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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Shimano Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Stan on July 27, 2021, 02:49:10 PM

Title: Charter Special - Stiff Handle
Post by: Stan on July 27, 2021, 02:49:10 PM
I've got a Charter Special TR2000 with one of Alan's frames.  Reel has been working fine until recently when the handle became stiff to turn as I increase the drag.  I've replaced the right side main bearing, but as nothing changes.  As soon as I start applying drag, the handle becomes increasingly hard to turn.

I've reviewed the tutorials and can't quite find an answer to my problem.   Others have had similar solutions and come up with different solutions, but I don't think anyone had this issue with an aluminum Alan frame.  I've disassembled and reassembled several times, but no change..  Where do I start?

Title: Re: Charter Special - Stiff Handle
Post by: alantani on July 27, 2021, 03:15:41 PM
that sounds classic for a corroded right main side plate bearing. 
Title: Re: Charter Special - Stiff Handle
Post by: Stan on July 27, 2021, 04:06:20 PM
Just sent Dawn a note to order three complete bearing kits for my three charter specials!
Title: Re: Charter Special - Stiff Handle
Post by: Stan on August 01, 2021, 03:53:38 PM
So I just replaced all four bearings with new ones from Dawn...and no change.  I see that some other folks have had the same problem, but I can't find resolution!!!
Title: Re: Charter Special - Stiff Handle
Post by: alantani on August 01, 2021, 04:09:54 PM
any chance that you are trying to go past 15 pounds of drag?  how much drag does it take to affect cranking?
Title: Re: Charter Special - Stiff Handle
Post by: Stan on August 01, 2021, 05:12:39 PM
Nope...Happens starting at very light drag settings....Almost as soon as there is any pressure on the drag washer
Title: Re: Charter Special - Stiff Handle
Post by: alantani on August 01, 2021, 05:20:36 PM
what you are describing is classic for a right main side plate (pinion) bearing that is totally seized.  but you replaced it, right?
Title: Re: Charter Special - Stiff Handle
Post by: Stan on August 01, 2021, 06:48:40 PM
Correct....I replaced all bearings.   Reel was working perfectly until last time I used it.  Replacing the bearings made no difference.  It is on one of your frames, with your handle arm and handle. 
Title: Re: Charter Special - Stiff Handle
Post by: alantani on August 01, 2021, 07:09:54 PM
can you send it to me?
Title: Re: Charter Special - Stiff Handle
Post by: Stan on August 01, 2021, 07:23:36 PM
Sure.
Title: Re: Charter Special - Stiff Handle
Post by: alantani on August 01, 2021, 07:29:28 PM
hopefully i can figure it out!   :-\
Title: Re: Charter Special - Stiff Handle
Post by: alantani on August 26, 2021, 12:24:04 AM
Figured it out!!! There were a pair of thrust washers that had to come out. The stock configuration is a pair of thin bellevilles and the thrust washers.  If you use the thick bellevilles,  those thrust washers need to left out so that there is enough room!!! Like you, I had it apart a dozen times before I noticed.  You are also getting a new gear and pinion bearing.