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Title: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: jgp12000 on March 21, 2024, 01:00:16 PM
I bought a Toro Lawnmower last year to cut around the dock,I've used it maybe 10 times. This year the "Guaranteed to start" mower would not start.I found this youtube and fixed the mower,easy stuff. The jet just plugs in. My 1st dealings with a plastic body carb,I have never heard of them before? You have to find the proper jet for your engine number of course.This year I plan on draining the gas and letting the motor run until burns up all the remaining gas in the carb like I usually do  ::) . This mower doesn't have an oil drain plug  or a throttle lever,supposedly you just check the oil and add if needed.I plan on changing it once with synthetic then letting it roll.

https://youtu.be/-jcGEpklHwI?si=DVBkUC1vfTO7AkeQ

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00THQN11S?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: oldmanjoe on March 21, 2024, 01:30:16 PM
 :)  Woman around the corner asked if I could get one of the two lawn mowers started .
  Both have this style carburetor .   I stabbed  the jets with a torch tip cleaner and compressed air  .   It does not take much for them to plug up, the bowels looked clean , no silt in the bottom .
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on March 21, 2024, 01:39:21 PM
I love my $120 used 4 stroke fuel injected Honda mower.

Never seen a damn bit of maintenance. Knock on wood the hardest time I ever had starting the thing was after 3 months of no use over winter, 4 pulls.
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: jgp12000 on March 21, 2024, 01:59:15 PM
Yep,Joe I saved the old jet and will do that as well for back up.Jason them Honda motors are great my pressure washer has one cranks one pull most of the time,I do not like the auto choke on it though,prefer manual.For some reason my cub cadet ZTR with a kohler needs starter fluid to "wake up" fairly often. My tractor buddy turned me on to starter fluid as hand cleaner,prolly not good,but works  ;)
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: foakes on March 21, 2024, 02:33:57 PM
This mower doesn't have an oil drain plug  or a throttle lever, supposedly you just check the oil and add if needed.I plan on changing it once with synthetic then letting it roll.
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Regardless of what anyone tells you, or even the owners manual —- the oils needs to be changed on a regular basis.

For me, that is once a year.

For most of the new gas-powered things we use such as lawnmowers, etc. —- you just pull off the spark plug wire, pull out the oil dipstick —- then tilt the unit on its side to catch the old oil in a drain pan.  Refill with new oil —- careful not to overfill.  Check oil level, reattach spark-plug wire —- done.

For the chainsaws, mowers, weed eaters, generators, pressure washer, generators, post hole augers, and outboards —- I always buy (2) of everything for maintenance (spark plugs, gas filters, oil filters, air cleaners, oil).  The parts each go into a clear ziplock bag that is clearly marked with a sharpie —- and these hang above the garden workbench on a pegboard hook.  When I use up something —- I replace it before needed to keep the spare maintenance parts supply ready.

The first oil change is critical (just like on a vehicle engine) —- and should be done after a few usages of the mower.

On new vehicles —- I have always recommended changing the oil the first time at 2000 miles —- then every 5000 miles after that.  Just proactive care and maintenance.  The manufacturer's do not tell you this.

This is because any tiny bits of metal coming from a new engine breaking in —- need to be drained, eliminated, and replaced with new oil.

Same thing I do with our vehicles.  Then I save the old oil in
2 gallon containers to start our burn piles with.  Which the wife is doing today.

Manufacturers are always trying to tout "maintenance free" stuff.  But most knowledgeable folks won't fall for that.

Good to run the gas out like you are doing.  But if you don't —- just add a little gas stabilizer to the gas tank prior to storage —- such as Seafoam, or similar.

I know all of this may sound corny —- but it has worked well for me over the decades.

Honda motors are a little more expensive —- but seem to really hold up well over years and years.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: jgp12000 on March 21, 2024, 03:49:48 PM
Yep Fred,they prolly making them throwaway like everything else so you buy a new one,I will change it like always :al
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: Keta on March 21, 2024, 04:41:28 PM
Are you using e-0 or adulterated gas, e-10 or worse e-15+?

