I'm about to score an old Ambassadeur 12 reel on a pretty good deal. When researching the reel it seems that it is basically the same reel as the 8500. In the US it was for a time sold under the name "8600 Striper".
When comparing schematics the only difference I can find is that the 12 has a clicker which the 8500 doesn't.
Am I right when presuming that this was just basically a name change from ABU's part when introducing their IGFA line of 12/20/30 reels in the mid 70's?
Cheers!
/Karl
the ABU 12 is the same size as the ABU 9000 but only as the single speed the 9000 & 9000c are auto two speed reels
This is what I've found out so far
The ABU 12 was a beefed up model based on the design of the beautiful blue non-export Ambassadeur 8500 (USA model 8600 Striper)
http://www.realsreels.com/reels/IGFA/default.htm (http://www.realsreels.com/reels/IGFA/default.htm)
It weighs 510/520g (different sources)
Capacity of 350m of 0,45mm line
The Ambassadeur 9000 weighs in at 410g and holds 250m of 0,50mm line.
There is as you can see a significant weight difference between the 12 and the 9000. Maybe a heavier spool?
/Karl
no sir the spool out of a ABU 12 is the same spool as the 9000 i know this as ive a few Abu 12 & ABU 9000c in my collection
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af48/willybendit/ABU9000creels013.jpg) (http://s992.photobucket.com/user/willybendit/media/ABU9000creels013.jpg.html)
Nice collection! :o
But where, if the numbers are true, does the weight difference come from?
I see in the schematics that they have different part nr (9177 vs 4575) for the spool, they don't look interchangable...
Quote from: Mandelstam on June 04, 2013, 06:08:30 PMNice collection! :o
But where, if the numbers are true, does the weight difference come from?
I see in the schematics that they have different part nr (9177 vs 4575) for the spool, they don't look interchangable...
I believe that the side plates on a 12 are made from a heavier metal (brass maybe.?), and on a 9000 they're aluminium, hence the weight difference.
Quote from: jeff smith on January 07, 2023, 03:46:26 PMQuote from: Mandelstam on June 04, 2013, 06:08:30 PMNice collection! :o
But where, if the numbers are true, does the weight difference come from?
I see in the schematics that they have different part nr (9177 vs 4575) for the spool, they don't look interchangable...
I believe that the side plates on a 12 are made from a heavier metal (brass maybe.?), and on a 9000 they're aluminium, hence the weight difference.
just saw a post alluding to that today....from 2003