Anyone have a 4/0 steel main gear ? ... Jeff
I have one that came out of one of my pro gears, I believe it's steel? I'll have to clean it and let you know...
It looks like steel to me and I just read that they came with steel gears, 4:1 ratio, I'll send you one if you need it, I have three of them?
Darin, stock 113h gears are 3.25/1 ratio
Aftermarket gear sets are 4/1
Yup it's 3.25:1 steel gear I'm after. This is a very nice ratio for these reels... Jeff
Jeff,
I think I have one, let me check my box of spare parts if its a Steel one and not the normal one, I will let you know in few hours
if Its the one you want, its yours N/C.
Alex thanks for checking... Jeff
Just to be clear...113 or 113H?
Quote from: Bryan Young on October 25, 2018, 01:03:21 AM
Just to be clear...113 or 113H?
Considering he just built a T4N1 kit (113HXN) pretty much he's looking for a steel main gear for that reel.
Yup
I can't tell you how much I want to build a slow T4NX (Grouper narrow?) Just to watch everyone's head explode. I know the pinion won't fit, but what fun!
Ron
Quote from: Rivverrat on October 25, 2018, 01:00:43 AM
Alex thanks for checking... Jeff
Lucky guy Sr. "Rata de Río"
I found it, let me know if you need the pinion too or just the main gear.
PM me your addy compadre
What do you need for both I don't want to separate a main gear & pinion that have been used together... Jeff
Quote from: Rivverrat on October 25, 2018, 05:53:40 AM
What do you need for both .... Jeff
Just your address amigo.
And later you posting a Picture of you with a monster Catfish on the T4NX
Quote from: steelfish on October 25, 2018, 06:03:53 AM
Quote from: Rivverrat on October 25, 2018, 05:53:40 AM
What do you need for both .... Jeff
Just your address amigo.
And later you posting a Picture of you with a monster Catfish on the T4NX
All righty I can do that... Jeff
That T4NX has lunker catfish written all over it. You fellers have me thinking...sometimes a bad situation...HA! I agree with Jeff, the 3.25:1 gear ratio seems perfect for catfishing, it's one of the reasons I like 259s, 99s, and Surfmaster 250s so much. I checked for that gear Jeff, but I only had bronze. Good going Alex! 8)
Thanks for helping out, Alex...
Best,
Fred
Quote from: mo65 on October 25, 2018, 02:37:52 PM
That T4NX has lunker catfish written all over it. ........ I agree with Jeff, the 3.25:1 gear ratio seems perfect for catfishing
you know Mo, Jeff and I have kind of similiar needs but he's after monster Catfish in freshwater while I am after saltwater shallow water groupers, we need strong small reels that can use 80 or 100lb braid and no need for tons of miles of line capacity, just strong small reel for brute short fights, that said, my T4NX is using a 3.25:1 old Steel main gear too for cranking power, I have some 4:1 newell gears on hand but prefered to use the stock ratio, mine is using a Keta octagon insert, It still need few more SS upgrades but those will come later.
Quote from: mo65 on October 25, 2018, 02:37:52 PM
That T4NX has lunker catfish written all over it. You fellers have me thinking...sometimes a bad situation...HA! I agree with Jeff, the 3.25:1 gear ratio seems perfect for catfishing, it's one of the reasons I like 259s, 99s, and Surfmaster 250s so much. I checked for that gear Jeff, but I only had bronze. Good going Alex! 8)
Mo, thanks for checking for that gear. They really are getting very hard to find. The steel gear in my silver & red T4XN is anew steel gear Lee told me about more than year ago. Bought off the auction site. At that time I thought to myself " you know I might use that sometime" not even owning a 113H at the time.
Fellas we need to see about some stainless gears for the 4/0 in this 3.25:1 ratio. You can reasonably enough turn the handle with drag at 25 lbs. Turning the handle on theses skinny reels is probably doable for most even with drag set at 30. This is a big deal. Not to mention it saves a lot of wear & tear on the reel over time vs turning the handle with a 4:1 gear set.
Jeff, now you have me on a search for the elusive 3.25 gear n pinion combo, down the rabbit hole I go . . .
Does anyone know when they stopped putting the steel main gear in the 113h? Wondering how to find a 4/0 with the steel gear? Thanks!
