440?

If I can get the 5-1 gears I think I'll hold onto the 3.6-1 gears for spares.
Title: Re: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: Bryan Young on May 18, 2021, 02:48:08 PM
Quote from: Bill_N on May 18, 2021, 12:22:54 PM
I looked on eBay briefly but only saw some pinion gears. Will the Jigmaster gear set fit both the 338 & 440?
Only the 4:1 gear set will fit. The pinion gear of the 5:1 gear set has a smaller collar than Newell's gear set.
Title: Re: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: Bill_N on May 18, 2021, 10:23:28 PM
All I see on eBay for both reels are main gears, no pinions. Seems weird to me.
Title: Re: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: Swami805 on May 18, 2021, 11:21:36 PM
I could use a few pinions, i have a few orphan main gears.  Never seem to see them on ebay
Title: Re: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: Black Pearl on May 18, 2021, 11:35:52 PM
Quote from: alantani on May 17, 2021, 11:32:39 PM
https://www.prochallenger.com/product/112h-or-jigmaster-500-501-standard-gear-set-kit/63?cs=true&cst=custom

I thought that Jigmaster 505/506 gear set might fit Newell. I could be wrong.

I made this set by copying Newell gear set https://www.prochallenger.com/product/jigmaster-505-506-stainless-steel-gear-set/71?cs=true&cst=custom

This one is the 3.6:1 https://www.prochallenger.com/product/3-6-1-newell-200-300-and-400-series-stainless-steel-gear-set/32?cs=true&cst=custom
Title: Re: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: Bryan Young on May 19, 2021, 03:57:06 AM
Quote from: Black Pearl on May 18, 2021, 11:35:52 PM
Quote from: alantani on May 17, 2021, 11:32:39 PM
https://www.prochallenger.com/product/112h-or-jigmaster-500-501-standard-gear-set-kit/63?cs=true&cst=custom

I thought that Jigmaster 505/506 gear set might fit Newell. I could be wrong.

I made this set by copying Newell gear set https://www.prochallenger.com/product/jigmaster-505-506-stainless-steel-gear-set/71?cs=true&cst=custom

This one is the 3.6:1 https://www.prochallenger.com/product/3-6-1-newell-200-300-and-400-series-stainless-steel-gear-set/32?cs=true&cst=custom

Alan,

If you made the collar on your 5:1 pinion the same inside diameter as your 4:1 pinion gear, then yes, it'll fit. If not, it will not fit because the 5:1 pinion has a smaller inside diameter collar.
Title: Re: Newell 5-1 Gears
Post by: Bill_N on May 20, 2021, 01:29:44 PM
Can you verify the fit as Bryan is saying above?

Quote from: Black Pearl on May 18, 2021, 11:35:52 PM
Quote from: alantani on May 17, 2021, 11:32:39 PM
https://www.prochallenger.com/product/112h-or-jigmaster-500-501-standard-gear-set-kit/63?cs=true&cst=custom

I thought that Jigmaster 505/506 gear set might fit Newell. I could be wrong.

I made this set by copying Newell gear set https://www.prochallenger.com/product/jigmaster-505-506-stainless-steel-gear-set/71?cs=true&cst=custom

This one is the 3.6:1 https://www.prochallenger.com/product/3-6-1-newell-200-300-and-400-series-stainless-steel-gear-set/32?cs=true&cst=custom