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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => D.A.M. Quick => Topic started by: Barishi on January 12, 2023, 12:12:04 PM

Title: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Barishi on January 12, 2023, 12:12:04 PM
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What is this...DAM Quick 550 Tournament Surf Long Cast
How would this even work? I can't imagine the oscillation arm of a 550 would clear half of that spool! If anyone is willing to buy this, can you take it apart to see that oscillation system?

Here's the listing. I can't imagine anyone buying this, but the current bid is 300 euro and its STILL GOING!



 
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: alantani on January 12, 2023, 06:02:13 PM
ok, this is definitely something that i've never seen before!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: jurelometer on January 12, 2023, 06:10:30 PM
Tournament distance casting.  You manually switch between bail positions.  Probably  just the spool/ cap and bail are customized.

Some stuff on the Mitchell 300 tournament model here in posts 24 and 27.

https://alantani.com/index.php?msg=424101 (https://alantani.com/index.php?msg=424101)

-J
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Shellbelly on January 12, 2023, 07:47:47 PM
Early versions of this spool on other reels are sometimes called "wedding cake" spools.  I'm sure Fred will pop up out of the snow pretty soon.
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: foakes on January 12, 2023, 08:06:21 PM
No snow right now, sunshine a bit, 15" of rain since Christmas, some snow but gone now.

Just above us, the snowpack for the Sierra is at 203% of average for this time of year.

Much cooler weather over the next 3 months would be a great help.

Another (2) storms predicted to start later tonight and run through at least next Wednesday or longer.

I have never gotten involved with the tournament distance casting reels and spools.

I do know that both DAM Quick & Mitchell —- plus maybe some other European Reel Makers offered these.

Not of any interest to me —- the reels I work on and build out are hopefully destined for either actual fishing —- or a collectors item.

These are a niche —- and interesting.

Dave is correct on these —- you just manually start the line retrieve at the South level of the spool —- then when full —- switch to the North level to complete the spool fill.

I think using 1-2 lb. test, and a 2-3 ounce weight, and a long rod —- a cast of 500 or 600 yards can be attained.  Just guessing?

Best, Fred

Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Midway Tommy on January 12, 2023, 09:38:17 PM
It's actually a 330, not a 550. Not sure about inards changes to the Dam tournament example but here's a discussion regarding the ABU Garcia tournament reel I'm holding in my avatar.

https://alantani.com/index.php?msg=250610

The spool on my ABU was factory made by ABU, as were the specialty inards.

The spool and drag knob on the Dam were most likely custom made, probably by Bill Burke (RIP).

Actually, the asking price isn't that bad. I've been offered 3X that for mine.
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Shellbelly on January 12, 2023, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 12, 2023, 09:38:17 PMprobably by Bill Burke (RIP).
He did make a spool for this DQ 1001 and the spool shown on this Mitchell 900 is his work.  NDam Quick 1001 with TS.jpg o telling how much of his work is undocumented.
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Barishi on January 13, 2023, 12:49:35 AM
Thanks for the clarification. My impression of long cast reels was that they always used worm oscillation so this was an eye opener. But why would DAM not make a specialised reel body and use a 330 instead as the base? I think Daiwa made a dedicated model for long casting back then
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Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Midway Tommy on January 13, 2023, 04:14:26 AM
Quote from: Barishi on January 13, 2023, 12:49:35 AMThanks for the clarification. My impression of long cast reels was that they always used worm oscillation so this was an eye opener. But why would DAM not make a specialised reel body and use a 330 instead as the base? I think Daiwa made a dedicated model for long casting back then

They were trying to promote their regular stock back then. That was long before Asian made reels were taken seriously. 
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Walter61 on January 14, 2023, 08:25:32 AM
Yes, the DAM Quick 330 was available with two tournament spools at the end of the 60s.
But with this one, the counterweight to the line guide is wrong.

