im trying to reserve a spot for a deep sea charter that i might try to go on over the winter break
the company asked me where on the boat i wanted to reserve my spot and i didnt really know where a good place would be. the boat is a catamaran and the lay out is made lie this http://www.galvestonpartyboatsinc.com/layouts/newbuccaneer-layout.pdf
idk where the anchor get let out..... and i am told that catamarans are mroe stable on the sides? in that true, i wanna try to get a spot with the least amount of cramming, like i want a little room to move around, would that be near the corners?
doesn't matter to me. i can usually sleep anywhere. i just need earplugs. the bow can be pretty bouncy in rough seas, the stern is noisy because of the engine. go for the middle!
oops, you mean for fishing.....
If they anchor, most people want the stern. On those boats, the spaces are all the same size, so that's not really a factor. Are you on a 12hr or a 30hr and which boat, the New Buccaneer or the Cavalier? Unless you are drift fishing, the spot doesn't really matter. BTW, I've fished the New Bucc since 1974 when it was new. Not so much now but a lot back then.
Anytime I stake my claim on a boat, and I do that for a living, I ask two questions, where is the head and where is the food. I'm guessing the doors get you in, I'd pick a spot between the door and the bait tank on the side that has the head.
Ron
Quote from: noyb72 on December 13, 2013, 07:05:01 AM
Anytime I stake my claim on a boat, and I do that for a living, I ask two questions, where is the head and where is the food. I'm guessing the doors get you in, I'd pick a spot between the door and the bait tank on the side that has the head.
Ron
Wow, it's good to have a reply from someone with this kind of experience. I never would have thought of that.
I've never been on a cat before so I'll tell you where I like on a regular boat. First is the intention to be bait fishing? Jigging? If bait fishing at anchor in the stern. Usually the chum is thrown at midship which will give you an advantage of having your hooked bait in the slick. If jigging and drifting I opt for the pointy end of the boat. The reasoning if there is a move to a different spot or to follow fish you can in most instances switch sides as the capt. Slides up on the fish. Hope this helps? What you need to do is ask questions first.
Bob
This is a Gulf of Mexico bottom fishing snapper boat. No chum, no bait well, though they do have a live well. On 12hr trips, the boat anchors over the spot. No drifting etc. Unless you are using a drift line for kings (probably not in winter), you don't need the stern. 30hr trips are tuna trips and you can fish anywhere, depending if you are jigging, popping or chunking. Bottom fishing, the spot really doesn't matter. Sometimes you are over the spot, sometimes not. There are benches down the sides, but not right across the stern (43-58) or at the bow (probably the first 10 spots on each side), in case you want to sit down while fishing, though you will have to get up when ever anyone walks down the side. BTW, the head is toward the starboard bow but the closest door is amidships.. The galley is toward the stern, with a door on either side.
you want to be on the stern, as close to spot number 100 as possible. The new buc or caviler will be booked solid and with one hundred lines on anchor the stern will be the best spot.
Allan
Seekfishing
The part of the boat that is above water ;) ;D
Quote from: Seek1 on December 14, 2013, 03:18:32 PM
you want to be on the stern, as close to spot number 100 as possible. The new buc or caviler will be booked solid and with one hundred lines on anchor the stern will be the best spot.
Allan
Seekfishing
Spot 100 is in the bow, next to the anchor
Quote from: day0ne on December 13, 2013, 07:00:24 AM
If they anchor, most people want the stern. On those boats, the spaces are all the same size, so that's not really a factor. Are you on a 12hr or a 30hr and which boat, the New Buccaneer or the Cavalier? Unless you are drift fishing, the spot doesn't really matter. BTW, I've fished the New Bucc since 1974 when it was new. Not so much now but a lot back then.
THANKS , do you remeber by anychance where the bait tank will be???
i'm suprised by all the responses, chances are there will be alittle wind, but im not too worried about the weather, i like to stand up and fish, maybe superstition, but i tend to get a better bite standing up. apreciate the clarifications, idk if it will be a 30hr or 12 hr, btw have anyof yall notices significant stabitity differences in cataramans and regular boats? ill probably stay indoors going in and going out, but just curious, ive been on regular boats and have created my own chum if u know what i mean
Quote from: pcde123 on December 15, 2013, 04:55:04 AM
[ill probably stay indoors going in and going out, but just curious, ive been on regular boats and have created my own chum if u know what i mean
I won't go on a boat without a scopolamine transdermal patch. Call your doctor for a prescription. I did not fish from a boat for years until a doctor recommended that I try the patch. It opened the whole boating thing for me. Just keep yourself hydrated while using the patch and you will
not get sick. Dominick
Quote from: pcde123 on December 15, 2013, 04:55:04 AM
Quote from: day0ne on December 13, 2013, 07:00:24 AM
If they anchor, most people want the stern. On those boats, the spaces are all the same size, so that's not really a factor. Are you on a 12hr or a 30hr and which boat, the New Buccaneer or the Cavalier? Unless you are drift fishing, the spot doesn't really matter. BTW, I've fished the New Bucc since 1974 when it was new. Not so much now but a lot back then.
