Good morning members. I'm new to DQ reels. I find them well built. I fish a good bit for Panfish and Pickerel. Bass and Channel Cats are my occasional by-catch. I prefer to use old equipment, i.e. 1950's and 1960's stuff. I Clean and replace parts in reels and re-wrap rods as necessary to enjoy my fishing. I used to say "hell no I'm not a collector", but we all know how that goes.
My primary collection consists of Johnson, Abumatics, Zebco, Mitchell, Penn and now DQ. I was recommended to this site by a fellow at fishingtalks. He said Fred would set me right up. Well that may or may not be the case as it may turn out that I'm un-helpable.
I have 3 DQ reels. Two are Finessa and one is a 247. The 247 is sporting a broken, partial spool and does not spin. The two finessa are fine and have been thought cleaned and re-assembled. They are big. One of the two needs bail parts.
Would someone here be able to tell me what models these are?
Don in PA, USA
Fred is traveling but will be along directly.
Thanks. I hope you all answer.
Good Morning, Don —
The (2) Finessas appear to be 285's from the mid to late 50's. These were the precursors to the 330 reels introduced in the 60's. Starting with the 280 Finessas — and going up through the 285's — there were (4) variations of these reels — although many (most) parts will interchange. These are good mid-size reels for a wide variety of fish. Bronze and steel worm-drive — solidly built — well worth restoring and fishing.
The 247 was manufactured in 1968 — similar to the 248 — which is part of a more economical series of DAM Quicks.
This series includes the very small 218, 228, 238, 247, and 248. No bearing — brass sleeved instead — gears and drive train not as robust as the Finessas and other Dam Quicks. But a solid reel that is also well worth restoring.
I have any parts that would be needed for all of these reels.
Each would need a full disassembly, evacuation of all old, dried up grease — full cleaning — burnishing and polishing of all parts — inspection of any parts that might need improvement or replacement — reassembly using modern synthetic grease and oil — micro tuned — and tested for all proper functions.
Let us know, as we are all glad to help with your projects as you go forward.
Best, Fred
I really like the finessa and plan to fish them. They've been completely dis-assembled and carefully cleaned and re-assembled. I did notice that the one needs a new bail spring as the old one is broken in half. I used blue Penn Reel Grease internally and 3-in-one on the spring/bail. These are fantastically built....a little akin to cardinals that I've seen.
If I took the 247 apart and played it all out you thing you'd be able to sell me replacement parts? 247 is the size reel I'm after.
I'm new to this brand and am quite impressed. I also fish some Mitchells , Langley and Early Zebco Spinflo but these appear even stronger built.
I hope to learn about them over time.
Yes, Don —
All parts are available.
One of the reel brands that I specialize in is DQ. Possibly have 10 times more parts than any other shop in the world for the DQ's between 1950 to 1990.
Best, Fred
Welcome to the site !! I see you like bulletproof reels ... Have a look around at the older posts , I think a 220 or a 110 would put a gleam in your eye .
Quote from: 2Boston on November 05, 2021, 05:01:35 PM
...247 is the size reel I'm after.
I'm new to this brand and am quite impressed...
Quote from: oldmanjoe on November 05, 2021, 11:56:24 PM
Welcome to the site !! I see you like bulletproof reels ... Have a look around at the older posts , I think a 220 or a 110 would put a gleam in your eye .
ditto... the whole point is the bronze/steel worm-drive
put the restorations on the backburner & let Fred guide you through sellection among:
220/220n VS. 110/110n VS. many later 00/01/02 models in 2000 & 1400 size... maybe 1200, too
Thanks for the welcome and yes I will get guidance from Fred as he came most highly recommended. I don't restore reels but merely collect reels specifically for use. Each reel, of any brand, gets carefully disassembled and cleaned. Broken parts are replaced and then the reel is reassembled. Some I've sold, some I've rehomed for others. But that is simply mechanical stuff and not what I call restoration. That worm drive is soooo nice.
My preference is to have old, old, old....as old as I can keep running. I grew up Poor in the 60's in a happy Farm Family and I was the only one that fished. Mom bought me a Zebco 202 from the toy store in town and I watched friends go off with Penns and Mitchells and so forth. So now in my post child raising years am going back to what I missed. I really like Mitchell 304 and 408. I have and I fish all the early overbuilt Johnsons and Zebco's, manor which are older than me and I was born in 58. I fish Late Langley and early Zebco SpinFlo. Then someone introduced me to DQ and I'm pretty darn impressed. Some have said they're akin to Cardinals but I wouldn't know yet.
