Reel Repair by Alan Tani

More progress on the Hardy Altex no.1 restore and a few things learned along the way...

Attached dust cover and installed flier assembly to reel body.

After attaching the dust cover and test fitting flier, I noticed when rotating the flier, it was making contact with something.. After careful examination, I noticed the dust cover screws were dome head and interfering with rotation of flier. I checked my other micro screws and they were all dome head or had a step shoulder, so none of those.
I checked parts installed on the completed flier for misplaced screws and, "bingo!", there were the flat top screws I was looking for! I had mistakenly used them on the bail arm drive gear cover. Same threads, different head shape.
The flat top screws sit flush with the dust cover, when snugged down, and cause for clean rotation. In my previous pictures of flier assembly, you can see misplaced flat top screws on external gear cover picture. Oops!

Next learn as you go lesson. Setting the mechanical bail arm trip gear, so it properly trips the bail during retrieval. If this gear is not "timed" correctly with the bail arm external drive gear, nothing works at all. Gears just snag up and reel is useless.
It took several tries removing trip gear and re positioning it to mesh it differently with the drive gear, in order to get the bail to close correctly and flier to continue to rotate.
I included pictures of trip gear at its different stages through mechanical bail trip.

Just for those who might be gun shy because of the notorious flier bearing assembly, fear not! It's really not that bad. Just micro. I used tiny tweezers to place bearings in ball cage washer. I also used minimal grease on the hard steel "sandwich" washers. This helped to keep the tiny bearings in place. Once the stack is assembled, the flier is inserted into body and infamous collet is snugged down.
Internals next!!

That's why I love doing this. The mental challenges defeated!

i've been using a seaqualizer for the last 5 years in fresh water here in new england to release lake trout and landlocked salmon that i catch here at 80- 100', works well off a downrigger also.

Those aren't the right type, Joe. They need to be the C style similar these:

I picked 4 of these up on eBay for around $1 each. They're mini, or micro size. I had to file them some to fit the circumference correctly. A lot of the C spanners are too big and have too large of a tip to fit in the nut slots.

I wish I could make gears!  They are acutally Penn gears out of the newer Fathom II 2 speed lever drag 40, 60 or 80 size reels.  I got them from Cal's but you should be able to get them from other sites.

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Quote from: mikeysm on May 08, 2024, 04:24:22 PMWho is driving up and who is flying in.

Mike

Driving up with Juan.

At least that's the plan now.

Where do you live Mike?

I live in Atwater ca. I will be taking my van up. I lived up in Redmond before Microsoft ruined it. People from California moved in and prices skyrocketed overnight. I packed up and came back home. I guess you can't get away from the crazy people here. Just look at Colorado, Texas, Arizona and Florida. And now Tennessee all the crazy people ruining their states. You cant escape  it. Maybe they will all leave california and things might change for the good.

Thank you for the great rundown Ron! I'd be happy to start a text group for the trip. If everyone PMs me their number I will get it set up.

Nick

I've seen all kinds of gear, but I think the 4/0 (even the extra narrow) is bigger than you need. 501s are awesome, The 146 sized Newell would be great, my ProGear CS 501s can't be beat. Of course, the same sized lever drag will work as well.

I would run whatever your 20 or light 30 pound long range rod is and you'll be fine. I bring a 6-6 fiberglass jig stick for bait if I'm not using the boats gear, and an 8ft graphite rod for throwing iron. Last year, a dude did real good with swim baits, so you might bring 3-4 of those in the 6 inch range if that is your thing. Sometimes a split shot a few feet in front of a live chovie is the ticket, especially if you don't know how to get your bait deep.

This is NOT a LR trip. Don't bring your SKB box with the kitchen sink. If you've been to Cedros, the Boss' rule works; everything fits in a gallon zip lock (I usually bring 3 medium Planos.) If you bring NO gear, you will fish bait with Dwight's gear and catch just as many fish as us gear whinnies.

I REALLY like 30# braid to floro, especially the thin floro where 30 is 20 diameter. The skipper is a 20# guy, and can catch fish, well like a Skipper. Ted has fished a lot of 30# mono, and the skipper has tied a lot of 20# top shots onto Ted's 30# mono (I watched him.)

Don't let the gear get in the way of having fun. Of course, I tell guys doing their first LR that too and they NEVER listen.

Wayne and I were talking, and it would be a great idea if we could put together a group bring list: Someone bring napkins, someone bring X,Y,Z. Water, lots of drinking water. For 10 guys I'd think a few of the big rectangles of water would work for everyone. If we could figure out dinner, that would be great. Normally everyone swaps whatever munchies they've brought, it isn't always satisfying.

Don't bring too many clothes, their is NOT a lot of room, it isn't the SOA. I bring fresh skivvies for the fishing morning, and put on the clothes that I wear onto the boat back on the last day because the clothes you wear on the whole day of fishing are going to be nasty. You can wear all the rubber from Grunden's you want. Bibs, jacket, boots, body condom, albacore blood is going to soak through your clothes and when you change your skivvies you are going to ask yourself "how did blood get there?"

Hope that helps
The Man

Quote from: mikeysm on May 08, 2024, 04:24:22 PMWho is driving up and who is flying in.

Mike

Driving up with Juan.

At least that's the plan now.

Where do you live Mike?

Quote from: Maxed Out on May 08, 2024, 10:19:35 PMCould be wrong eccentric, or maybe jack tabs need to be bent out a bit more. Also make sure you have the correct screws for your yoke. Fully threaded screws will make shifting to Freespool much tougher as the yoke slides down those screws.

Thats certainly a possibility. I'll have to give the jack a closer look.

Quote from: Lunker Larry on April 30, 2024, 02:09:19 AMWhen I was a kid my dad's hands would swell up from bits of shrapnel that would work their way out. Leftovers from being shot down a couple times.

I Salute your Father Larry.
It's men like him why we are the land of the free and home of the brave!