I've found that the early 113h's with outside accessable drags have the steel main gears if nobody has been into them & switched out the gears. If they still have the 3 asbestos drag washers they are usually original. Rudy
Quote from: RowdyW on November 01, 2018, 03:38:01 AM
I've found that the early 113h's with outside accessable drags have the steel main gears if nobody has been into them & switched out the gears. If they still have the 3 asbestos drag washers they are usually original. Rudy
Thank you, Rudy, great info! Darin
Daron, Rudy is right on about the 113h early type sideplate in red/maroon has what you wanted, a matching set of steel gears ⚙️ in the 3.31 gr.
This is my favorite for my type of fish up north, with the insert you can't go wrong. Quite common to find a usable reel, and you could put your brass gear back in with the cf washers your using now, and peddle it to get your money back quite easily. The gears are very strong 💪.
Good luck fishing 🎣.
Quote from: gstours on November 02, 2018, 02:42:32 PM
Daron, Rudy is right on about the 113h early type sideplate in red/maroon has what you wanted, a matching set of steel gears ⚙️ in the 3.31 gr.
This is my favorite for my type of fish up north, with the insert you can't go wrong. Quite common to find a usable reel, and you could put your brass gear back in with the cf washers your using now, and peddle it to get your money back quite easily. The gears are very strong 💪.
Good luck fishing 🎣.
I'm on the hunt... but need full internals for two tiburon T4NI kits and a yts kit from Maxed Out, I have two insert kits from Adam and will get another from PC, this is fun!
you think this one has it? I can get it dirt cheap???
Photos don't show if it is outside accessable drags. Need a photo behind the handle.
non drive sideplate is from a newer reel on the one pictured.
I think they all have a Sailfish on the left plate. Just the lettering is in slightly different locations.
if you don't mind can someone post a pic of what I need to look for under the star, I'd love to know, thank you!!!
Darin, just make sure you steer clear buying one from these knowledgeable guys ;) :)
Darin, the spacer sleeve is not the usual tubular type sleeve. It is a large chrome plated piece the same width as a drag washer. If you see it, it will look like a hat. That's why it is refered to as a tophat.
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 02, 2018, 06:38:26 PM
Darin, just make sure you steer clear buying one from these knowledgeable guys ;) :)
Now Sal, do you think any of the members are that underhanded?? ::) ::) ;D
Thanks, Rudy, I know what you're talking about, I will look for that now, I appreciate your help buddy! Darin
Quote from: Darin Crofton on November 02, 2018, 06:33:56 PMif you don't mind can someone post a pic of what I need to look for under the star, I'd love to know, thank you!!!
I have the steel-geared 113h 3.25/1. Here's what the stack looks like. The original fiber washers are super thick!
Quote from: nelz on November 02, 2018, 07:17:04 PM
Quote from: Darin Crofton on November 02, 2018, 06:33:56 PMif you don't mind can someone post a pic of what I need to look for under the star, I'd love to know, thank you!!!
I have the steel-geared 113h 3.25/1. Here's what the stack looks like. The original fiber washers are super thick!
Thank you, that's very helpful, you guys rock!!! Darin
These might help
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/OLD%2040_zps0r4x2r1f_1.jpg)
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/P1050557_zps0x7c8h9y.jpg)
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/lefttib_zpsbc3b1705.jpg)
The tailplates here both are off reels that came with steel gears and open access drag in head plate.
Quote from: basto on November 02, 2018, 09:16:37 PM
These might help
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/OLD%2040_zps0r4x2r1f_1.jpg)
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/P1050557_zps0x7c8h9y.jpg)
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/lefttib_zpsbc3b1705.jpg)
The tailplates here both are off reels that came with steel gears and open access drag in head plate.
very helpful, thank you!!!
Basto, that first pic is a first edition 113h tail plate...the only 113h that had a boat in the picture plate
Darin, if you do get a donor with exposed drags, you'll need to purchase a spacer sleeve if converting to Cortez plates, cause the top hat will not be needed for that build
Quote from: Maxed Out on November 02, 2018, 09:35:28 PM
Basto, that first pic is a first edition 113h tail plate...the only 113h that had a boat in the picture plate
That's nice to know. I have kept that reel in stock form with original drag which I think are asbestos washers.
thanks
Greg