Point is the DQ finessa is too big for my normal work in the panfish and Pickerel lakes locally. As time passes I'll be reading up on this line of reels and will try to get a grasp the lineage and model numbers. I'm sure you folks will chuckle at immature questions but will help me learn the ropes.
The 265 Microlite, 110 or 110N would be a good size reel for what you're after. Personally, I'd choose the Microlite over the 110 or 110N but they're all adequate ULs. The 1000 & 1001 are newer skirted spool versions of the earlier models I mentioned.
Greetings, Don, from Minnesota.
Please, do not hesitate to ask ANY questions that come to mind. There are folks on this site with all levels of expertise on many different topics, and you might be surprised to see that some, with what they themselves would admit are minimal levels of experience, have extremely interesting queries and offer valuable tidbits of knowledge.
Frank
Good Day,
is there any way to fix chipped paint on DAM Quick reels?
I have 330 models but paint chipped ,
Thank you
I typically take them completely apart — clean every part really well — then use flat black wrinkle paint to restore them.
The body, rotor, sideplate, and badge need to be heated to about 200 degrees after cleaning and a quick sanding job — not removing the paint — just roughing it up and sanding down any flaky edges for good adherence — then spray the (4) parts — set the curing oven at 200 degrees — let them cook for about 20 minutes — turn off the oven — let the parts cool — and they are ready to reassemble. And they look like brand new. Can't tell the difference if done properly.
Got to remove the fish emblem, and also tape the exposed opening areas, plus insert silicone plugs in the crank bushing, and any other places that the paint does not need to be.
Emblem just glues back on.
Best, Fred
Quote from: foakes on November 09, 2021, 02:52:59 AM
I typically take them completely apart — clean every part really well — then use flat black wrinkle paint to restore them.
The body, rotor, sideplate, and badge need to be heated to about 200 degrees after cleaning and a quick sanding job — not removing the paint — just roughing it up and sanding down any flaky edges for good adherence — then spray the (4) parts — set the curing oven at 200 degrees — let them cook for about 20 minutes — turn off the oven — let the parts cool — and they are ready to reassemble. And they look like brand new. Can't tell the difference if done properly.
Got to remove the fish emblem, and also tape the exposed opening areas, plus insert silicone plugs in the crank bushing, and any other places that the paint does not need to be.
Emblem just glues back on.
Best, Fred
oh no. this is too complicated for medical professional ;D
I will find some one to do it.
Thank you
I can understand not thinking you can do it yourself but once you get into it and remember to pass it by experienced folk its a breeze.
So the opinion is that my finessa's are 285's from late 50's. Great. Where is the model # on it. How do I know what model it is. Are there no model #'s on the older reels? I'm looking for a way to verify the model. Imaging that I'm trying to prove to someone what the model is and the features I rely on to convince them are ????
I think these reels will be perfect for some Catfishing and Salmon Fishing. What do you think?
I think I will take these apart and spray them as mentioned. Sounds practical.
Might be on the underside of the spool — the model number.
Many of the earlier DQ reels did not have numbers like 110 through 550.
These were the earlier models such as the Standard, 240 Junior, Finessas 280 & 285, Microlite 265, Super 270/275.
As to painting and restoring these DQ reels — it is not that tough of a job.
Here are a few photos of the process and the finished results.
Best, Fred
Quote from: Riy2018 on November 10, 2021, 08:24:11 PM
oh no. this is too complicated for medical professional ;D
I will find some one to do it.
Thank you
why? if you slip up a bit, you rarely hurt more than your pride
reels don't scream, or bleed... or, SUE ;)
Very impressive shop. I've enjoyed the cleaning of these reels and now I see the model# on the back of the spool. Thank you for that.
Quote from: 2Boston on November 11, 2021, 12:13:06 AM
So the opinion is that my finessa's are 285's from late 50's. Great. Where is the model # on it. How do I know what model it is. Are there no model #'s on the older reels? I'm looking for a way to verify the model. Imaging that I'm trying to prove to someone what the model is and the features I rely on to convince them are ????
I think these reels will be perfect for some Catfishing and Salmon Fishing. What do you think?
I think I will take these apart and spray them as mentioned. Sounds practical.