No oil drain plug is BS!!!  I change oil in all of my small motors every spring and none have ever had crap e-10 in them.  I also use Stable in my "e-0 ONLY" marked gas cans and fill my jeep with them in the fall so I have fresh gas in the spring.
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: jgp12000 on March 21, 2024, 06:11:05 PM
I believe it had e-gas in it last year,I use to always use non-ethanol. The closest non-ethanol station pay at the pump was always down so I just used e-gas.Recently we had a new QT built even closer with 0e so I will go back to it.A little futher ride we have a Buc-ee's that Has 93 0E,I put that in my grandsons chinese 4-wheeler.
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: quang tran on May 07, 2024, 07:38:53 AM
I used to hate mowing lawn as its take away my fishing time until I pick up from scrap metal a Honda HR214 ,fix it up and start having fun while cutting grass .These GX engine last for ever I never seen any that cylinder worn out out of spec, most of them only need carburetor cleaning the worst one just need to replace rings so I keep looking for the one that they throw away at scrap metal and rebuilt them
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: Cor on May 07, 2024, 10:49:43 AM
My maintenance routine on these type of garden appliances can not be compared to what I do to my reels.

I have a mower with an old cast alloy body and I tossed out the arm exerciser B & S motor around 1981 and replaced it with a 2 stroke Robin Japanese motor which is still going strong, well sort off.
It now needs a governor oil change, new air filter, and probably a clean and service of the carburetor.

Chainsaws I won't even mention, my next one will be an environmentally friendly model and will be fed by solar panels.
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: Gfish on May 07, 2024, 09:32:48 PM
Before you tilt a no-oil drain plug unit over, be sure n' turn off the fuel line gas flow. I've actually seen some gas end-up in the dirty oil by not doing it.
 Gotta drive 20 miles to a station for no ethanol gas, worth it? I own't know, that's 2 gallons @ $5.25/gallon.
So, how prevalent are fuel tanks made of plastic? Do automobiles have 'em now? All the portable gas cans are plastic.
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: quang tran on May 07, 2024, 10:30:30 PM
Quote from: Cor on May 07, 2024, 10:49:43 AMMy maintenance routine on these type of garden appliances can not be compared to what I do to my reels.

I have a mower with an old cast alloy body and I tossed out the arm exerciser B & S motor around 1981 and replaced it with a 2 stroke Robin Japanese motor which is still going strong, well sort off.
It now needs a governor oil change, new air filter, and probably a clean and service of the carburetor.

Chainsaws I won't even mention, my next one will be an environmentally friendly model and will be fed by solar panels.
2 stroke engine have higher speed so it cut better,speed do the cut like the old lawnboy , Toro Recycler with 2 stroke 5HP Suzuki is the most powerful walk behind mower .Environment friendly do make some trimmer ,blower hard to start ,carburetor adjusted too lean at factory some of them cover up the adjustment screws that's why install after market carburetor make it run better .The GX 160 install on Commercial HRC 216 have 5.5 HP anywhere else, come to CA it have only 3.7 HP to meet state regulation
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: jgp12000 on May 10, 2024, 07:05:37 PM
I am by no means "green" or vegan but I love my ego blower ad weedeater,I rarely use my stihl unless its for heavy brush. My toro Doesn't have a fuel shutoff.
I have 0E 2 miles away now and will use a fluid extractor to remove the gas At the end of season then crank it To run out any in the carb this year.
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: Cor on May 10, 2024, 07:11:00 PM
@ quang tran
You show me yours now I am very embarrassed to show you mine.    Mine is 43 Y old and looks terrible. ;)
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: Midway Tommy on May 10, 2024, 07:45:42 PM
Call me old fashioned or stubborn if anyone wants to, but I'm skeptical regarding all these battery operated tools and equipment. I'm not a fan. At some point battery disposal pollution will outweigh what little environmental savings they offer. We are already seeing issues regarding that aspect. People seem to forget that they need electricity to be charged and when they're worn out something needs to be done with them. 🙄
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: Gfish on May 10, 2024, 08:49:06 PM
Yup. What to do though? I hate lawns to begin with. Yeah, they look nice and they're good to play on, but expensive to care for and time consuming and lawnmower/weedeater noise oriented. Gimme cement, bout 10' around my house and 10' wide driveway.
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: oldmanjoe on May 10, 2024, 09:20:22 PM
;D  OK I call you Old fashion or Stubborn , I am in the same boat .  I do have gas powered and 110 electric powered blowers , chain saws and hedge trimmers .    I will pick the 110  electric tools  first.    Cheaper to run  , always starts when you hit the trigger .