(https://i.ibb.co/jhQTJsZ/P1180169.jpg) (https://ibb.co/31j7RQY)

I can't say exactly whether the coil is original, the coil would have to be in front of me so I can measure it.

greeting Walter
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Barishi on January 14, 2023, 11:54:33 AM
Quote from: Walter61 on January 14, 2023, 08:25:32 AMYes, the DAM Quick 330 was available with two tournament spools at the end of the 60s.
But with this one, the counterweight to the line guide is wrong.

(https://i.ibb.co/jhQTJsZ/P1180169.jpg) (https://ibb.co/31j7RQY)

I can't say exactly whether the coil is original, the coil would have to be in front of me so I can measure it.

greeting Walter

I get the massive spool's purpose now but why is there also another huge tumour where the drag knob should be? I assume that huge spool is hollow inside and the drag washers go there.
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Walter61 on January 14, 2023, 01:00:38 PM
There are no brake discs, the spool is only for tournament sports, for example long-distance casting.
The red cap houses the push button device.

greeting Walter
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Barishi on January 14, 2023, 01:59:41 PM
Quote from: Walter61 on January 14, 2023, 01:00:38 PMThere are no brake discs, the spool is only for tournament sports, for example long-distance casting.
The red cap houses the push button device.

greeting Walter

Is that device for easy spool changing?
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Walter61 on January 14, 2023, 03:06:33 PM
Quote from: Barishi on January 14, 2023, 01:59:41 PM
Quote from: Walter61 on January 14, 2023, 01:00:38 PMThere are no brake discs, the spool is only for tournament sports, for example long-distance casting.
The red cap houses the push button device.

greeting Walter

Is that device for easy spool changing?

Yes, push button release
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Midway Tommy on January 14, 2023, 04:50:42 PM
I'll be darned. I didn't realize Dam made a tournament version. Which catalog was that advertised in?
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Walter61 on January 14, 2023, 05:48:28 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 14, 2023, 04:50:42 PMI'll be darned. I didn't realize Dam made a tournament version. Which catalog was that advertised in?

DAM catalog 1968, 1969 and 1970.

And there was a third type of reel for the DAM 330/285, the Rollex.
(https://i.ibb.co/jf8dwtG/P1180171.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mTRmypt)
left: normal spool, center: casting/tournament spool, rigth: Rollex

greeting Walter

Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Barishi on January 15, 2023, 05:55:10 AM
Quote from: Walter61 on January 14, 2023, 05:48:28 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 14, 2023, 04:50:42 PMI'll be darned. I didn't realize Dam made a tournament version. Which catalog was that advertised in?

DAM catalog 1968, 1969 and 1970.

And there was a third type of reel for the DAM 330/285, the Rollex.
(https://i.ibb.co/jf8dwtG/P1180171.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mTRmypt)
left: normal spool, center: casting/tournament spool, rigth: Rollex

greeting Walter



Was there no demand by surfcasters for long casting spinning reels back then? Because where I live today everyone is rocking a tall spool surf reel.
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: oldmanjoe on January 15, 2023, 03:43:12 PM
   That Rollex spool looks interesting .     Is it aluminum spool with a take apart drag nut for servicing ?
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: foakes on January 15, 2023, 07:28:54 PM
Here are some closeups of a 339.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Bill B on January 16, 2023, 04:36:06 AM
All I can say is wow! 
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Walter61 on January 16, 2023, 06:32:08 AM
Quote from: foakes on January 15, 2023, 07:28:54 PMHere are some closeups of a 339.

Best, Fred

Super Fred.
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Walter61 on January 16, 2023, 06:33:14 AM
Quote from: oldmanjoe on January 15, 2023, 03:43:12 PMThat Rollex spool looks interesting .     Is it aluminum spool with a take apart drag nut for servicing ?

No is a plastic spool like the normal spool of DAM 330.
It has two brakes (red and silver nut), similar to a figthing drag or freewheel brake.

Best Walter
Title: Re: German Ebay Monstrosity
Post by: Barishi on January 16, 2023, 11:12:36 AM
How did they select what model of reel to build the long spool on?

Was there any demand for a long spool spinning reel for regular surf fishing back then? If the reel had a deeper spool of the same height like some of the newer surfcasting reels.