Here is your homework assignment , scroll and click away . Google will translate it if you don`t read German .
http://www.saschas-sammler-homepage.de/rollendam3.html
My dad used German but only the promotional words when he found me slacking on my farm chores, lol. He wouldn't teach us German. I wish he would've.
Anyway I'll read through this. And I saw a few others here as well. Hey this reel stuff isn't addictive is it.
Now, I need a bail spring for this reel. How shall I order?
Do members like this 247 to fish with? This one is seemingly a Frankenreel.
Quote from: 2Boston on November 11, 2021, 02:25:12 AM
Do members like this 247 to fish with? This one is seemingly a Frankenreel.
??? The spring and washer were under the spool ?
Yes. Under the spool. And the clicker thingydingy gear sleeve is all worn and bent. Not really sure how that goes. Would love to know if their are schemAtics of this reel. And I apologize for calling it a Frankenstein reel. When I opened it there was no sign of any water penetration nor any corrosion. It appears to never have been opened.
The spring and washer goes in the front side of the spool.
Sandbar has the zip PDF D.A.M. Quick Schematics 2021.zip files in the above pinned post
D.A.M. QUICK SCHEMATICS — Factory Service & Part Number Shop Manual
Quote from: 2Boston on November 11, 2021, 02:18:42 AM
Now, I need a bail spring for this reel. How shall I order?
PM me your full name and address, Boston —
I'll get a new bail spring in the mail to you tomorrow — N/C.
Best, Fred
I will do so shortly. First I have to wait for you to wake up on the west coast and answer a few questions. O maybe oldmanjoe or others will know. My 247 has a 248 spool on it. and all the washers at the top are missing, thanks to the schematics I viewed on sandbars post. it is obvious that the spool had snapped in half right through the middle and the cork is missing though I'm not sure the filler corks were used on this model. I feel like I should just replace the spool and get all new washers just to be safe. I have the spring. I have the two washers that go below the spring. The clicker gear where it engages the shaft is beat up and doesn't engage the tiny crossbar. Pictures below.
I don't see a link Joe refered to so here is one
LINK TO DAM SCHEMATICS (https://alantani.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32580.0;attach=96114)
OldmanJoe that was mean of you.....not a good way to treat a new member. Now that I've completed your assignment I'm doomed. Swept away. I'll never recover...might as well become a collector.
Gosh, What cool reels. I went back to spincast this year after a 50 yr hiatus. I use spincast for bass size on down. I really liked the DAM spincast reels but I was clobbered by their fly reels, golly, Theyre awesome.
Thanks for the link!
Thanks
Wompus!
I got them both and the 247 was missing. Is that by chance because they were identical to the 248?
Quote from: 2Boston on November 11, 2021, 02:18:47 PM
Thanks
Wompus!
I got them both and the 247 was missing. Is that by chance because they were identical to the 248?
I believe the 247 uses a different Spool assy.
I have the Schematic here in my book and will scan it in a bit and upload it for everyone .
Thanks!
Not in a hurry.
Midway Tommy, While I get my feet wet with this brand and learn the models better let me say that I'm looking for the size between ultra lite and my 285's. You mentioned the 110 as being a UL size. Would a 220 be a bit bigger?
Here it is and note the 248 has the spool Assy as part number 248SK and this 247 is 247SK and quite different
in its make up .
Left click once to enlarge a bit . Left Click once more to super size it .
Or copy it to your own photo editor to size it the way you want . ;D
Yes indeed. Different enough that whomever owned this before was never likely to succeed with these parts. Thanks so much.
Quote from: 2Boston on November 11, 2021, 02:17:08 PM
OldmanJoe that was mean of you.....not a good way to treat a new member. Now that I've completed your assignment I'm doomed. Swept away. I'll never recover...might as well become a collector.
Gosh, What cool reels. I went back to spincast this year after a 50 yr hiatus. I use spincast for bass size on down. I really liked the DAM spincast reels but I was clobbered by their fly reels, golly, Theyre awesome.
Thanks for the link!
OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhh Your goner fit rite in here ........ We don`t collect , we adopt the orphans and give them a little love and new clothes when needed .
Well said!
I will put your parts request together for you today, Don —
And mail it this afternoon — since we will be gone for 5 or 6 days — leaving tomorrow morning.
The only difference between a DQ 247 & 248 —
The 248 has the push button quick change spool release — the 247 has a screw on drag knob similar to the smaller 218, 228, and 238.
These reels require different spool shafts also to accommodate the two types of spools.