  I do not know what the cost analyst is to charge up batteries verse using 110 straight .
      Yes it is nice to pick up a battery tool for the quick work .
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: Donnyboat on May 10, 2024, 10:11:30 PM
My motor dont give any trouble @ all, artificial turf, had it for 11years now, n its still looking good, cheers Don.
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: Gfish on May 10, 2024, 10:34:15 PM
That's it! Artificial turf.
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on May 11, 2024, 12:26:38 AM
Joe your yard is all planters do you even have any grass?
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: MarkT on May 11, 2024, 12:46:10 AM
My mower, hedge trimmer, string trimmer and blower are all battery powered. Hey, I'm in Klownifornia!
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: oldmanjoe on May 11, 2024, 01:31:39 AM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on May 11, 2024, 12:26:38 AMJoe your yard is all planters do you even have any grass?
I have a strip in the middle of the backyard and down the far side of the house .  Usually a 5 minute job including 1 stop to empty the pickup bag !
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: Midway Tommy on May 11, 2024, 04:21:40 AM
Quote from: oldmanjoe on May 10, 2024, 09:20:22 PM;D  OK I call you Old fashion or Stubborn , I am in the same boat .  I do have gas powered and 110 electric powered blowers , chain saws and hedge trimmers .    I will pick the 110  electric tools  first.    Cheaper to run  , always starts when you hit the trigger .

  I do not know what the cost analyst is to charge up batteries verse using 110 straight .
      Yes it is nice to pick up a battery tool for the quick work .

Most of my smaller stuff like blowers, weedeaters, etc. are electric. It's all those batteries polluting the world that I dislike and am against.  ;)
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: Cor on May 11, 2024, 10:34:25 AM
Quote from: Gfish on May 10, 2024, 08:49:06 PMYup. What to do though? I hate lawns to begin with. Yeah, they look nice and they're good to play on, but expensive to care for and time consuming and lawnmower/weedeater noise oriented. Gimme cement, bout 10' around my house and 10' wide driveway.


No matter what we as human kind do now, there are too many of us, more than this earth can sustain.
I prefer to keep soil and indigenous plants around my yard, looks nice and is as close to what that patch is supposed to look like..... I think.

Just think of drainage if you have cement, concrete, pavers and whatever where must all the water go when there are big rains?    All around the world there are floods.

Have any of you seen this:-
It's a bit long but an animation of a new pumping system currently being installed in the Netherlands, those pumps can fill an Olympic size pool in 50 seconds!  There are high quality webcams somewhere, I HAVE SEEN THEM BUT CAN'T FIND THEM NOW.

The Netherlands has a new problem, too much water is now moving from land towards the sea and they now need to increase the rate of drainage in to the ocean.    They have managed their old problem too well, keeping the ocean out of the land.

Sorry, this is deviating a bit from plastic carbs...LOL
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: jgp12000 on May 11, 2024, 02:10:14 PM
Off topic, but I got some new skechers slipin shoes, I love them- fat boy,buffet, no strings... "Vegan" was on the box  ::)  good Lord,people have gone absolutely crazy !!!
Title: Re: Briggs & Stratton Plastic Carb Fix !
Post by: Brewcrafter on May 11, 2024, 05:53:48 PM
I'm with Tommy; if I'm in the garage that drill is usually an ancient B&D 110V corded drill (that probably weighs 5#  ;D )and I have a compressor and full set of pnuematics, but 9/10 times on the vehicles I am grabbing that Milwaukee cordless impact.  So handy and powerful, (and I would be first to admit given the price I am probably trying to subconsciously justify the purchase by using it more). - john