THANKS , do you remeber by anychance where the bait tank will be???
i'm suprised by all the responses, chances are there will be alittle wind, but im not too worried about the weather, i like to stand up and fish, maybe superstition, but i tend to get a better bite standing up. apreciate the clarifications, idk if it will be a 30hr or 12 hr, btw have anyof yall notices significant stabitity differences in cataramans and regular boats? ill probably stay indoors going in and going out, but just curious, ive been on regular boats and have created my own chum if u know what i mean
They don't really have a bait tank like the SoCal boats do, but there is a very nice live well dead center at the stern. One point, you have to bring any live bait, as they don't furnish it and any bait that goes in the live well becomes community property, if I'm not mistaken. Bait trays completely circle the boat and the crew keeps them full of squid. As far as stability, the cats don't roll like the mono hulls, so are as a rule, more stable at rest. The New Bucc is 34 feet wide. The 30hr trips are specialized, low load, over night trips and cost like 3 times as much. If they are asking where you want to fish, it is probably a 12hr.
Weather on anchor or adrift, I prefer to have the wind in my face. It keeps my line from going under the boat... :o
alright ill probablt try cast netting with my friend, try to bring in as much bait as we can, but dang 100 people.....poeple are gonna suck the live bait dry in minutes, oh well , i like castnetting, can i bring in dead bait??? i know that you tend to catch vermillion snapper and since those are game fish you cant use them as bait....there awesome bait tho, ive left my rod sitting out with a vermillion on it accidently and ended up catching an amber jack
I like the bow for jigging if you are drifting. The reason is most of the time the captain is metering fish and calculating his drift based on the metering and the current. Most sonar is located toward the bow so it is likely that you will drift over teh most productive part of the spot. That is how I usually rockfished in Southern California. If you are in shallow enough water and you are anchoring up then it doesn't matter.
Transdermal patch? I thought you were a tough guy Dominick! >:(
We don't need no stinking patches! ;)
before I went in the Navy, an Uncle of mine told me to always keep something on your stomach and you won't get seasick.
It worked for me. I have never been seasick. I was on a Destroyer, so it got pretty rough. I remember one morning putting on my shoes, I lifted a foot while sitting in a chair and the Ship went up a big roller. I took off like a bowling ball and crashed into a bunch of guys watching TV. ::)
Quote from: Shark Hunter on December 18, 2013, 11:05:49 PM
Transdermal patch? I thought you were a tough guy Dominick! >:(
We don't need no stinking patches! ;)
Daron: I'm a wimp when it comes to motion sickness. I can't handle a boat without the patch. Dominick
Quote from: Shark Hunter on December 18, 2013, 11:05:49 PM
Transdermal patch? I thought you were a tough guy Dominick! >:(
We don't need no stinking patches! ;)
before I went in the Navy, an Uncle of mine told me to always keep something on your stomach and you won't get seasick.
It worked for me. I have never been seasick. I was on a Destroyer, so it got pretty rough. I remember one morning putting on my shoes, I lifted a foot while sitting in a chair and the Ship went up a big roller. I took off like a bowling ball and crashed into a bunch of guys watching TV. ::)
That always sucks. It really sucks when you crash into somebody with a cup of coffee and he decides to christen you with boiling joe!
Ron
Motion sickness is awful. I thought I was immune, until I made the following combination of bad decisions:
1. worked very late, got up early very early and showed up at the dock with three hours sleep.
2. didn't eat breakfast (I normally always do).
3. decided since I was hungry, I would share some greasy cold fried chicken with one of the other fishermen.
When we went out Belmar inlet I could hear the prop race as the boat got airborne. That's not such a big deal if you're used to fast outboard boats, but we were in a single screw, diesel powered wood-hulled trawler. It was pretty snotty. Then we proceeded to troll for several hours, parallel with the beach.
I wasn't feeling very good, but I've never been seasick, so I was ok. That is, until I heard the fellow that brought the chicken. He was in the head for hours making noises like he was trying to vomit up his appendix. I finally figured that I might not feel as bad if I went ahead and vomited. Once that was over with, I felt better. In addition, the seas were laying down, plus we finally located fish and started slinging jigs. Only problem was, I was too weak to stand. I could sit on the motor box, but I couldn't get the diamond jig moving fast enough to get a hit. I was done in.
The next day I realized that I had pulled a muscle in my ribs when I vomited. I spent the subsequent three days laying in bed trying not to move my ribcage, which is only possible if you stop breathing.