Best, Fred
That sets the record straight then. I have the right knob but the wrong spool. And that explains why the Drag gear doesn't engage the axle pin. Thanks Fred!
Quote from: oldmanjoe on November 11, 2021, 03:22:15 PM
OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhh Your goner fit rite in here ........ We don`t collect , we adopt the orphans and give them a little love and new clothes when needed .
Not all of us.....I'm a traditionalist and originalist at heart, as most who collect are. Modifying a user reel is fine but from the collecting stand point original is where the value is. There's something to be said about rescuing a spinner from the parts bin, graveyard or dump, but I prefer any reels I purchase to be as close to original as possible. Repaints are collectors' nightmares.
The 220 size is in between the 110 and 330/280/285. The 220 would be light size, not ultra light, but a nice size reel to fish with.
Tommy the way you word your viewpoint is well appreciated and accurate. I have some newer looking older reels but I fish all of them except a Johnson 160 Guide and a 150 Commander. They're almost perfect and until I get a better set of rod holders for the boat they're staying on the shelf. I like things to stay original. That said I saw some red ones that are sharp and a bunch of guys I know have switched Mitchell 308 gears out for 408's...I don't blame them. True and authentic restoration can cost hundreds per reel and I'm simply not there.
I was really poor during the 60's, 70's, 80's and early 90'. I'm catching up on all I missed back then. The heyday of metal reels....very sentimental using these old reels. The tic tic tic of their metallic parts are very warm and nostalgic sounding. The new stuff is great but the old is heartwarming.
Thanks for the help. Once I get these two fixed up I'll look for a 220.
Quote from: Midway Tommy on November 11, 2021, 04:57:25 PM
Quote from: oldmanjoe on November 11, 2021, 03:22:15 PM
OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhh Your goner fit rite in here ........ We don`t collect , we adopt the orphans and give them a little love and new clothes when needed .
Not all of us.....I'm a traditionalist and originalist at heart, as most who collect are. Modifying a user reel is fine but from the collecting stand point original is where the value is. There's something to be said about rescuing a spinner from the parts bin, graveyard or dump, but I prefer any reels I purchase to be as close to original as possible. Repaints are collectors' nightmares.
Each of us are different in our approach to reel restoration repair, service, and collecting, Don —
An experienced and knowledgeable collector like Tommy — wants the reels he collects to be as original as possible, hopefully with boxes, and also ready to fish — if desired. Repainted reels for a collector are like the Anti-Christ. I understand that.
For others — they just want a well prepped and serviced reel to catch fish — it doesn't matter if the reel is a little rough on the outside — as long as it is serviced, lubed, and all functions work well.
My approach is to restore the reel to factory fresh — with no mods or upgrades — and make it ready to fish for whoever wants to use/own it. For me, this generally includes new factory paint, a full strip down — much like restoring a 60's muscle car. Original paint only lasts so long — and I love the nostalgia of fishing with a reel that is 60 years old — will out-perform the newer Tupperware reels from Asia — and not break the bank.
After collecting for 25+ years — what got me to change my mind about purist collecting, was:
When we needed to move our Aunt Barbara up in Bremerton, WA to an advanced assisted living situation 13 years ago — due to age and Alzheimer's. The monthly rate years ago was $5,500. I realized that all of my collecting — if sold by myself, or my wife — might pay for one or two months of care in a home like this. So I made the decision to stop collecting — and start getting these reels out into the world for Anglers to use.
I take as much pride in a reel for a client — as a collector does in their collection of displayed reels.
But I am just a reel mechanic who likes the quality reels I service and restore to be both ready to fish, a reel to be proud of, and also as attractive as when they were new.
It is really just what we like and enjoy. It all works — whether a reel is original, repainted, or just serviced with chips. No big deal.
However, one should NEVER represent a reel as original — if it has been repainted. Always disclose.
It will be up to the purist collector sometime down the road to determine if the reel is repainted or not.
Best, Fred
Accurate!
No sense wrecking equipment that is perfect but I want to fish. That is my focus and collecting falls back behind equipping my grandchildren.
Collectors provide the Oooh's and AAAhs for the rest of us and that is impressive on its own merit.
We're all needed!
Quote from: 2Boston on November 11, 2021, 06:25:28 PM
Accurate!
No sense wrecking equipment that is perfect but I want to fish. That is my focus and collecting falls back behind equipping my grandchildren.
Collectors provide the Oooh's and AAAhs for the rest of us and that is impressive on its own merit.
We're all needed!
I only have three DQ reels. That doesn't make me a "collector," does it?
I'm a farm boy too. Still am, in fact, as my brother and I now own and operate the farm where we grew up. Back in the 50's my parents had some pretty hard times, and the lessons learned didn't leave them when times got better. My mother was always on the hunt for a good bargain, and she found it in the reel on the left, my original 331. She spotted it while Christmas shopping, last one in stock, marked down to $5 because it was the display model. It is, and always has been my favorite reel, and it still works as well today as it did when I first fished with it. Currently, it's on a rod I built myself years ago, using an Ugly Stik blank.
I use it on the St. Lawrence River to fish for smallmouths and walleyes, and the occasional northern pike. The fish in the photo are only average-size for up there, and as you can imagine if you tie into a big one now and then you need a reel with some gumption to handle them. The 331 has it in spades.
The other two reels are another 331 and a 330. I bought them on eBay a few years ago, just because I wanted some spares. Both needed some work, but mostly just cleaning and lubing. The 331 is on an Ugly Stik that I bought for it on Amazon, and the 330 is on another rod I built myself some years back. I've caught bass and walleyes with both of them, too.
All three reels have seen some hard use in their time, have chipped paint, and the first lost the little fish from the body a while back, so for a collector they may have little value. But for me, they are beyond price. :)
Great reel testimonial! Our farm is now a famous wedding venue and my brother and his wife are doing a great job with it. So the 331 is about the same size as the 285, just newer?
Others are no doubt more informed about this, but as I misunderstand it, the 285 morphed into the 330 when the entire model line's ID system was changed. The newer models were 110, 220, 330, 440, and 550 - and possibly another one or two - with each number being a progressively larger reel.
The 331 was the high-speed-retrieve version of the 330. It had a longer handle to give more leverage for that fast retrieve. In my photo, the reel on the right is the 330. Look closely, and you'll see the difference in the handles.
Others should confirm, but I believe the spools from the 331, 330, and 285 are interchangeable, except that the spool for the older 285 was made of metal rather than plastic. My first 331 came with a spare spool in the box. One spool had a cork backing, the other plastic. (I still have both.) Some folks have had problems with plastic spools breaking, but in around 50 years of fishing with mine I haven't lost one - yet. Perhaps that's because I've always used monofilament or co-polymer line, never braid.
The autumn activity that I miss most is filling silo and pheasant hunting.
After listening to your explanations and descriptions I've decided that as the happy owner of two 285 I am setting pretty. And Fred Is setting me up with 247 parts. I'll be ready for spring...early.
Do you appreciate the high speed of the 331 or is it not that big of a deal?
Thanks TJ
My brain says it's not so big a deal for me, because mostly I drift-fish. I motor upstream, drop my line, and let the current take me over what I think is a good area.
Keep in mind that the River is about a mile wide where I fish, and even though I can only use the U.S. half, there are still plenty of those good areas. This past July, there was a bass tournament going on, and it was kind of gratifying to see the pros going over the same spots and fishing much as we do, though they seemed to be working a lot harder and enjoying it less.
Anyway, my brain says not a big deal, but I have to admit that each of the three outfits feels different, and that the old 331 feels the most at home in my hands. Of course, the fact that I've fished with my old friend for fifty years and the others only 3 or 4 could be what's making the difference...
Its Amazing, I assume your talking of the St Lawrence? I've been so close but never have I seen it. Smallmouth heaven I hear. I fish for Gills, Perch and Pickerel now but I want to expand to Pike and Walleye. My current gear is somewhat small for those last two.
Quote from: 2Boston on November 13, 2021, 01:43:03 AM
Its Amazing, I assume your talking of the St Lawrence? I've been so close but never have I seen it. Smallmouth heaven I hear. I fish for Gills, Perch and Pickerel now but I want to expand to Pike and Walleye. My current gear is somewhat small for those last two.
Yes, we rent a camp for a week each summer, near Ogdensburg, NY, within view of the Ogdensburg-Prescott International Bridge. My brother and I have been going there for many years, since we were boys. We'll range upstream to the bridge or so, and downstream a few miles to the downstream end of Galop Island, though the vast bulk of our fishing is done in less than half of that stretch.
We might be tempted to go farther, but we're just using a couple of tinnies with 10hp and 15hp outboards from the 50's, the two boats tied to the dock in my first photo in the earlier post. Besides, we've found the fishing isn't any better at the end of our range than in the middle of it. It's good here and there all over.