I never USED to get seasick. At about age 60 (probably when I had to start medications: blood pressure and cholesterol), I started getting seasick in rough seas. :-\ The patch is the answer--side effect for me is "dry mouth". In calmer seas, I have no motion problems so Baja fishing is fun. ;)
TomT
Quote from: TomT on December 19, 2013, 04:21:31 AM
I never USED to get seasick. At about age 60 (probably when I had to start medications: blood pressure and cholesterol), I started getting seasick in rough seas. :-\ The patch is the answer--side effect for me is "dry mouth". In calmer seas, I have no motion problems so Baja fishing is fun. ;)
TomT
Tom T I get the dry mouth syndrome but it is better than getting sick. I don't know if this is true but an older guy told me the same thing at around age 60 he started getting seasick. His doctor told him that there are cilia in the ear canal that lay down as we age. Those cilia would keep one from getting sick. I don't know if this is true or not but I got seasick from when I was a kid. Yea Baja. I love it down there. Dominick
The last time I got sea sick was passing the Columbia River Bar in December on a surfaced submarine. Staring out the periscope for to long got to me. :(
Ron
I prefer to be off any boat and on dry land.
Quote from: Makule on December 20, 2013, 02:00:42 AM
I prefer to be off any boat and on dry land.
Wimp!!! ;D
I've got a World Cat and the best place for stability is most certainly at the stern.... If I were fishing a drift I'd be at the stern (less line tangles) ...if I was anchored I'd be at the stern (usually the transducer is in the rear). Only drawback is the diesel (sulfur dioxide) which is known to cause nausea. If you don't mind suckin' up the exhaust ...Go to the stern!
Have a safe/ successful trip!
Dom
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 20, 2013, 02:11:51 AM
Quote from: Makule on December 20, 2013, 02:00:42 AM
I prefer to be off any boat and on dry land.
Wimp!!! ;D
I can't fault you for that. Boats can be uncomfortable, dangerous places.
As for me, I find that being out of sight of land is like therapy.
Quote from: floating doc on December 20, 2013, 03:13:01 AM
As for me, I find that being out of sight of land is like therapy.
There is no place like home...there is no place like home.
Ron
Really I want to be in the spot that's catching fish :o ;D
First off I just want to be on a boat for fishing purposes only. While fishing I normally fish the starboard rear corner. I have read a lot of comments about sea sickness and I have never understood it much. I think people think themselves sick most of the time but for me it is a joy to be on the boat so how can one possibly get sick out in nature catching fish on a beautiful ocean. I have had guys chumming right next to me and I keep my line maneuvered in that slick to catch more fish. ;D
For the type of fishing we do in Jersey, I've noticed that most of the fish get caught on the shaded side of my boat. :-\. That's where my rod would be ;D
Quote from: Newell Nut on December 20, 2013, 11:46:22 AM
First off I just want to be on a boat for fishing purposes only. While fishing I normally fish the starboard rear corner. I have read a lot of comments about sea sickness and I have never understood it much. I think people think themselves sick most of the time but for me it is a joy to be on the boat so how can one possibly get sick out in nature catching fish on a beautiful ocean. I have had guys chumming right next to me and I keep my line maneuvered in that slick to catch more fish. ;D
I'm sure we ALL have victory at sea stories. The fact is under the right conditions we can all get a little " mal de mare" . I've had the pleasure of fishing in the NE canyons in November in 10' to 14' seas. You could almost hear the swells coming! No problems with getting sick. Also been out in very nice conditions and couldn't wait to get back to the dock. Point being...what ever works for you is great, just go fish!
Quote from: BMITCH on December 20, 2013, 11:33:10 AM
Really I want to be in the spot that's catching fish :o ;D
That is the spot next to me. The person in that spot always catches fish. I don't but they do.
Quote from: mrbrklyn on December 20, 2013, 01:23:09 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 20, 2013, 11:57:32 AM
For the type of fishing we do in Jersey, I've noticed that most of the fish get caught on the shaded side of my boat. :-\. That's where my rod would be ;D
maybe not this month. When it is 19 degrees, being on the sunny side of the boat is a good thing.
;D ;D...right you are ;)
Bob, I've been out to the canyons a couple of times. The last time we got caught in 16'swells, not fun, but I never got sick. :-\
Well I prefer to be on the boat, and I will catch fish. Never lock yourself into a spot and be patient. If you are on a boat with googans your just burnin time but if you have a boat full of experienced fisherman you will find that they all work together to catch fish. They hookup and move with the fish so make your move ,hookup and move along. On a big fish you wont be in that spot too long.
I'm with saltydog on this one. If you have experienced fisher persons there usually isnt much of an issue as far as rail position is concerned.