We go for mental health reasons, so that we may recover our sanity after trying to bale horse hay in July, and to strengthen it before we face the public when we open our farm stand.
Yes. The smell of crimped clover or Spivey Timothy. Emery clothing the rust off the knotter on the old 19t baler. The smell of hydraulic oil and old rubber baked to the Massey Fergussons in summer sun. I only have the dreams left.
Once the milking is done we head for some farm pond to whack a bass or two right at dark.
Happy Friday!
DAM 330 missing pin in gear to handle.
what metal or plastic can be used to replace it.
please advise.
Thank you
Quote from: Riy2018 on December 10, 2021, 03:14:54 PM
Happy Friday!
DAM 330 missing pin in gear to handle.
what metal or plastic can be used to replace it.
please advise.
Thank you
Best to use the correct pin — the tolerances are so exact on these reels. Not much room for makeshift fixes — although they would work for awhile. With a new pin — you will never need to worry about it again.
Someone just lost the pin in the grease when disassembling the reel.
PM me your full name and address — and I will drop one in the mail today, N/C.
Best, Fred
In the mail, Riyad —
It is a steel roll pin — it is designed to compress just enough to insert into the holes connecting the drive gear and crank axle —
Then it naturally becomes a tight fit.
Part # 100038
Best, Fred
My favorite DQs are my 265 microlite and 220.I prefer the old style AR levers over the N models. I have caught 6+lb bass/cats on both, I believe they could handle most anything in freshwater, with the correct rod, line, and drag setting. I wish I found them out sooner as well, Fred is the DQ guru and has helped me several times on these quality reels.
thank you very much!
Quote from: foakes on December 10, 2021, 06:59:18 PM
In the mail, Riyad —
It is a steel roll pin — it is designed to compress just enough to insert into the holes connecting the drive gear and crank axle —
Then it naturally becomes a tight fit.
Part # 100038
Best, Fred
Many Thanks to Mr.Fred Oakes.
part received and fit perfectly.
I was able to complete cleaning and light grease.
DAM 330 & 330N models
some similarity's.
330 heavier and more bulletproof.
330 N lighter and faster.
Haven't used them for fishing.
I have always loved to chase smallmouth. They are the King of the bass family in my opinion but they are somewhat scarce here in Alabama. In Ontario however, it's like going to bass heaven. The walleye, well great fun catching. Is there a better tasting freshwater fish?
Quote from: AU7172 on February 09, 2022, 10:55:24 PM
I have always loved to chase smallmouth. They are the King of the bass family in my opinion but they are somewhat scarce here in Alabama. In Ontario however, it's like going to bass heaven. The walleye, well great fun catching. Is there a better tasting freshwater fish?
Ontario... The lake or the province? Or the county in New York State? Could be any or all of them. I haven't fished in Ontario Province of Canada, at least, not on purpose. I'm "limited" to staying in NY when on the St. Lawrence, as that's where my lifetime fishing license is good. No worries - the fishing is just as good on this side of the border.
Walleye... Just fried up a filet last evening - made myself a couple of nice fish sandwiches with it. Mighty tasty!
Quote from: AU7172 on February 09, 2022, 10:55:24 PM
I have always loved to chase smallmouth. They are the King of the bass family in my opinion but they are somewhat scarce here in Alabama. In Ontario however, it's like going to bass heaven. The walleye, well great fun catching. Is there a better tasting freshwater fish?
Both those fishies is good eating and we use to have Walleye here in my neck of the woods and lots of Small Mouth .
With the introduction of Stripers here at Lake Whitney they ATE All the Small Mouth along with 3 or 4 FISH KILLS over the last 20 years from what the EGG SPURTZ say was Golden Algae.
In the early 70's they put Walleye in Eagle Mountain Lake up in Ft. Worth and I caught several over 6 pounds .
Don't know what happened to them .Never here anything about anyone catching any .
Quote from: AU7172 on February 09, 2022, 10:55:24 PM
I have always loved to chase smallmouth. They are the King of the bass family in my opinion but they are somewhat scarce here in Alabama
in Southern climates within SMB range, go up in ELEVATION!!!
going
1000' UP, is like driving North many hrs. & many 100's of miles
not sayin' it applies to every body of water, or that you'll find mini-Canada,
but, in general, you should encounter a noticeable improvement in SMB:LMB ratio